Korth is here . . .

KyJim · May 15, 2016, 08:56 PM

Nighthawk and Korth team up and enter the American revolver market -- http://www.nighthawkcustom.com/korth. Models include the Mongoose which appears to be the same as the National Standard, the Sky Hawk which appears to be the Sky Marshal and the Super Sport which appears to be the same as ... well, the Super Sport. http://www.korth-waffen.de/en/models.html. Supposedly, Nighthawk may have some revolvers at the NRA meeting in Louisville this upcoming week.

I'll have to say that a three inch 9mm which doesn't require moonclips appeals to me, but I just find it difficult to wrap my mind around such an ugly gun as the Sky Hawk. I like the looks of the Mongoose but find it hard to wrap my mind around the price -- $3,400! Yet, that's in the ballpark for some of the high end 1911s.

barnbwt · May 15, 2016, 09:00 PM

Well I'll be damned; someone finally out-railed the TRR8 and 6" Chiappa Rhino --bravo.

What happened to the Sky Marshall being under 1000$? Should've known...

TCB

Venom1956 · May 15, 2016, 09:16 PM

pretty sure korths were quite a bit less before this 'team up' harder to find sure but i dont think they were approaching 4k.

Can u still get normal korths without nighthawks stamp (and cost less

) on the side? the Korth stamp is the only one their gun needs imho.

KyJim · May 15, 2016, 09:27 PM

I can't answer your question. I do know that, with the right dealer, you can buy Nighthawk 1911s at below MSRP. Whether that will be true of the revolver, I don't know.

Radny97 · May 15, 2016, 09:28 PM

Korths run $4000 to $8000. This might actually be a price drop.

James K · May 15, 2016, 10:13 PM

Will there be a range report or review? Is Korth really worth that much more and if so, what makes it so much better?

Jim (non-Korth owner)

Model12Win · May 15, 2016, 10:32 PM

$3,500 and they're selling 'em with freaking Hogue ugly rubber grips?

Get outta here...

Venom1956 · May 15, 2016, 10:51 PM

maybe i was thinking about the Manurhin MR 73 prices? I cant remember. I'd have to handle one before i'd drop 3k on one. not huge on the rail but im a sucker for PPC style guns.

Slimjim9 · May 15, 2016, 11:00 PM

I was interested in the Sky Marshal when I first heard about it but at $1700, I'm not interested.

BigJimP · May 15, 2016, 11:18 PM

I like the super sport - but i'm not crazy about night hawk's involvement....in my view it diminish's the korth brand.....but we'll see....

I've been considering a korth for several months - but have been reluctant to make an order when I have not been able to hold and inspect one of their revolvers at this point...

Wishoot · May 16, 2016, 06:49 AM

Insane price.

But those with the $$$$ won't think twice about buying one.

buck460XVR · May 16, 2016, 09:25 AM

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Insane price.

But those with the $$$$ won't think twice about buying one.

^^^This. But all of us would in a heartbeat if we had the resources.

lee n. field · May 16, 2016, 09:53 AM

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I assume that's for some gun game? That's ugly.

Wyosmith · May 16, 2016, 10:14 AM

Korth is here...............and at that price it's a good place for them to stay.

Speaking strictly for myself, I'd rather have an N-frame S&W or a Ruger GP100

**4V50 Gary** · May 16, 2016, 11:53 AM

Korth has a smooth double action trigger pull and this may be attributed to the roller bearing they put on the end of the sear. The roller means that the pressure curve is gradual and smooth and doesn't have spikes (like a Ruger does).

KyJim · May 16, 2016, 12:28 PM

There's an interesting YouTube video on whether a Korth is worth the price from a Korth owner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJZwhrxokGA. According to him, it's worth it if you have a lot of extra cash but not for most of us. While a fine revolver, there are older Colts and S&Ws (with action jobs) that shoot just as well and have a trigger just as smooth.

BigJimP said:

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I like the super sport - but i'm not crazy about night hawk's involvement....in my view it diminish's the korth brand. . .

