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Old March 24, 2021, 05:51 PM   #1
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Sight for HiPoint 9MM Carbine?

I got this just recently and it came without a sight of any type. What would be a good reasonably priced sight to get for it?
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Old March 24, 2021, 07:41 PM   #2
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When you say "sight" are you referring to iron sights, red dot sights, or a magnified scope?

I don't own a Hi-Point Carbine, but when I've handled one, I liked the sight picture using the factory sights. You could maybe order those directly from Hi-Point.

For red dots, I've got a HoloSun that might work well for the Hi-Point. I want to say it was it was around $140, but I got it closer to $120 on sale. A lot of people like the Bushnell TRS-25 for a bit less $$$.

For a scope, you probably wouldn't go with real high magnification for a 9mm carbine, but something like a Leupold 1.5-4x20 is nice if you want some magnification. Unfortunately, the prices are MUCH higher than they were a year ago... Makes me wonder if those are in short supply (just like guns and ammo) and some price gouging is going on.
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Old March 25, 2021, 05:01 AM   #3
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I would want either laser sights or a scope. I have a scope on an old hunting rifle that I may try. I know absolutely nothing about red dot (laser) sights except that they are expensive. Will they work outside and at distances? I am not far from a gun range that I plan on using.
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Old March 25, 2021, 05:23 AM   #4
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Go to Amazon for a cheap Red Dot and have a ball with your HP.
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Old March 25, 2021, 07:48 AM   #5
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I will be going to a gun show this weekend. Would any red dots be overpriced? What key features should I look for? As I mentioned before I know nothing about red dots.

The scope I have on my old rifle is a 4 x 32 Bushnell Sportview. It may be worth trying out.

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Old March 25, 2021, 08:35 AM   #6
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red dots are designed for closer ranges
you shoot both eyes open, quick and easy to use
you may have to option of dot colors, usually red or green. go red, better for low light.
check battery type. AA or cr123 is ok, I try to stay away from the watch battery types
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Old March 25, 2021, 11:17 AM   #7
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Laser sight is not a Red Dot.

A rough/imperfect explanation of the difference:
A laser sight projects a red/green light/"dot" on your target.
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A Red Dot projects a red/green light on the lens of the sight itself.

That laser is hard to spot when it's projected on its target unless you have something else that guides your eyes to your target.
vs.
The red dot is in your sight plane attached to your weapon and should point naturally onto your target.

My recomendation is get a red dot sight, not a laser sight.

As far as buying either, you will not likely get a good price or good selection at a gun show given the current market realities. I also wouldn't buy the cheapest red dot on Amazon. Bushnell has some less expensive models (less than $100), Holosun has kind of set the standard for the "budget" red dots under $400. Even if you buy another brand, like something from Primary Arms, it would probably have come out of a Holosun factory.

As far as your rifle not having any sights, contact HiPoint and they'll send you a set of iron sights, most likely free. For as much grief as people give HiPoint, their customer service is excellent.
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Old March 25, 2021, 02:28 PM   #8
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I bought a 2 moa red dot off of Amazon from a company called Feyachi. It was around $50 and works well on a 5.56 carbine. It worked so well, I bought a second one and mounted it to my Ruger 22/45. I can easily hit out to 100 yards with either one. Stay away from their back-up irons, though. I just tried a set on a 22 build and they were bad.
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Old March 25, 2021, 03:43 PM   #9
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I bought a 2 moa red dot off of Amazon from a company called Feyachi. It was around $50 and works well on a 5.56 carbine. It worked so well, I bought a second one and mounted it to my Ruger 22/45. I can easily hit out to 100 yards with either one. Stay away from their back-up irons, though. I just tried a set on a 22 build and they were bad.
This may be just what I want. I am looking for a Ruger 10/22 also. I have it in my shopping cart. What are "back-up irons"? I will have free use of a gun range about 5 miles away once I get into the new house. Also what does 2 moa and 3 moa mean? A Bushnell model says 3 moa.
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Old March 25, 2021, 05:02 PM   #10
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Back-up irons (sights) are the fold down variety that mount on the pic rail. They fold down to allow for optics and are used as back-up in case the optic fails. A popular example would be Magpul Back Up Iron Sights.

