glock 17 vs 19 size? quick question

keithdog · October 8, 2017, 07:37 PM

Hello, I am posting this on my fathers account, as I have occasionally done. Anyway, I cannot find an answer online, and short of going to the store and holding them, this is a quick easy way to find out. I understand the 19 is a smaller version of the 17. I have somewhat smaller hands (not [I]very small[I] but not at all large) and was curious if the grip/backstraps on the 19 are smaller than on the 17, or if its just barrel length etc that is smaller. For someone with smaller hands, would I be wise to look elsewhere than a glock for a high capacity full size gun? What pistols might fit the ticket for me if I do well with a slightly smaller grip but still desire the longer barrel and higher capacity of a full size?
Walther Creed looks promising at a fair price.
PS nothing crazy expensive. I don't care about bells and whistles. Reliability is more important to me.
PSS I have a glock 42 right now. It is my only pistol. I like it very much, it's great for concealed carry, but I would like something a tad bit beefier and in 9mm for home defense or TEOTWAWKI. Not looking for another carry piece.
Ok so the question isn't as quick as I thought it would be lol.
But you get the idea. Thoughts? Feelings? Criticisms of my thought process (there always is)?

Joe_Pike · October 8, 2017, 07:49 PM

Shorter grip, shorter slide/barrel. I think I would consider the grip adapters the same size (even though the 17's are longer), but the "hump" at the bottom of the grip is what makes it feel different to me. I have a 26 and a 19 and the 19 feels better because the "hump" on the 26 makes it feel bigger to me than the 19. The 17 fits my hand slightly better but I would still rather have the 19. YMMV.

Sharkbite · October 8, 2017, 07:58 PM

A Smith &Wesson M&P with the small adaptor is noticably smaller then a G19

A G19 without a backstrap (or a Gen3) fits my hand perfectly. The small backstrap on my M&P is too small

sakata8242 · October 8, 2017, 08:36 PM

The way the Glock backstrap is contoured, the "Glock hump" will sit differently in your hand if you compare the 17 and 19. For me, I don't shoot the 17 well at all because of how the geometry changes from the 17 to 19. The 19 fits my medium sized hands better.

I moved away from Glocks and found that the HK P30 series of pistols fit my hand the best so far. When I take my Glocks out of the safe now, they feel like bricks in my hand.

VoodooMountain · October 8, 2017, 09:57 PM

All glock 9mm/40 have same size grip frame . Only the length differs. The hump thickness are identical however some people find the subcompact version fits best as the hump ends up in the palm of the hand because the grip handle is so short.

The 17/19/34-22/23/35- 31/32 will fit identical to each other in your hand.

Mp 2.0 with small grip is the smallest grip on a double stack gun I have ever used. The 4 modules let you tailor it to get it just right.

I bought a 2.0 last week and it is a Very good pistol.
Gen 4 glock without backstrap also works very well for small-average size hands.

In my eyes those 2 are your best options in striker fired poly world for a myriad of reason which I won't get into in this thread.

Eaa witness or any cz75 also has a thinner grip but the platform isn't exactly apples to apples.

I absolutely refuse to recommend an xd however they have a slim grip with a 1911 style grip angle.

tipoc · October 8, 2017, 10:05 PM

Post #4 summed it up well. There is no difference in the circumference of the grips between the 17 and the 19. But because of the different lengths of the grip frame they do feel a bit different in the hand.

So keep trying things out. There have been some good suggestions.

tipoc

Chui · October 9, 2017, 05:20 AM

Also, look at the CZ P10C. It has a thin grip and slight palm swells.

The Beretta APX should also be looked closely at.

There is also the H&K P2000 (LEM variant).

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smee78 · October 9, 2017, 05:49 AM

Best bet is to go to a well stocked dealer and start putting guns in your hand. Its the only true way to know how they will feel in your hand.
But like it was mentioned, the 17 VS 19 is about a 1/2 inch length on the barrel and about 1/2 inch on the grip length.

Doc Holliday 1950 · October 9, 2017, 08:25 PM

Keith,
I have a slightly smaller than the average hand size and picked the G19
over the G17 for that very reason. When my G19 arrived I did not change the back strap and the 19 fit my hands perfectly. I hope this helps I then bought the G43.
This too fit my hands perfectly. No adjustments there either. Hand size & hand strength are most important in picking the right revolver/pistol IMHO. These were some of the primary reasons for buying my Glocks. Don't buy what's the ' COOL" weapon. Get what fits your hands the best and has what you want & what you shoot the best always.

