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March 22, 2012, 10:26 AM | #26 |
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Everybody has a right to there own opinion, but I have to say some of the ones that say they don't like or dont have a use for it, the tones seems like "I don't like or need it so nobody else should either" and almost as it should be illegal. Just remember that how the antigun crowd feels about air rifles. I welcome all things firearm related even if I don't have a use for it myself.
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As far as those who don't like it, as you stated: Quote:
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BigMikey, while you were proofreading his post for spelling errors you missed the words
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I for one like my NFA toys. I can see how a bumpfire stock could be fun and about 3000 times cheaper than a transferable M16. That said, I'm not buying one.
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Willie - I didn't miss the fact that he specifically referred to the "tone" of previous posts. I am simply saying that his comment "almost as it should be illegal," is baseless. I agree that the tones of many posts have an, "If I don't want it no body else should" sentiment about them, but that is quite different from the suggestion that it should be against the law, and folks getting worked up over something that hasn't even been said is one of the most common sources of arguements that aren't worth having.
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March 22, 2012, 11:44 AM | #30 |
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Now, having said all that, I think I am leading this thread away from it's original intent, so I'm gonna shut up now.
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March 22, 2012, 12:24 PM | #31 |
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Bumpfire!
Do these things work off the bench? That might be cool. On the bench, just loosen your hold a little, and it will just sort of happen, at least with an AR.
The way the RO acted, I figured it must already be illegal! Anybody else had to open theirs up and show the trigger group? |
March 22, 2012, 01:43 PM | #32 |
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You could always upgrade to a Travis Haley trigger finger instead. That way you could simulate full-auto fire on any semi-auto firearm you touch.
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March 22, 2012, 03:01 PM | #33 |
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BigMikey76 thank you for correcting my proper use of there and their. I am going to blame it on the iPhone that wants to auto correct every other word, or my South Carolina public education.......lol
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I made a gizmo based on what I saw online that allowed me to bumpfire my Beretta Storm carbine, but the problem was it did not give much support to the rear of the stock and it took about a second after the firing started to get back on target. That was a lot of time when you are shooting a 1000-1200 rpm rate of fire and only have a 20 round magazine. The rate of fire was timed with a pact timer. It was a lot of fun and 9mm ammo was $3.50 a box. Then somebody kindly pointed out that the rate of and lack of a locking chamber could make for some unintended exciting circumstances...and so I game up on the Storm. Accuracy was fine. The challenge was marksmanship. Slidefire reduces a lot of the challenge to marksmanship by given the the gun and more stable platform.
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March 22, 2012, 04:23 PM | #35 |
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It is a fun gadget but that is all it is. Hard to control with out a ton of practice and not very accurate in my opinion. Good luck and have fun.
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March 23, 2012, 12:14 AM | #36 |
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Didn't Strumgewehr review the slidefire stock a while back? He has a M16 too. Need to ask him how they compare.
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March 23, 2012, 12:36 AM | #37 |
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I was actually firing a friends today.... Would I buy one.... nah... but it does work well. Anyone can bumpfire from the hip... but the Slide Fire makes it A LOT more controllable.
Sure it was fun to pretend to use full auto. But this stock really shines at is short controlled bursts. It was easy to do 3 round bursts into a target. |
March 23, 2012, 06:15 AM | #38 |
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I kind of looked through the posts and had to chuckle. I dont think theres a single negetive post from anyone thats actually shot one. I hear that there not accurate or controlable but again from no one thats actually tried it. Fact is there very controlable. Just as controlable as any full auto gun if not more. Fact is that its fun. Like i said in my previous post ive yet to have anyone of any age not smile like a child after shooting mine. Personaly i think ANYONE that is a real gun nut would walk away with anything negetive to say about it after ACTUALLY shooting one.
Sure they dont give them away. 300 bucks isnt chicken scratch. But how many hear dont hesitate to spend twice that on a scope, a piece of chrome for there harley or have a wife that will spend that much in 5 minutes in a shoe store. As to ammo cost. Nobody says you have to shoot it every day. It has a locking device on it to make it shoot just like any other ar if you want to shoot it normaly. Yes ive put alot of ammo through mine. Even the fact that i handload doesnt make it cheap. Probably 3/4s of that ammo has been put through it by friends, family, the local sheriffs dept ect. Was it expensive? yup a little bit but it was worth it to me to see the smiles on peoples faces. How many things in your life do you buy that arent really needed. How many do you buy just because its fun. You dont need an expensive cable tv package, a motorcyle, jeep, snowmobile, 4 wheeler ect. you buy them because there fun. Why do people have to single out a bump fire stock as something thats stupid when its nothing but fun. I dont think anyone buys one figuring on going to war with it. Id bet most are bought by guys like me that want to experience full auto fire but dont have 3k to spend on a full auto gun. Show me a cheaper way to be able to do it controlably and id be all over it. this post kind of reminds me of alot of others. You have people that know and people who dont have a clue and post that something is useless or no good without even have tried it. I call them internet experts. |
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I had fun shooting the slide fire on an AR and honestly I plan on getting one, I shot it as if it were burst fire rather than laying down full auto. It's about a 30 min swap out tops and you can always revert back to the original if you don't feel like dumping ammo at the range that day. Worth it in my opinion. Better than a lot of riduculous tacticool mods I've seen money wasted on.
