help identify

dlgman · January 12, 2010, 07:14 PM

I'm sorry if I do this wrong or poorly. I need help with this rifle built in Suhl Germany in 1877. I hope It's worth a fortune so I can keep playing with new toys. If not a fortune I want to put it back into battery and use the old girl.

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**Bud Helms** · January 12, 2010, 08:55 PM

Well, I got them posted inline for you, dlgman. No problem. But man, those are some huge pics!

Let's move this to Harley's Research Forum and leave a redirect from General and see what you get.

SDC · January 12, 2010, 10:38 PM

Some overall pictures would definitely help, but they don't need to be as high-resolution; nevertheless, going by the "M.71" in the first photo, I'd say it's one of the versions of the M1871 Mauser, built by several German arsenals, and chambered for the 43 Mauser cartridge. We'd need the barrel length to know if it's one of the carbine or rifle versions, and there should be additional marks on the receiver, showing whether it was built at Danzig, at Spandau, at Mauser, and so on.

mapsjanhere · January 12, 2010, 10:41 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_Model_1871

During the Franco-German war of 1870/71, the Dreyse needle gun proved inferior to the newer French Chasepot. The Model 71 was the first German military rifle to use a metal cartridge (while still with paper wrapped bullet), in the (for the time small) 11 mm caliber. It was replaced in 1888 by the Model 88, which itself only lasted 10 years until the Model 98 of WWI and WWII fame came along.
These rifles are not too rare since they were never used in war and got sold off often in mint condition; usually they bring around $1000 on gunbroker.

James K · January 15, 2010, 02:58 PM

It says "K Mod. 71" which means it is a carbine (Karabiner).

Jim

January 12, 2010, 07:14 PM	#1
dlgman Junior Member Join Date: January 10, 2010 Location: utah Posts: 4	help identify I'm sorry if I do this wrong or poorly. I need help with this rifle built in Suhl Germany in 1877. I hope It's worth a fortune so I can keep playing with new toys. If not a fortune I want to put it back into battery and use the old girl. DSC01433.jpg DSC01437.jpg DSC01476.jpg Last edited by dlgman; January 12, 2010 at 07:15 PM. Reason: sorry you get #'s not photos

January 12, 2010, 10:38 PM	#3
SDC Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2001 Location: People's Republic of Kanada Posts: 1,652	Some overall pictures would definitely help, but they don't need to be as high-resolution; nevertheless, going by the "M.71" in the first photo, I'd say it's one of the versions of the M1871 Mauser, built by several German arsenals, and chambered for the 43 Mauser cartridge. We'd need the barrel length to know if it's one of the carbine or rifle versions, and there should be additional marks on the receiver, showing whether it was built at Danzig, at Spandau, at Mauser, and so on. __________________ Gun control in Canada: making the streets safer for rapists, muggers, and other violent criminals since 1936.

January 12, 2010, 10:41 PM	#4
mapsjanhere Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,832	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_Model_1871 During the Franco-German war of 1870/71, the Dreyse needle gun proved inferior to the newer French Chasepot. The Model 71 was the first German military rifle to use a metal cartridge (while still with paper wrapped bullet), in the (for the time small) 11 mm caliber. It was replaced in 1888 by the Model 88, which itself only lasted 10 years until the Model 98 of WWI and WWII fame came along. These rifles are not too rare since they were never used in war and got sold off often in mint condition; usually they bring around $1000 on gunbroker. __________________ I used to love being able to hit hard at 1000 yards. As I get older I find hitting a mini ram at 200 yards with the 22 oddly more satisfying.

January 12, 2010, 08:55 PM	#2
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	Well, I got them posted inline for you, dlgman. No problem. But man, those are some huge pics! Let's move this to Harley's Research Forum and leave a redirect from General and see what you get.

January 15, 2010, 02:58 PM	#5
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	It says "K Mod. 71" which means it is a carbine (Karabiner). Jim