First 100 yard Flintlock report

FrontierGander · June 23, 2017, 08:36 PM

Well now, that was fun! I got all dressed up in my gear as its how I will be hunting, with the exception of blaze orange thrown in to be legal... Even though bowhunters run around with us without the orange on :roll:

Don't worry fellers, this was just a prop picture, I put on my shooting glasses before I primed and took a shot.

I am shooting my Traditions .50cal 1:48 twist, Mountain Rifle with a French Amber flint wrapped in leather, 70gr Goex 3fg, .020" Bridgers Best patches lubed in Frontier's Anti-Rust and Patch Lube, home cast .490" round balls.

No swabbing was done during the shoot.

The 3 shots are the first 3 shots of the evening. After that, I didn't bother taking pictures as I was playing with pan charges, figuring out if there was another sweet spot or if I had found it already. She loves a heavy dose my 4fg Goex priming powder! 2 1/2 - 3 compression's worth.

Dead center, but quite a bit low. I'll make adjustments later on as I plan to change out the rear sight down the road for a semi buckhorn sight.

Notice my short starter? I picked that up at Rendezvous and during the Mountain Man Survival trail, that's where it was at all times. Tucked in snug between my belt buckle loop so it was easy to get to, yet secure.

**4V50 Gary** · June 23, 2017, 08:51 PM

Good shooting. There is so much wood around the lock that you could carve some beavertails behind the lock.

There's quite a # of images on that website. Enjoy:

http://ehcnc.org/decorative-arts/his...entucky-rifle/

2damnold4this · June 23, 2017, 09:29 PM

Looks like a lot of fun. Nice shooting and nice hat. Don't let that short starter poke the wrong balls.

**4V50 Gary** · June 24, 2017, 07:27 AM

Just noticed the horn and bag are on the same side. This is correct for the later period.

FrontierGander · June 24, 2017, 01:56 PM

In no way will I ever touch that stock until the factory seal is coming off LOL.

I've seen a lot of old target rifles that had this style of lock panel and after seeing that, I gave it a thumbs up and figured, good enough. Its not meant to be period correct, just look the part and be affordable.

FrontierGander · June 24, 2017, 01:58 PM

BTW Gary, did you get a chance to go to the rendezvous in raton the other week? A friend and I went and had a blast. Good rendezvous. Next year may be even better with the new booshway.

Hanshi · June 24, 2017, 03:11 PM

That's great shooting. The best I can do at 100 yards with the open sights is 4" or very slightly under. That's my best.

**4V50 Gary** · June 24, 2017, 07:50 PM

FrontierGander - I didn't attend Sante Fe Trails Rendezvous at Whittington Center. I should have gone but I just returned from Friendship and the NMLRA National Shoot.

A woman asked me to reacquaint her with flintlocks. Her father (dec.) built about 30 flintlocks and the only one she kept was his replica of Davy Crockett's rifle. She's fired it before but it was decades. We may go to Prator next week (unless she has someplace else she can shoot it at).

BTW, are you interested in joining the Wah Hah Toy Ya Muzzle Loaders?

FrontierGander · June 24, 2017, 08:58 PM

Gary, I'd be very interested in joining if you can supply me some info and whats required.

Lee44ShooterCnB · June 25, 2017, 06:30 AM

Frontier Gander
"In summary, Kentucky rifles of all the periods, share this in common: they were graceful, aesthetically pleasing shooters regardless of their decorative enhancements."

That is a beautiful long gun

Trinidad State has a very nice range with beautiful vistas

deerslayer303 · June 25, 2017, 07:22 AM

That's some mighty fine shooshting. I sure can't manage a group like that at 100 yards. Nice pics too. Thanks for posting

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mehavey · June 25, 2017, 07:41 AM

please, please puhlease put those shootin' glasses on w/ that flinter.
(i'm jealous of that group so I gotta complain about something.)

**4V50 Gary** · June 25, 2017, 09:10 AM

mehavey - he wore glasses when he shot. The posted images without glasses were taken only for photographic purposes.

shafter · June 25, 2017, 03:09 PM

That's some real good shooting. Some might struggle doing that with a scope.

Model12Win · June 25, 2017, 07:15 PM

VERY nice rifle and EXCELLENT group!!