JDBerg · October 10, 2017, 12:44 PM

I have a Gen3 17 and a Gen3 19 and these are both excellent, reliable and accurate service pistols. I practice with them both a lot and I think I shoot both very well. These are both keepers, I could not choose one over the other, but my Gen5 choice will be a 19 with factory NS.

**Spats McGee** · October 10, 2017, 04:57 PM

OP, get thee to a range and shoot some pistols to see what fits your hands! My hands are on the "smallish side of medium," and the Gen 4 G19 with no backstrap fits them well. The M&P Shield also fits well. One brand that I haven't seen mentioned (or perhaps overlooked) is Kahr. I think they make a couple of single-stack handguns in the mid-sized range that might be worth a look. Maybe the K9 or the P9?

Ibmikey · October 11, 2017, 02:43 AM

Spats McGee Is pretty much on the issue you (OP) need to try the suggested pistols on for size, how do they feel ? Point? Have comfortable controls? Like new shoes, Once you try them on for size it is time for a walk (range) .
Fire the weapons you have chosen to suit your needs and make your decision at that point.

keithdog · October 11, 2017, 04:16 PM

Thank you gents this is good advice. I do not have much money and will not be getting anything soon, and that is all the more reason to ask and plan well ahead so that I do not end up with buyers remorse after having saved up for months.
Thank you all.
Thread closed.

otasan · October 13, 2017, 10:42 PM

Gen 4 G19s have interchangeable backstraps that change the grip diameter.

**Spats McGee** · October 14, 2017, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keithdog

Thank you gents this is good advice. I do not have much money and will not be getting anything soon, and that is all the more reason to ask and plan well ahead so that I do not end up with buyers remorse after having saved up for months.
Thank you all.

keithdog, I get that. I really do. I loathe buyer's remorse. You may not have much money, but a trip to the range might help clarify your preferences here. Even better, got any friends that will let you shoot their pistols for free? (Though some offer of payment should be made and would undoubtedly be appreciated.)

otasan · October 17, 2017, 11:36 AM

I am sending my G17 back to GlockGA on 25Oct2017. It has a broken striker and striker housing. Too much dry-firing, I suppose.

October 8, 2017, 07:37 PM	#1
keithdog Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2013 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 321	glock 17 vs 19 size? quick question Hello, I am posting this on my fathers account, as I have occasionally done. Anyway, I cannot find an answer online, and short of going to the store and holding them, this is a quick easy way to find out. I understand the 19 is a smaller version of the 17. I have somewhat smaller hands (not [I]very small[I] but not at all large) and was curious if the grip/backstraps on the 19 are smaller than on the 17, or if its just barrel length etc that is smaller. For someone with smaller hands, would I be wise to look elsewhere than a glock for a high capacity full size gun? What pistols might fit the ticket for me if I do well with a slightly smaller grip but still desire the longer barrel and higher capacity of a full size? Walther Creed looks promising at a fair price. PS nothing crazy expensive. I don't care about bells and whistles. Reliability is more important to me. PSS I have a glock 42 right now. It is my only pistol. I like it very much, it's great for concealed carry, but I would like something a tad bit beefier and in 9mm for home defense or TEOTWAWKI. Not looking for another carry piece. Ok so the question isn't as quick as I thought it would be lol. But you get the idea. Thoughts? Feelings? Criticisms of my thought process (there always is)? __________________ In MY house, I AM 911

October 8, 2017, 07:49 PM	#2
Joe_Pike Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2010 Posts: 1,581	Shorter grip, shorter slide/barrel. I think I would consider the grip adapters the same size (even though the 17's are longer), but the "hump" at the bottom of the grip is what makes it feel different to me. I have a 26 and a 19 and the 19 feels better because the "hump" on the 26 makes it feel bigger to me than the 19. The 17 fits my hand slightly better but I would still rather have the 19. YMMV. __________________ Stay Groovy

October 8, 2017, 09:57 PM	#5
VoodooMountain Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2014 Posts: 179	All glock 9mm/40 have same size grip frame . Only the length differs. The hump thickness are identical however some people find the subcompact version fits best as the hump ends up in the palm of the hand because the grip handle is so short. The 17/19/34-22/23/35- 31/32 will fit identical to each other in your hand. Mp 2.0 with small grip is the smallest grip on a double stack gun I have ever used. The 4 modules let you tailor it to get it just right. I bought a 2.0 last week and it is a Very good pistol. Gen 4 glock without backstrap also works very well for small-average size hands. In my eyes those 2 are your best options in striker fired poly world for a myriad of reason which I won't get into in this thread. Eaa witness or any cz75 also has a thinner grip but the platform isn't exactly apples to apples. I absolutely refuse to recommend an xd however they have a slim grip with a 1911 style grip angle. Last edited by VoodooMountain; October 8, 2017 at 10:04 PM.

