Another pawnshop 870

heavybarrel · June 24, 2018, 07:05 PM

Afternoon everyone,

I found an 870 in a pawnshop this week while looking for a home defense shotgun. It is labeled as an Express Magnum, 28" barrel with a vented rib and labeled for 3" use, not that I'll be shooting anything quite that heavy. It's a black matte finish with synthetic stock and forearm, $200 out the door. It's in good mechanical shape and the finish is, well, worn. Not bad but not new. I suspect it has been a truck gun for quite a while. The barrel and action are very clean and operation is smooth. I don't think it was fired often. S/N is D609xxxM. I think this would be a great bird gun and if I ever do that again I'd use it. I'm considering though a pistol grip buttstock and a barrel about 20" if I can find one. It only holds 2 in the tube but it isn't dimpled so I suspect I can increase that count easily. Does anyone have an idea when this might have been made? Doesn't matter really but would be nice to know.

HB

Model12Win · June 24, 2018, 08:24 PM

Sounds good but I'd MUCH rather look for a used Wingmaster or Police gun for home defense.

For birds and such I think you did good though!

MTT TL · June 24, 2018, 08:34 PM

Here is how to date your gun:

http://www.rem870.com/2012/01/19/rem...number-lookup/

28" barrel is a tad long for a HD gun for my tastes. I'd look for an 18" barrel. It will be much easier to use. There is probably a magazine block in the magazine if you want to increase your magazine count simply remove it. Just make sure to comply with whatever hunting regulations are in your area if you use it in the role.

heavybarrel · June 24, 2018, 09:30 PM

Thanks for that web site, looks like this one was made September 2002 based on the stamping on the barrel. If I just go by the s/n it would be 1983 and I don't think it is that old. I had not planned to use the 28" barrel for HD, will be finding something hopefully in he 20" area though Midway has several 18's from Remington and Mossberg for the 870, stocks too. I'll probably spend more on these mods than I did buying the gun. I'll keep the long barrel though if I want to go do some wing shooting. I always make a point of things like max available magazine size, no interest in getting written up over something like that. I'll probably go find a second 12 gauge since I'm one of those people who likes to have at least two of everything. Then I can dedicate one to HD and the other to clays or a little hunting.

HB

MTT TL · June 25, 2018, 11:13 AM

I'd recommend keeping the stock as original unless you have some issue in shooting it. A recoil pad is a good idea. If the pad makes it too long to shoot decently then an adjustable stock might make more sense.

I'd also recommend some kind of forend with a rail system and attaching a light to it ($25-50 depending upon type). Finally a good sling that is designed with weapon retention in mind. Some people attach a side saddle and this is not a bad idea.

This is about all you need for home defense if the sights are good.

T. O'Heir · June 25, 2018, 12:14 PM

"...pistol grip butt stock..." The pistol grip stocks supposedly give better control.
The 20" smooth bore, rifle sighted, slug barrel is a heavy thing. It's walls are much thicker than a bird barrel. Cost me $189Cdn when I bought the thing years ago. About $100 more if it's in the Remington factory blister pack. It came with the phosphated finish.
Cabela's wants $179.99US for one. They have a selection of pistol grip stocks too. $119.99 for one with a forestock with a daft flashlight rail. $99 for just the butt stock.
Shop around though.

heavybarrel · June 25, 2018, 05:12 PM

No place here to shop really. Academy doesn't keep them I'll be damned if I set foot in Dicks again ever. Locals don't seem to keep them. Bass Pro maybe but that's 80 miles away. Scary part is that I live in a busy growing town and should be able to find this stuff. I'll check Midway again. I just like the pistol grip for this kind of shorter barrelled shotgun. On my rifles other than an AR I use the more typical stocks except for a heavy .308.

HB

Combat Weapon System · June 28, 2018, 09:32 PM

Check Ebay I've seen 18 inch Remington barrels new for about $100 on there sometimes. I wouldn't go with a mossberg barrel made for the 870. I worked on one a couple weeks ago and the machining of the barrel throat was really rough looking.

bamaranger · June 28, 2018, 11:20 PM

At one time, Mossberg (yes, Mossberg) made 18" bead sighted 12 ga barrels for the 870, and sold them affordably. Whether they are still available I cannot advise. I would see them in the big parts supply catalogs like Midway and Graff's.

RMcL · July 4, 2018, 01:18 AM

,,,professionally shortened.

https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/vie...p?f=12&t=36237

Mike Orlen does excellent work at very reasonable prices. Frankly, having a vent rib barrel shortened and fitted for remchoke tubes makes a very handy and versatile shotgun. Remington vent ribs are the toughest in the business and make for a great bead on a flat sight flash sight picture, ( o )