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I read this post and had to chuckle. It sounds like you're getting rather defensive of your decision to purchase this stock because several people said they wouldn't buy it. I don't think that anybody here posted saying the the OP shouldn't buy it. They only posted that they wouldn't buy it then gave their reasons why they wouldn't. If you bought it and like it cool. If it floats your boat then keep at it. Personally I'd find a $300 scope more functional than a stock that lets me bump fire. The $300 scope would allow me to make more accurate shots out at distances that my own poor eyesight won't allow me to. I don't own a motorcycle (or specifically a Harley) so I can't say anything about that. My wife has spent $300 (and more) on shoes or other clothing articles and while I share my bedroom with my gun and my wife I share my bed with my wife. I see the money as a good investment in keeping my wife happy which I'm sure if you're married you can understand the importance of that. In the end the choice is to be made by the choice maker. Opinions and information was asked for. That was what was given. Enjoy your slide stock. I'll enjoy my new scope and my happy wife.
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March 24, 2012, 04:54 PM | #41 |
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Slide Fire Worth it Or NOT
I fell into the hype, been bump firing long enough that the thrill was gone. In recent months my health is getting worse and to be honest I didn't want to leave money to a bunch of kids that are too lazy to work, that being said I bought one for the AK. When the box came in there was absolutely nothing included as for any type of instructions, which it don't need, I did have one question so I called their phone. Young lady said that everyone was out and I could call back. Few days later I took the AK out for its testing, my stock had what I felt was excessive play in it and if proper forward pressure was not exactly held the most you could get to fire was maybe 3 - 4rds. I did send E-mail to company, a day or two later I got reply which really didn't address the issue I had. I will give the company credit that my phone range one day and gentleman from Slide Fire was on phone and had a rather extensive talk, he offered to have me send back the adapter that fastens to weapon for a replacement. I passed on it because I felt it was really an over priced toy that I made a mistake in buying. I have since sold it and now when I go out my back door I know that the revolver I bought with the money will work. I expect that within a year or so you will be able to buy these from users that have tired of it or just realized that it waste too much ammo.
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March 25, 2012, 03:08 AM | #42 |
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tthe bump fire thing is a lot of fun, especially when it is someone elses rifle.
But I perfer full auto. |
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In my Navy days I enjoyed the Thompson, BAR, M60 and 50BMG, but then I wasn't paying for the fodder I was putting downrange. Since I was assigned to the weapons I got to use them. Now that I'm many moons older and am paying for my own ammo and guns I can live without them. I would however like to own a fully auto Thompson. Of all the weapons I had the pleasure of getting to know it had to be my favorite. If I couldn't afford the Thompson an MP5 would work for me as well. Given the extra coin I'd put the money out on the real deal, but the slide fire doesn't really interest me. That doesn't mean it shouldn't interest other shooters, it just doesn't do it for me. One other thing. When shooting the real deal I never squeezed the trigger and dumped the box in one fell swoop. We always fired in bursts. Overheated barrels aren't worth a tinkers damn when push comes to shove. JMHO
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Hansam i will enjoy mine. My point was to bash guys who bashed the stocks. My point is that i just dont put much store in someone who bashes something theyve never even tried. Kind of like guys who bash mag rifles or handguns because they dont want to put in the time to master the recoil and then post that guys that have them are nothing but macho apes. Everyone doesnt like the same thing, thats obvious. Everyone isnt into guns as much as i am, thats a given. But threads like these bring all the internet experts out of the woods faster then a hunting ethics post. Everyone that has shot mine loved it. Did everyone that tried it go out and buy one? Hell no. Most of those who tried it think im about nuts for having more then one handgun or more then one deer rifle. guns arent the major hobby in there life like they are for me.
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I put one on a Colt AR in 9mm and within one mag had it running fine, dumping 32 rounds in a few seconds. The guy at the range who couldn't stop from asking what is was, ran through a couple mags the same way. We both were smiling and laughing so much we didn't realize how fast we went through a couple hundred rounds.The next day my sons and I went out and had a great time with it, all of us smiling and laughing and shooting away.
In my opinion adding a vertical forward grip helped greatly in getting the right touch for operating the rifle, as you have to push forward just a bit to get things going and keep them going. Is it cheap? No. But in our sport, I haven't found anything that is to be honest. We all spend money on different things, some seem silly to others and I'm no different. I spent $500 on a suppressor that I use now and then, and it's something fun and different for me. This stock is the same thing, another way for my family to enjoy something different in the shooting sports, which to us anyways, is why we shoot.
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Can this be modified to fire one hand?
Have to admit i am sorta impressed at how something almost so simple in principle works.. Anyway being somewhat of a novice, I have a question. From what i've seen, to use this, you push forward on the front grip and at the same time pull the trigger and let the recoiling does the rest. But if that is the case, then would seem like you can't fire this with just one hand. Not that you ever want full auto with one hand, but sometimes you need to be able to fire with one hand in emergency.
So the question is what is the feasibility of having a spring (in the anterior posterior orientation) within the stock so that you don't have to exert forward pressure on the front grip to fire? |
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When the Al-Qaeda hordes invade your shopping mall, and you need to lay down suppressive fire to take back the food court, this is perfect accessory for the Tactical Shopping Structure Ninjutsu Specialist and Security Operator®.
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September 14, 2013, 10:22 AM | #48 |
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It was illegal here before it was even invented, otherwise I would love to own one.
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So was still wondering what y'all think about what i suggest in the post above about having a spring inside the stock so you can fire one hand if needed in emergency.
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You can fire it one-handed, but just in semi-auto. You wouldn't want to even TRY to onehand anything in the AR platform in full rock-n-roll mode because - as much as Rambo would have you believe otherwise - you just can't control it.
Is that an ok answer?
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