I am one who thinks that getting too hung up on what is "historically correct" can suck the life out of the hobby. I love your kit and could care less if it's "period" or not, you were out there having fun and making smoke which is what REALLY matters!

drobs · June 27, 2017, 12:16 PM

Nice group!

Model12Win · June 30, 2017, 08:42 PM

Frontier I went ahead and bought a Traditions Mountain Rifle, .50 percussion, at Midway USA.com today. They were on clearance for $376.72. Even after shipping the cost was under $390 for a brand new rifle. Nice! Sorry to see that Photobucket has disabled 3rd party hosting, we can't see your beautiful rifle pictures!!

FrontierGander · June 30, 2017, 09:02 PM

wow thats a steal!

Yeah I know it lol. I told PB to go... well.. you know.

Im uploading pictures to a new server now. Once thats done, PB can go pound sand and kiss customers good bye.

Model12Win · June 30, 2017, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrontierGander

wow thats a steal!

Yeah I know it lol. I told PB to go... well.. you know.

Im uploading pictures to a new server now. Once thats done, PB can go pound sand and kiss customers good bye.

Awesome! I'd love to see those pictures you posted again. I can't wait to get my mountain rifle too, you convinced me and the price was too good to pass up!

FrontierGander · June 30, 2017, 10:35 PM

Model12Win · July 3, 2017, 10:44 PM

Reviews are hard to find for this gun online. It seems you are the only one that pops up on many different sights!

FrontierGander · July 3, 2017, 10:56 PM

True, There's one review on youtube by gunsamerica which the fool is seriously brain dead and offers zero usable advice. Very uneducated guy in front of the camera.

I plan on doing more video work and pictures.

My percussion model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGcpiiVms_Y

My flinter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK2NaUvDN-U

Model12Win · July 6, 2017, 12:02 AM

Are the sights on these rifles plastic or metal? Someone on another forum said they were plastic. Thanks!

Jim Watson · July 6, 2017, 12:22 AM

A friend has a similar halfstock flinter. A fine shooter.

FrontierGander · July 6, 2017, 09:40 AM

Metal sights

June 23, 2017, 08:36 PM	#1
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	First 100 yard Flintlock report Well now, that was fun! I got all dressed up in my gear as its how I will be hunting, with the exception of blaze orange thrown in to be legal... Even though bowhunters run around with us without the orange on :roll: Don't worry fellers, this was just a prop picture, I put on my shooting glasses before I primed and took a shot. I am shooting my Traditions .50cal 1:48 twist, Mountain Rifle with a French Amber flint wrapped in leather, 70gr Goex 3fg, .020" Bridgers Best patches lubed in Frontier's Anti-Rust and Patch Lube, home cast .490" round balls. No swabbing was done during the shoot. The 3 shots are the first 3 shots of the evening. After that, I didn't bother taking pictures as I was playing with pan charges, figuring out if there was another sweet spot or if I had found it already. She loves a heavy dose my 4fg Goex priming powder! 2 1/2 - 3 compression's worth. Dead center, but quite a bit low. I'll make adjustments later on as I plan to change out the rear sight down the road for a semi buckhorn sight. Notice my short starter? I picked that up at Rendezvous and during the Mountain Man Survival trail, that's where it was at all times. Tucked in snug between my belt buckle loop so it was easy to get to, yet secure. __________________ https://buckskinsbp.blogspot.com/

June 23, 2017, 08:51 PM	#2
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	Good shooting. There is so much wood around the lock that you could carve some beavertails behind the lock. There's quite a # of images on that website. Enjoy: http://ehcnc.org/decorative-arts/his...entucky-rifle/ __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

June 24, 2017, 07:27 AM	#4
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	Just noticed the horn and bag are on the same side. This is correct for the later period. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

June 24, 2017, 01:56 PM	#5
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	In no way will I ever touch that stock until the factory seal is coming off LOL. I've seen a lot of old target rifles that had this style of lock panel and after seeing that, I gave it a thumbs up and figured, good enough. Its not meant to be period correct, just look the part and be affordable. __________________ https://buckskinsbp.blogspot.com/

June 24, 2017, 01:58 PM	#6
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	BTW Gary, did you get a chance to go to the rendezvous in raton the other week? A friend and I went and had a blast. Good rendezvous. Next year may be even better with the new booshway. __________________ https://buckskinsbp.blogspot.com/

June 23, 2017, 09:29 PM	#3
2damnold4this Senior Member Join Date: August 12, 2009 Location: Athens, Georgia Posts: 2,526	Looks like a lot of fun. Nice shooting and nice hat. Don't let that short starter poke the wrong balls.