June 24, 2018, 07:05 PM	#1
heavybarrel Junior Member Join Date: June 11, 2018 Posts: 11	Another pawnshop 870 Afternoon everyone, I found an 870 in a pawnshop this week while looking for a home defense shotgun. It is labeled as an Express Magnum, 28" barrel with a vented rib and labeled for 3" use, not that I'll be shooting anything quite that heavy. It's a black matte finish with synthetic stock and forearm, $200 out the door. It's in good mechanical shape and the finish is, well, worn. Not bad but not new. I suspect it has been a truck gun for quite a while. The barrel and action are very clean and operation is smooth. I don't think it was fired often. S/N is D609xxxM. I think this would be a great bird gun and if I ever do that again I'd use it. I'm considering though a pistol grip buttstock and a barrel about 20" if I can find one. It only holds 2 in the tube but it isn't dimpled so I suspect I can increase that count easily. Does anyone have an idea when this might have been made? Doesn't matter really but would be nice to know. HB Last edited by heavybarrel; June 24, 2018 at 07:07 PM. Reason: re-wording

June 24, 2018, 08:34 PM	#3
MTT TL Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2009 Location: Quadling Country Posts: 2,780	Here is how to date your gun: http://www.rem870.com/2012/01/19/rem...number-lookup/ 28" barrel is a tad long for a HD gun for my tastes. I'd look for an 18" barrel. It will be much easier to use. There is probably a magazine block in the magazine if you want to increase your magazine count simply remove it. Just make sure to comply with whatever hunting regulations are in your area if you use it in the role. __________________ Thus a man should endeavor to reach this high place of courage with all his heart, and, so trying, never be backward in war.

June 25, 2018, 11:13 AM	#5
MTT TL Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2009 Location: Quadling Country Posts: 2,780	I'd recommend keeping the stock as original unless you have some issue in shooting it. A recoil pad is a good idea. If the pad makes it too long to shoot decently then an adjustable stock might make more sense. I'd also recommend some kind of forend with a rail system and attaching a light to it ($25-50 depending upon type). Finally a good sling that is designed with weapon retention in mind. Some people attach a side saddle and this is not a bad idea. This is about all you need for home defense if the sights are good. __________________ Thus a man should endeavor to reach this high place of courage with all his heart, and, so trying, never be backward in war.

June 25, 2018, 12:14 PM	#6
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	"...pistol grip butt stock..." The pistol grip stocks supposedly give better control. The 20" smooth bore, rifle sighted, slug barrel is a heavy thing. It's walls are much thicker than a bird barrel. Cost me $189Cdn when I bought the thing years ago. About $100 more if it's in the Remington factory blister pack. It came with the phosphated finish. Cabela's wants $179.99US for one. They have a selection of pistol grip stocks too. $119.99 for one with a forestock with a daft flashlight rail. $99 for just the butt stock. Shop around though. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

June 28, 2018, 09:32 PM	#8
Combat Weapon System Member Join Date: June 27, 2018 Location: Mount Sterling Kentucky Posts: 44	Check Ebay I've seen 18 inch Remington barrels new for about $100 on there sometimes. I wouldn't go with a mossberg barrel made for the 870. I worked on one a couple weeks ago and the machining of the barrel throat was really rough looking. __________________ Randall www.combatweaponsystems.com Custom 1911s, Tactical Shotguns & AR Rifles

June 24, 2018, 08:24 PM	#2
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Sounds good but I'd MUCH rather look for a used Wingmaster or Police gun for home defense. For birds and such I think you did good though!

June 24, 2018, 09:30 PM	#4
heavybarrel Junior Member Join Date: June 11, 2018 Posts: 11	Thanks for that web site, looks like this one was made September 2002 based on the stamping on the barrel. If I just go by the s/n it would be 1983 and I don't think it is that old. I had not planned to use the 28" barrel for HD, will be finding something hopefully in he 20" area though Midway has several 18's from Remington and Mossberg for the 870, stocks too. I'll probably spend more on these mods than I did buying the gun. I'll keep the long barrel though if I want to go do some wing shooting. I always make a point of things like max available magazine size, no interest in getting written up over something like that. I'll probably go find a second 12 gauge since I'm one of those people who likes to have at least two of everything. Then I can dedicate one to HD and the other to clays or a little hunting. HB

June 25, 2018, 05:12 PM	#7
heavybarrel Junior Member Join Date: June 11, 2018 Posts: 11	No place here to shop really. Academy doesn't keep them I'll be damned if I set foot in Dicks again ever. Locals don't seem to keep them. Bass Pro maybe but that's 80 miles away. Scary part is that I live in a busy growing town and should be able to find this stuff. I'll check Midway again. I just like the pistol grip for this kind of shorter barrelled shotgun. On my rifles other than an AR I use the more typical stocks except for a heavy .308. HB

June 28, 2018, 11:20 PM	#9
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,300	18" barrel At one time, Mossberg (yes, Mossberg) made 18" bead sighted 12 ga barrels for the 870, and sold them affordably. Whether they are still available I cannot advise. I would see them in the big parts supply catalogs like Midway and Graff's.

July 4, 2018, 01:18 AM	#10
RMcL Senior Member Join Date: May 7, 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 273	Have the barrel... ,,,professionally shortened. https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/vie...p?f=12&t=36237 Mike Orlen does excellent work at very reasonable prices. Frankly, having a vent rib barrel shortened and fitted for remchoke tubes makes a very handy and versatile shotgun. Remington vent ribs are the toughest in the business and make for a great bead on a flat sight flash sight picture, ( o ) Last edited by RMcL; July 4, 2018 at 08:57 PM.