MOA is Minutes of Angle. You can look that one up. As far as the MOA dot.......a 2 moa dot covers a 2inch area of your target at 100 yards. A 3moa dot covers 3". A smaller dot is more precise, a bigger dot is easier to see.

@100yards, 1"=1 moa
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Old March 25, 2021, 07:54 PM   #11
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Back-up irons (sights) are the fold down variety that mount on the pic rail. They fold down to allow for optics and are used as back-up in case the optic fails. A popular example would be Magpul Back Up Iron Sights.

MOA is Minutes of Angle. You can look that one up. As far as the MOA dot.......a 2 moa dot covers a 2inch area of your target at 100 yards. A 3moa dot covers 3". A smaller dot is more precise, a bigger dot is easier to see.

@100yards, 1"=1 moa
Thank you! By you explanation for a person with diminishing eyesight the 3moa would be better for me. Is this correct? This is why I don't want iron sights.
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Old March 25, 2021, 08:57 PM   #12
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A bigger dot would be easier to see. Keep in mind that these red dot sights do not offer any magnification. You put the dot where you want your bullet to impact. Below are some pictures of mine.
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Old March 25, 2021, 09:03 PM   #13
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This picture shows my buis(back up iron sight) behind the red dot. It is folded flat, but when up, the front and rear sights line up with the dot. If the dot fails or the battery dies, I can still see my iron sights through it.
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Old March 26, 2021, 01:45 AM   #14
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The Sig Romeo5 or the Holosun 403B are both excellent red dots with 50,000 hours of battery life and a shake awake feature. I have the Holosun. They run around 125.00.

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I'm using a SIG Romeo MSR 2 MOA red dot, I bought an open box display model pretty cheap. However, the red dot didn't turn on when it arrived even after trying a new battery. Called SIG and sent it in for warranty, they sent me back a brand new MSR.

So about all I can tell you is they stand behind the product, and I can't see the dot until I set it on 5 and I get too much flare from 8-10 settings to be useful. I haven't tried it in any low light situations, and it has two setting compatible for night vision. I need to go sight it in on my .300 BLK pistol.
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Old March 28, 2021, 06:48 PM   #16
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I learned something while at a local gun show. I will need a riser for using a sight. This was the first time I was able to look through various laser sights. My brother bought him a new laser sight, so he will give me his old ones to see what I like or don't like.
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Old March 30, 2021, 12:47 PM   #17
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Needing a riser depends on the application. On my AR, I have the red dot on a riser so it co-witnesses with my iron sights. On my pistol, it is mounted directly to the rail on top. On the pistol, I don't need or want, nor is it possible, to mount the red dot so it co-witnesses.

Edit to add: the Feyachi red dot that I referenced is available with or without a riser. The price difference is $5-$10. I bought one of each. Also, not suggesting this red dot is battle worthy or anything, but it has worked well for my applications.
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Old March 30, 2021, 03:38 PM   #18
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I don't know what type of rail I have on the HiPoint. It is neither a Weaver or Picatinny type. My brother keeps telling me anything will fit on it whether it is for a Weaver or Picatinny rails.
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Old March 30, 2021, 08:08 PM   #19
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It should have a pic rail.
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Old March 31, 2021, 01:18 AM   #20
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HI Point

The HiPoint carbines are not necessarily known for their accuracy and scoping one with a conventional telescopic sight is overkill..........the plastic scope rail works against really good accuracy too. They also operate with a bang slam action that will beat a cheap telescope type sight like a budget 4x32 to pieces in short order.

For what the HiPoint offers, a cheap red dot scope like the Bushell TR-25, or the Primary Arms equivialent, at $100 bucks or so, will likely be ideal. I bet HiPoint would sell you the original iron/peep sights if you wanna go that route.
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What is the diffrence between all of these kinds of sights?
Iron sights are mechanical sights made of a front and rear sight that must be aligned to the same sight picture every time for aiming.

A red dot sight uses an LED or holograph to project a red dot (or a more complicated reticle) through the lens of the sight into the target. Once zeroed, wherever the dot is seen is where the bullet will go (leaving out a lot of complicated nuance for the sake of understanding).

A scope is a glass reticle with an etched aiming point. They are typically magnified to zoom in the user's view but may be true one power scopes (no magnification) as well.

There are many variations even within each of those types but that's the most basic version of it.
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