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January 17, 2013, 06:00 PM | #1 |
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113th Congress: House Bills 223-306
H.R.226 -- Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act (This one allows tax credit for surrendering an assault weapon, but only if it's lawfully possessed. Soooo, ummmm, felons in possession are NOT being encouraged to give up their assault weapons. )
H.R.227 -- Buyback Our Safety Act -- Establishes a gun buyback program in the AG's office. (Gee, I guess all of the buying panic dried up the supply of ARs that Holder needed to fill the cartel's orders.) H.R.236 -- Crackdown on Deadbeat Gun Dealers Act of 2013 H.R.238 -- Fire Sale Loophole Closing Act H.R.274 -- Mental Health First Act of 2013 (not strictly firearms related, but we're seeing a whole lotta mental health talk tied together with firearms talk these days)
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January 17, 2013, 06:26 PM | #2 |
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Dont stand a chance in hell of passing. I think we need to just relax a little at the federal level about every little bill at least until stuff is at least about to come out of comitiee or we are going to end up having heart attacks.
We will see lots and lots and lots of pro and anti gun bills, most will go knowhere. I Think so.ething like less than 7% of bills become law typically. Some really funny bills mostly though, the Senate would never approve funds to buy back guns, nor would the house.
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January 18, 2013, 12:34 AM | #3 |
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Thanks for keeping up on this, Spats!
H.R.226: A $2000 tax credit? Holy cow! Look what's eligible...Cheap Hi Point and Kel Tec carbines and TEC-9 clones! I could snap a few of those up on the cheap and profit. H.R.227: As soon as the CBO publishes an estimate of the cost, this one's dead in the water. H.R.236: Changing the FOPA to increase audits won't fly with most officials. One way to fight this is to simply ask the ATF if they've got the money or manpower. They don't. H.R.238: Isn't this a clone of H.R. 93? Are they trying to simply force as many bills as possible? In any case, it's got no cosponsors.
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January 18, 2013, 03:26 AM | #4 |
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so will there be a collecting station at H & R Block?
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Any semi-auto firearm capable of using detachable magazines is eligible, if it includes any of the following features: Code:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a pistol grip, (iv) a forward grip, or (v) a barrel shroud. A Marlin 785 or model 70 with a pistol grip or folding stock is eligible. A Browning BAR with a BOSS is eligible. A Remington 597 with a folding stock is eligible. And, the list goes on, and on.... There are quite a few ways to take a $75 (or cheaper) rifle, add a $25-50 accessory, and turn it into a $2,000 tax credit. The "assault handgun" catch-all is even better: Code:
(F) A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has-- ``(i) a second pistol grip, ``(ii) a threaded barrel, ``(iii) a barrel shroud, or ``(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at a location outside of the pistol grip. (G) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds. Of course, shotguns were not forgotten: Code:
(H) A semiautomatic shotgun that has-- ``(i) a folding or telescoping stock, ``(ii) a pistol grip, ``(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine, or ``(iv) a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds. But, the best is "catch-all" is right here: Wait for it.... Wait for it.... Quote:
Check it out for yourself, here: HR 226
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I have been contacting my representatives and senators for each and every bill I see pop up.
For HR 226, in particular, this is the text I sent: Quote:
Note: This was sent to them all, individually, under whatever subject their contact form had along the lines of "National Debt", or "Federal Budget". I did not select "Gun rights" or "Gun control" - in hopes of actually getting a real response (not something from the automated system). At the time I didn't see the ridiculous catch-all for shotguns with revolving cylinders, or the max capacity of 5 rounds. And, I did not bother addressing handguns, since I wanted to keep the message as short as I could.
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If it's a smoothbore, forgive my ignorance; I consider it a gimmick and I've generally ignored it.
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January 20, 2013, 01:12 AM | #8 |
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Taurus (Rossi) offers both rifled and smooth bore versions of it.
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January 20, 2013, 10:37 AM | #9 |
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Tax credits are "maybes", all they do is "possibly" assist in putting you in a lower tax bracket...resulting in lower taxes. For the average person, that $2000.00 credit means absolutely nothing....but they won't find that out till tax time to their surprise.
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HR 236:
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HR 227: Quote:
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I'm in. Sounds like I will be saving $1950/ a year in taxes and getting junk off the market. I can't help it if the people writing the law are willfully ignorant, they choose to be that way despite our best efforts to educate them. It is their system, I am just along for the ride even if it is a downward spiral. ETA: I gave this some more thought and now wish the NRA would back this last one (HR 226) hard. There would be some great advantages: - Criminals will not benefit like they do during gun buy backs when trying to get rid of crime guns for cash. Since they mostly pay no taxes there is no incentive for them to participate. - The money given can be used to fund much better gun purchases. For minimal costs I can fund a new AR project every year. Just about anyone would be able to afford a nice new gun purchase by trading in old junk. - Gun makers will benefit all around. Low end gun makers will benefit from purchase and trade in. High end gun makers will benefit after the tax returns come in. If used properly it would be very much like a cash for clunkers give away program.
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January 20, 2013, 02:40 PM | #12 |
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Car guy, you are correct, I did get them confused.
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