October 9, 2017, 05:20 AM	#7
Chui Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 2004 Posts: 1,784	glock 17 vs 19 size? quick question Also, look at the CZ P10C. It has a thin grip and slight palm swells. The Beretta APX should also be looked closely at. There is also the H&K P2000 (LEM variant). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

October 9, 2017, 05:49 AM	#8
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,918	Best bet is to go to a well stocked dealer and start putting guns in your hand. Its the only true way to know how they will feel in your hand. But like it was mentioned, the 17 VS 19 is about a 1/2 inch length on the barrel and about 1/2 inch on the grip length. __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

October 8, 2017, 07:58 PM	#3
Sharkbite Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2013 Location: Western slope of Colorado Posts: 3,679	A Smith &Wesson M&P with the small adaptor is noticably smaller then a G19 A G19 without a backstrap (or a Gen3) fits my hand perfectly. The small backstrap on my M&P is too small

October 8, 2017, 08:36 PM	#4
sakata8242 Member Join Date: August 14, 2010 Posts: 55	The way the Glock backstrap is contoured, the "Glock hump" will sit differently in your hand if you compare the 17 and 19. For me, I don't shoot the 17 well at all because of how the geometry changes from the 17 to 19. The 19 fits my medium sized hands better. I moved away from Glocks and found that the HK P30 series of pistols fit my hand the best so far. When I take my Glocks out of the safe now, they feel like bricks in my hand.

October 8, 2017, 10:05 PM	#6
tipoc Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Location: Redwood City, Ca. Posts: 4,114	Post #4 summed it up well. There is no difference in the circumference of the grips between the 17 and the 19. But because of the different lengths of the grip frame they do feel a bit different in the hand. So keep trying things out. There have been some good suggestions. tipoc

October 9, 2017, 08:25 PM	#9
Doc Holliday 1950 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2014 Location: Bout as south as it gets Posts: 1,238	Keith, I have a slightly smaller than the average hand size and picked the G19 over the G17 for that very reason. When my G19 arrived I did not change the back strap and the 19 fit my hands perfectly. I hope this helps I then bought the G43. This too fit my hands perfectly. No adjustments there either. Hand size & hand strength are most important in picking the right revolver/pistol IMHO. These were some of the primary reasons for buying my Glocks. Don't buy what's the ' COOL" weapon. Get what fits your hands the best and has what you want & what you shoot the best always. __________________ Shoot well and be Accurate, Doc

October 10, 2017, 12:44 PM	#10
JDBerg Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 2015 Location: PA Posts: 1,835	I have a Gen3 17 and a Gen3 19 and these are both excellent, reliable and accurate service pistols. I practice with them both a lot and I think I shoot both very well. These are both keepers, I could not choose one over the other, but my Gen5 choice will be a 19 with factory NS. __________________ Words to Live By: Before You Pray - Believe; Before You Speak - Listen; Before You Spend - Earn; Before You Write - Think; Before You Quit - Try; Before You Die - Live

October 10, 2017, 04:57 PM	#11
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	OP, get thee to a range and shoot some pistols to see what fits your hands! My hands are on the "smallish side of medium," and the Gen 4 G19 with no backstrap fits them well. The M&P Shield also fits well. One brand that I haven't seen mentioned (or perhaps overlooked) is Kahr. I think they make a couple of single-stack handguns in the mid-sized range that might be worth a look. Maybe the K9 or the P9? __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

October 11, 2017, 02:43 AM	#12
Ibmikey Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2013 Location: Now relocated to Texas Posts: 2,943	Spats McGee Is pretty much on the issue you (OP) need to try the suggested pistols on for size, how do they feel ? Point? Have comfortable controls? Like new shoes, Once you try them on for size it is time for a walk (range) . Fire the weapons you have chosen to suit your needs and make your decision at that point.

October 11, 2017, 04:16 PM	#13
keithdog Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2013 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 321	Thank you gents this is good advice. I do not have much money and will not be getting anything soon, and that is all the more reason to ask and plan well ahead so that I do not end up with buyers remorse after having saved up for months. Thank you all. Thread closed. __________________ In MY house, I AM 911

October 13, 2017, 10:42 PM	#14
otasan Junior member Join Date: April 17, 2005 Location: Hartford, Vermont Posts: 519	Gen 4 G19s have interchangeable backstraps that change the grip diameter.

October 17, 2017, 11:36 AM	#16
otasan Junior member Join Date: April 17, 2005 Location: Hartford, Vermont Posts: 519	Glock 17 I am sending my G17 back to GlockGA on 25Oct2017. It has a broken striker and striker housing. Too much dry-firing, I suppose.