IDPA & USPSA Crossover Gun

SpikeSpaceCowboy · April 19, 2025, 02:27 AM

Hey guys, I'm looking to get into doing competition stuff, and I was hoping that I already have is something that I can use for both. If necessary, buy one that will work with both. I'm not going high dollar crazy, but something that would be a contender in both of these Leagues.

Currently own, g19 &17; PPQm2; xmacro

I appreciate any info you can give me.

Jim Watson · April 19, 2025, 11:17 AM

Glock 17 and PPQ are IDPA SSP and USPSA Production. If with red dot sight, CO.

I think the G19 would get you into IDPA CCP but would still be USPSA Production.

If the Xmacro is one of that family with "compensator" it would be IDPA ESP but would be in over its head as USPSA Open.

I like the PPQ but Glocks are far more common and better supported.

RickB · April 19, 2025, 02:46 PM

Any over-the-counter 1911 chambered in .45 is appropriate for Single Stack and Custom Defensive Pistol. The same gun could be used in Limited 10 and Enhanced Service Pistol, if you like, though you'd be stuck with 8rd mags in ESP, which is not ideal.

Jim Watson · April 19, 2025, 10:29 PM

Those are not well attended divisions these days. I have entered them because i already have the gun but I would not buy one now.

SpikeSpaceCowboy · April 20, 2025, 04:36 PM

Thanks man. So in ssp and production, everything is just stock right? no comps, grips, optics(obviously), special triggers.

Jim Watson · April 20, 2025, 10:21 PM

You may change grips (not grip “modules”) or apply grip tape.
You can work the factory trigger.
You can install different iron sights in the factory cuts.

My SSP/Prod is a S&W M&P with just those mods.
Same things on your G17 would work as well.
I think the trigger of the PPQ is good as is and I would only put on fiber optic sights, maybe tape.

SpikeSpaceCowboy · April 21, 2025, 12:09 AM

Alright man that's great, thanks for the info

April 19, 2025, 02:27 AM	#1
SpikeSpaceCowboy Junior Member Join Date: April 17, 2025 Location: earf Posts: 3	IDPA & USPSA Crossover Gun Hey guys, I'm looking to get into doing competition stuff, and I was hoping that I already have is something that I can use for both. If necessary, buy one that will work with both. I'm not going high dollar crazy, but something that would be a contender in both of these Leagues. Currently own, g19 &17; PPQm2; xmacro I appreciate any info you can give me.

April 19, 2025, 02:46 PM	#3
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,556	Any over-the-counter 1911 chambered in .45 is appropriate for Single Stack and Custom Defensive Pistol. The same gun could be used in Limited 10 and Enhanced Service Pistol, if you like, though you'd be stuck with 8rd mags in ESP, which is not ideal. __________________ Runs off at the mouth about anything 1911 related on this site and half the time is flat out wrong.

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April 19, 2025, 11:17 AM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 19,117	Glock 17 and PPQ are IDPA SSP and USPSA Production. If with red dot sight, CO. I think the G19 would get you into IDPA CCP but would still be USPSA Production. If the Xmacro is one of that family with "compensator" it would be IDPA ESP but would be in over its head as USPSA Open. I like the PPQ but Glocks are far more common and better supported.

April 19, 2025, 10:29 PM	#4
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 19,117	Those are not well attended divisions these days. I have entered them because i already have the gun but I would not buy one now.

April 20, 2025, 04:36 PM	#5
SpikeSpaceCowboy Junior Member Join Date: April 17, 2025 Location: earf Posts: 3	Thanks man. So in ssp and production, everything is just stock right? no comps, grips, optics(obviously), special triggers.

April 20, 2025, 10:21 PM	#6
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 19,117	You may change grips (not grip “modules”) or apply grip tape. You can work the factory trigger. You can install different iron sights in the factory cuts. My SSP/Prod is a S&W M&P with just those mods. Same things on your G17 would work as well. I think the trigger of the PPQ is good as is and I would only put on fiber optic sights, maybe tape.

April 21, 2025, 12:09 AM	#7
SpikeSpaceCowboy Junior Member Join Date: April 17, 2025 Location: earf Posts: 3	Alright man that's great, thanks for the info