Other than increased availability might diminish the value, I don't necessarily agree. I bought a Nighthawk 1911 a while back and it is a fantastic pistol and I have guns from Baer, Brown, and Wilson for comparison purposes. Obviously, a revolver is different than a 1911 but I'm convinced NH can make/assemble a top quality revolver with assistance from Korth.

Skans · May 16, 2016, 01:17 PM

While I do really want a Korth .357, these simply aren't Korths. I don't know what else to say, but I'm not interested.

BigJimP · May 16, 2016, 02:55 PM

I have guns from Wilson, one Brown and one Baer as well.../ with the poorest gun of the group coming from Baer...( and I've fired a number of Nighthawks..) ...

...and I wouldn't even trade the Baer for a Nighthawk...
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I wouldn't buy a Korth with a Nighthawk logo on it..

Venom1956 · May 16, 2016, 03:24 PM

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While I do really want a Korth .357, these simply aren't Korths. I don't know what else to say, but I'm not interested.

You mean as in style and looks compared to the classic korth looks or are these actually not as nice as regular korths? Just curious.

I am really surprised and sad the 'mongoose' -CENSORED--CENSORED--CENSORED- is that name?! Or national standard (regular name) cant be gotten with the old blued finish. which was amazing.

**Tom Servo** · May 16, 2016, 04:43 PM

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Korth has a smooth double action trigger pull and this may be attributed to the roller bearing they put on the end of the sear.

That's an interesting idea. I didn't know they did that.

I had the chance to shoot one a few years ago. The DA pull was smooth, but not $2700 smoother than a S&W K-Frame.

Skans · May 16, 2016, 04:54 PM

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You mean as in style and looks compared to the classic korth looks or are these actually not as nice as regular korths? Just curious.

Yes, purely style and looks. Since I've never owned a Korth nor handled this Nighthawk, there's no way for me to make any other type of comparison.

Venom1956 · May 16, 2016, 09:46 PM

OK just checking wasn't sure if these were maybe more mass produced or something

KyJim · May 16, 2016, 10:20 PM

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..and I wouldn't even trade the Baer for a Nighthawk..

Different strokes.

I won't belabor the point because this is a revolver thread. I will admit that even if I were to spend the kind of money we're talking about here, I wouldn't want to beta test the guns at those prices.

SansSouci · May 16, 2016, 10:58 PM

I've never seen a Korth. What I've read has been positive.

I honestly don't know if the Korth premium is worth it when compared with a Model 27. The Model 27-2 is an excellent revolver. Those who are Python aficionados will opine identically. They're both excellent guns.

ms6852 · May 17, 2016, 02:19 PM

Normally I would not mind paying a few thousand for a gun, but this gun is so ugly, that it is like going to a bar and picking the ugliest date you want to take home and pay for it.

May 15, 2016, 08:56 PM	#1
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	Korth is here . . . Nighthawk and Korth team up and enter the American revolver market -- http://www.nighthawkcustom.com/korth. Models include the Mongoose which appears to be the same as the National Standard, the Sky Hawk which appears to be the Sky Marshal and the Super Sport which appears to be the same as ... well, the Super Sport. http://www.korth-waffen.de/en/models.html. Supposedly, Nighthawk may have some revolvers at the NRA meeting in Louisville this upcoming week. I'll have to say that a three inch 9mm which doesn't require moonclips appeals to me, but I just find it difficult to wrap my mind around such an ugly gun as the Sky Hawk. I like the looks of the Mongoose but find it hard to wrap my mind around the price -- $3,400! Yet, that's in the ballpark for some of the high end 1911s.

