Is this a Mauser? What model?

kozak6 · July 19, 2008, 11:17 PM

My friend picked it up at a gunshow today.

We didn't get it out of the stock yet, but the only markings were serial number and caliber.

It appears to be somewhat similar to a Mauser 98, except that the cocking sleeve is somewhat different, and there aren't any of those short lugs(?) on the bolt body.

A CZ24 (Czech K98) bolt will fit until the short lugs on the bolt body stop it from going into the reciever.

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Darren007 · July 20, 2008, 12:00 AM

At first i thought and posted that it was a sporterized U.S. M1917. The bolt was the giveaway. The dog leg and toggle safety.

But...after looking at your photos again...im not so sure. The bolt is definitley a M1917 bolt, but the receiver bridge doesnt look like an M1917.

Im not sure if its even possible...but could it be a Mauser using a that paticular bolt maybe??? While I seriously doubt it, more pics of the rifles action would help very much!!!

thallub · July 20, 2008, 06:47 AM

That gun is a Model 1917 Enfield with the ears milled off. It was probably modified by a good gunsmith.

Remington made hundreds of thousands of rifles on the Enfield action. Remington models 30, 720 and 725 come to mind. The Remington model 725 is the premier Enfield. The model 725 Kodiak sells for very big bucks on the used gun market.

Darren007 · July 20, 2008, 01:54 PM

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That gun is a Model 1917 Enfield with the ears milled off. It was probably modified by a good gunsmith.

Thats what I was thinking....but you just dont see that too often. Threw me off.

James K · July 20, 2008, 02:40 PM

I don't know about a good gunsmith, but I did a lot of that kind of work. The rifles were cheap ($30 or so) and available by mail order. That looks like a pretty fair job, but as prices of the original rifles goes steadily upward, current owners wish their ancestor or other previous owner had let well enough alone and bought a sporting rifle.

Jim

thallub · July 20, 2008, 03:59 PM

Someone did a nice job in building that rifle. Probably done in the 50s or 60s judging from the roll-over cheekpiece. It is unusual for a long barreled rifle to have a Mannlicher stock.

kozak6 · July 20, 2008, 05:11 PM

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Thanks for the help, guys!

Tom2 · July 25, 2008, 11:44 AM

Very strong action and many were converted to something more powerful than the original 30-06 cal. due to that factor. Looks quality, and is nothing to be shy about. As long as the headspace is good it ought to give you good sporting service.

July 19, 2008, 11:17 PM	#1
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 3,113	Is this a Mauser? What model? My friend picked it up at a gunshow today. We didn't get it out of the stock yet, but the only markings were serial number and caliber. It appears to be somewhat similar to a Mauser 98, except that the cocking sleeve is somewhat different, and there aren't any of those short lugs(?) on the bolt body. A CZ24 (Czech K98) bolt will fit until the short lugs on the bolt body stop it from going into the reciever. Pictures: http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?i...1245009zi1.jpg http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?i...1245010rq7.jpg http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?i...1245011mu5.jpg http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?i...1247013ws8.jpg http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?i...1248014ai5.jpg http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?i...1246012qx3.jpg

July 20, 2008, 12:00 AM	#2
Darren007 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,053	At first i thought and posted that it was a sporterized U.S. M1917. The bolt was the giveaway. The dog leg and toggle safety. But...after looking at your photos again...im not so sure. The bolt is definitley a M1917 bolt, but the receiver bridge doesnt look like an M1917. Im not sure if its even possible...but could it be a Mauser using a that paticular bolt maybe??? While I seriously doubt it, more pics of the rifles action would help very much!!! Last edited by Darren007; July 20, 2008 at 01:13 AM.

July 25, 2008, 11:44 AM	#8
Tom2 Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,676	Very strong action and many were converted to something more powerful than the original 30-06 cal. due to that factor. Looks quality, and is nothing to be shy about. As long as the headspace is good it ought to give you good sporting service. __________________ Your gun is like your nose, it is just wrong for someone else to pick it for you!

July 20, 2008, 06:47 AM	#3
thallub Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2007 Location: South Western OK Posts: 3,112	That gun is a Model 1917 Enfield with the ears milled off. It was probably modified by a good gunsmith. Remington made hundreds of thousands of rifles on the Enfield action. Remington models 30, 720 and 725 come to mind. The Remington model 725 is the premier Enfield. The model 725 Kodiak sells for very big bucks on the used gun market.

July 20, 2008, 02:40 PM	#5
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	I don't know about a good gunsmith, but I did a lot of that kind of work. The rifles were cheap ($30 or so) and available by mail order. That looks like a pretty fair job, but as prices of the original rifles goes steadily upward, current owners wish their ancestor or other previous owner had let well enough alone and bought a sporting rifle. Jim

July 20, 2008, 03:59 PM	#6
thallub Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2007 Location: South Western OK Posts: 3,112	Someone did a nice job in building that rifle. Probably done in the 50s or 60s judging from the roll-over cheekpiece. It is unusual for a long barreled rifle to have a Mannlicher stock.

July 20, 2008, 05:11 PM	#7
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 3,113	Yeah, that sounds about right. Thanks for the help, guys!