June 24, 2017, 03:11 PM	#7
Hanshi Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2017 Posts: 239	That's great shooting. The best I can do at 100 yards with the open sights is 4" or very slightly under. That's my best.

June 24, 2017, 07:50 PM	#8
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	FrontierGander - I didn't attend Sante Fe Trails Rendezvous at Whittington Center. I should have gone but I just returned from Friendship and the NMLRA National Shoot. A woman asked me to reacquaint her with flintlocks. Her father (dec.) built about 30 flintlocks and the only one she kept was his replica of Davy Crockett's rifle. She's fired it before but it was decades. We may go to Prator next week (unless she has someplace else she can shoot it at). BTW, are you interested in joining the Wah Hah Toy Ya Muzzle Loaders? __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

June 24, 2017, 08:58 PM	#9
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	Gary, I'd be very interested in joining if you can supply me some info and whats required. __________________ https://buckskinsbp.blogspot.com/

June 25, 2017, 06:30 AM	#10
Lee44ShooterCnB Member Join Date: May 13, 2015 Location: Ga. Posts: 68	Frontier Gander "In summary, Kentucky rifles of all the periods, share this in common: they were graceful, aesthetically pleasing shooters regardless of their decorative enhancements." That is a beautiful long gun Trinidad State has a very nice range with beautiful vistas

June 25, 2017, 07:22 AM	#11
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,654	That's some mighty fine shooshting. I sure can't manage a group like that at 100 yards. Nice pics too. Thanks for posting Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

June 25, 2017, 07:41 AM	#12
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,896	please, please puhlease put those shootin' glasses on w/ that flinter. (i'm jealous of that group so I gotta complain about something.)

June 25, 2017, 09:10 AM	#13
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	mehavey - he wore glasses when he shot. The posted images without glasses were taken only for photographic purposes. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

June 25, 2017, 03:09 PM	#14
shafter Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2009 Posts: 1,624	That's some real good shooting. Some might struggle doing that with a scope.

June 25, 2017, 07:15 PM	#15
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	VERY nice rifle and EXCELLENT group!! I am one who thinks that getting too hung up on what is "historically correct" can suck the life out of the hobby. I love your kit and could care less if it's "period" or not, you were out there having fun and making smoke which is what REALLY matters!

June 27, 2017, 12:16 PM	#16
drobs Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 2015 Location: South Central MO / Africa Posts: 1,111	Nice group! __________________ NRA Life Member Last edited by drobs; June 27, 2017 at 12:27 PM.

June 30, 2017, 08:42 PM	#17
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Frontier I went ahead and bought a Traditions Mountain Rifle, .50 percussion, at Midway USA.com today. They were on clearance for $376.72. Even after shipping the cost was under $390 for a brand new rifle. Nice! Sorry to see that Photobucket has disabled 3rd party hosting, we can't see your beautiful rifle pictures!!

June 30, 2017, 09:02 PM	#18
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	wow thats a steal! Yeah I know it lol. I told PB to go... well.. you know. Im uploading pictures to a new server now. Once thats done, PB can go pound sand and kiss customers good bye. __________________ https://buckskinsbp.blogspot.com/

June 30, 2017, 10:35 PM	#20
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	__________________ https://buckskinsbp.blogspot.com/

July 3, 2017, 10:44 PM	#21
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Reviews are hard to find for this gun online. It seems you are the only one that pops up on many different sights!

July 3, 2017, 10:56 PM	#22
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	True, There's one review on youtube by gunsamerica which the fool is seriously brain dead and offers zero usable advice. Very uneducated guy in front of the camera. I plan on doing more video work and pictures. My percussion model. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGcpiiVms_Y My flinter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK2NaUvDN-U __________________ https://buckskinsbp.blogspot.com/

July 6, 2017, 12:02 AM	#23
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Are the sights on these rifles plastic or metal? Someone on another forum said they were plastic. Thanks! Last edited by Model12Win; July 6, 2017 at 12:43 AM.

July 6, 2017, 12:22 AM	#24
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,543	A friend has a similar halfstock flinter. A fine shooter.

July 6, 2017, 09:40 AM	#25
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	Metal sights __________________ https://buckskinsbp.blogspot.com/