December 29, 2012, 11:05 AM | #26 |
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OK how many people have you seen killed with a nuclear weapon? If you haven't seen anyone killed by one then I guess that's just another one of those internet theories.
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American Rifleman tested them. Five shot average in 10% calibrated ballistic gel was 11 inches penetration and expansion to .577 inches. http://www.americanrifleman.org/Arti...id=1390&cid=32. Here's another where the tester used 10% calibrated ballistic gel. Through four layers of denim, penetration was 13 3/4 inch and expansion was .593 inches. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khazbS9pWjE Take a look at this test in Sim-Test Ballistic medium (equivalent to 10% calibrated ballistic gel) from tnoutdoors9 at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k890Rio2oBY. Penetration through four layers of denim is 12 3/8 inches and expansion to .544 inches average. All the bullets above retained practically their entire weight. You can find similar results in test after test. Don't get hung up on Brass Fetchers. I used to really devour every thing they wrote until someone pointed out details like the 20% gel mix. BTW, not saying there is anything wrong with DPX or certain other loads. However, I have found Gold Dots to be consistently good performers across a variety of handgun calibers and they have shown good performance repeatedly in tests. |
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December 30, 2012, 02:27 AM | #29 | |
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Either way, if you look at the actual test write-ups, such as the newer ones with bone simulant, or the summary tables of their older tests, they are all done using calibrated 10% ballistics gelatin (although you are correct that the exact calibration isn't always listed). P.S. I am in no way affiliated with Brass Fetcher. I Just appreciate their work. |
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December 30, 2012, 02:56 AM | #30 |
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"I have found Gold Dots to be consistently good performers across a variety of handgun calibers and they have shown good performance repeatedly in tests."
Good points. Most of Brassfetcher's testing is 10% and the video is 20%. One thing is for sure, the Gold Dots can hold up to a lot of speed. The .38 Special does not seem to take full advantage of the Gold Dot. |
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December 31, 2012, 12:31 AM | #32 |
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Differing philosophies
Do you subscribe to the high velocity/light bullet philosophy or the low velocity/heavy bullet thinking? I can't decide so I stay in the middle with 125 gr JHP +P which seems to be the best trade-off in bullet energy. One thing that makes me lean to the heavy bullet theory though is that there is no question that the .45 ACP is a reliable man stopper and I figure a slower but heavier bullet like the .38 +P 158 gr. JHP is a not-quite-as powerful analog to the .45s performance. The .357 also has a good reputation as an effective stopper but in the house I'll stick to the .38+P because I would like to keep my hearing.
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December 31, 2012, 12:38 AM | #33 |
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I like the Cor-Bon DPX Barnes 110gr. +P the best in a snub.
Good penetration and minimal recoil for a +P. |
December 31, 2012, 12:48 AM | #34 |
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^^^^^^^^
I don't think there is any better load out there if you want an expanding bullet. |
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