May 15, 2016, 09:00 PM	#2
barnbwt Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2012 Posts: 1,085	Well I'll be damned; someone finally out-railed the TRR8 and 6" Chiappa Rhino --bravo. What happened to the Sky Marshall being under 1000$? Should've known... TCB __________________ "I don't believe that the men of the distant past were any wiser than we are today. But it does seem that their science and technology were able to accomplish much grander things." -- Alex Rosewater

May 15, 2016, 09:16 PM	#3
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	pretty sure korths were quite a bit less before this 'team up' harder to find sure but i dont think they were approaching 4k. Can u still get normal korths without nighthawks stamp (and cost less) on the side? the Korth stamp is the only one their gun needs imho. __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

May 15, 2016, 10:51 PM	#8
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	maybe i was thinking about the Manurhin MR 73 prices? I cant remember. I'd have to handle one before i'd drop 3k on one. not huge on the rail but im a sucker for PPC style guns. __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

May 15, 2016, 11:00 PM	#9
Slimjim9 Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2015 Posts: 783	I was interested in the Sky Marshal when I first heard about it but at $1700, I'm not interested. __________________ Who said anything about safe? ‘Course he isn’t safe. But he’s good.

May 15, 2016, 09:27 PM	#4
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	I can't answer your question. I do know that, with the right dealer, you can buy Nighthawk 1911s at below MSRP. Whether that will be true of the revolver, I don't know.

May 15, 2016, 09:28 PM	#5
Radny97 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2015 Posts: 1,021	Korths run $4000 to $8000. This might actually be a price drop.

May 15, 2016, 10:13 PM	#6
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Will there be a range report or review? Is Korth really worth that much more and if so, what makes it so much better? Jim (non-Korth owner)

May 15, 2016, 10:32 PM	#7
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	$3,500 and they're selling 'em with freaking Hogue ugly rubber grips? Get outta here...

May 15, 2016, 11:18 PM	#10
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	I like the super sport - but i'm not crazy about night hawk's involvement....in my view it diminish's the korth brand.....but we'll see.... I've been considering a korth for several months - but have been reluctant to make an order when I have not been able to hold and inspect one of their revolvers at this point...

May 16, 2016, 06:49 AM	#11
Wishoot Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,093	Insane price. But those with the $$$$ won't think twice about buying one.

May 16, 2016, 10:14 AM	#14
Wyosmith Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2010 Location: Shoshoni Wyoming Posts: 2,713	Korth is here...............and at that price it's a good place for them to stay. Speaking strictly for myself, I'd rather have an N-frame S&W or a Ruger GP100

May 16, 2016, 11:53 AM	#15
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	Korth has a smooth double action trigger pull and this may be attributed to the roller bearing they put on the end of the sear. The roller means that the pressure curve is gradual and smooth and doesn't have spikes (like a Ruger does). __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

May 16, 2016, 01:17 PM	#17
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	While I do really want a Korth .357, these simply aren't Korths. I don't know what else to say, but I'm not interested.

May 16, 2016, 02:55 PM	#18
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	I have guns from Wilson, one Brown and one Baer as well.../ with the poorest gun of the group coming from Baer...( and I've fired a number of Nighthawks..) ... ...and I wouldn't even trade the Baer for a Nighthawk... -------------- I wouldn't buy a Korth with a Nighthawk logo on it..

May 16, 2016, 09:46 PM	#22
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	OK just checking wasn't sure if these were maybe more mass produced or something __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

May 16, 2016, 10:58 PM	#24
SansSouci Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2013 Location: Heart of Reagan Country Posts: 479	I've never seen a Korth. What I've read has been positive. I honestly don't know if the Korth premium is worth it when compared with a Model 27. The Model 27-2 is an excellent revolver. Those who are Python aficionados will opine identically. They're both excellent guns.

May 17, 2016, 02:19 PM	#25
ms6852 Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,394	Normally I would not mind paying a few thousand for a gun, but this gun is so ugly, that it is like going to a bar and picking the ugliest date you want to take home and pay for it. __________________ ONLY TWO DEFINING FORCES HAVE GIVEN UP THEIR LIVES FOR YOU. ONE IS JESUS CHRIST FOR YOUR SOUL AND THE OTHER IS THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOUR FREEDOM.