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October 5, 2017, 12:45 PM | #1 |
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Guns purchase out of state . . . ?
In IL I can purchase a long gun outside of the state and bring it back in so long as the seller has followed all the IL rules including the federal check and the waiting period, but if I buy a hand gun, out of state, the seller has to ship it to an IL FFL before I can take possession.
Are there states wherein one can buy a long gun or hand gun, out of state, and walk out with it that day? In other words if I lived in Texas could I buy a gun in Alaska and take it with me that day? Life is good. Prof Young |
October 5, 2017, 12:50 PM | #2 |
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No on handguns; all of those go through the transfer process at your homestate FFL. Most states allow you to take the longgun with you.
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The federal law has been in effect for almost 50 years. It was enacted by the Gun Control Act of 1968. Nonetheless, a lot of people appear not to be aware of it.
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October 7, 2017, 07:49 AM | #4 |
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You can with long guns, but not with hand guns.
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October 7, 2017, 08:21 PM | #5 |
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Thanks . . .
Frank:
Hey thanks so much. Truly helpful info. Life is good. Prof Young |
October 10, 2017, 02:30 PM | #6 |
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Only exception is a C&R qualified handgun if you have a C&R license.
I did go through something interesting. I sold a friend a Glock 23 when we both lived in AZ. He moved to AL, I moved to SC. Couple of years ago i was visiting him, and he wanted to know if I was interested in buying it back (I wasn't, especially since he beat the hell out of it and even had rust on it). I still had my original purchase receipt for it. Probably not legal in the spirit of the law, but I could have said he had it as a long term loan, and paid me a deposit for it. No court would probably convict me..
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That would be a clear violation of federal law making both you and your buddy eligible for up to five years in federal prison and a lifetime loss of gun rights. As to your store, there's pretty much no chance that a federal prosecutor/grand jury/trial jury/judge is going to buy such an obviously contrived, self-serving pile of offal.
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FWIW a rifle and shotgun are each (partially) defined in 18 USC § 921 as "...a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder...," so a shoulder stock must be present for the weapon to qualify as such—hence the restriction on stripped frames and receivers. (The OP's post only addresses long guns and handguns, but I find it helpful to explain this little caveat, as many folks seem unaware of it. ) Quote:
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October 10, 2017, 08:11 PM | #9 |
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Frank, time for your meds. This was pure speculation and I do not appreciate you getting personal.
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October 10, 2017, 08:23 PM | #10 |
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That was NOT a personal insult, hagar. That was Frank telling you the reality of your speculation. Don't like people being being frank with you (pun intended, by the way)? Don't post idiocy.
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October 11, 2017, 12:31 PM | #12 |
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^^^ That would not be using private ground transportation.
Also, only an FFL can lawfully mail handguns or Other Firearms.* Non-licensed individuals can only use the U.S. mail to send non-NFA long guns. [*EDIT TO ADD: A narrowly defined list of Authorized Persons may also use the U.S. mail to send and receive such firearms, but—broadly speaking—this list only includes active-duty LE and military on official business; ordinary citizens need not apply. Refer to the "How to ship firearms" sticky for more precise info.]
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There is an express exception for a long gun obtained from an FFL as permitted under 18 USC 922(b)(3).
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October 11, 2017, 12:50 PM | #14 |
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Of course, but he wuldn't have possession of a handgun from out of state. I thought we were talking about someone buying a gun out of state and taking it with him - that only happens with a longgun, so by that conclusion, I went with the fact that he had a longgun and to get it home from Alaska, he COULD mail that to himself - correct?
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When legal issues are involved it's important to be both precise and complete.
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