NV Drops MI and NM Adds 10 Other States

Gary Slider · June 18, 2015, 02:05 PM

Nevada has put out a new list of states it will honor. They just changed their statute on how they would honor other states. First they dropped Michigan and New Mexico. No big public announcement just updated their listing. They now list these states with the all cap states additions to their original list. They did honor 14 now it is 22.

Alaska, ARIZONA, Arkansas, DELAWARE, Idaho (both types of permits), Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, LOUISIANA, MINNESOTA, MONTANA, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota (both types of permits), Ohio, OKLAHOMA, RHODE ISLAND, South Carolina, Tennessee, WEST VIRGINIA, WISCONSIN AND WYOMING.

They also did honor just the North Dakota Class 1 and the Idaho Enhanced. They now honor all the permit/licenses these two starts issue. You can view the listing at the below link. I didn’t link directly to the list as the cover page shows it is effective June 17. On that page click on “Click Here to View” to see the listing.
http://gsd.nv.gov/FeesForms/Brady/CC...t-Recognition/

www.handgunlaw.us will be updated late this evening or early tomorrow with the changes listed above. This will be the last update this month. There are numerous updates to states with law changes going into effect July 1.

csmsss · June 18, 2015, 03:29 PM

But still no TX. Maddening.

CowTowner · June 18, 2015, 04:17 PM

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But still no TX. Maddening.

I concur.

**Aguila Blanca** · June 18, 2015, 04:51 PM

Rhode Island? But not Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Connecticut, or New York?

Peculiar ...

Sharkbite · June 18, 2015, 05:07 PM

And still not Colorado. I wonder why?

wolfgunner5150 · June 21, 2015, 12:21 AM

Are all the states that are honored still resident only issue states?

**Aguila Blanca** · June 21, 2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfgunner5150

Are all the states that are honored still resident only issue states?

I think we can expect to see more and more states going this direction. It's unfortunate, but it's logical from the states' perspective, and its predictable.

This is why I am in favor of a federal law calling for universal recognition of other states' permits. I am aware of the counter-arguments, but I'm still of the opinion that it would do more good than harm.

Right now I hold permits/licenses from four states. At one time, that allowed me to carry in (IIRC) 34 states. That number is shrinking ... I'll have to spend some time on handgunlaw.us to see the current count, but I expect it will be under 30, and maybe under 25.

Gary Slider · June 21, 2015, 07:37 PM

Nevada law doesn't specify that it has to be a permit from your state of residence. Here is the law that just went into effect.

NRS 202.3688

1. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 2, a person who possesses a permit to carry a concealed firearm that was issued by a state included in the list prepared pursuant to NRS 202.3689 may carry a concealed firearm in this State in accordance with the requirements set forth in NRS 202.3653 to 202.369, nclusive.

2. A person who possesses a permit to carry a concealed firearm that was issued by a state included in the list prepared pursuant to NRS 202.3689 may not carry a concealed firearm in this
State if the person:

(a) Becomes a resident of this State; and

(b) Has not been issued a permit from the sheriff of the county in which he or she resides within 60 days after becoming a resident of this State.

rickyrick · June 22, 2015, 02:45 PM

Texas is disqualified by most states that honor other states permits because Texas will grant a license to veterans under 21

csmsss · June 25, 2015, 09:58 PM

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Texas is disqualified by most states that honor other states permits because Texas will grant a license to veterans under 21

That's simply not true. http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/texas.pdf

rickyrick · June 25, 2015, 11:04 PM

I suggest that you read the document that you posted

rickyrick · June 25, 2015, 11:16 PM

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Texas No Allows persons under 21-yrs-old to have license.
- See more at: http://www.atg.wa.gov/concealed-weap....4XbcgD9A.dpuf

Gary Slider · June 25, 2015, 11:41 PM

There use to be two states that would not honor Texas because of issuing to those under 21. Washington and Nevada. Nevada has changed their law and dropped that requirement. NV will not honor TX because NV can't confirm 24/7 if a TX permit/license is valid or not. Here are the requirements for Nevada to honor a state now.

1. On or before July 1 of each year, the Department shall:
(a) Determine whether each state requires a person to complete any training, class or program before the issuance of a permit to carry a concealed firearm in that state .
(b) Determine whether each state has an electronic database which identifies each individual who possesses a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm issued by that state and which a law enforcement officer in this State may access at all times through a national law enforcement telecommunications system.

Today Washington is the only state that will not honor TX because of issuing to those under 21. There law states

RCW 9.41.073 Concealed Pistol License — Reciprocity.
(1)(a) A person licensed to carry a pistol in a state the laws of which recognize and give effect in that state to a concealed pistol license issued under the laws of the state of Washington is authorized to carry a concealed pistol in this state if:
(i) The licensing state does not issue concealed pistol licenses to persons under twenty-one years of age; and
(ii) The licensing state requires mandatory fingerprint-based background checks of criminal and mental health history for all persons who apply for a concealed pistol license.

Other than Nevada and Washington there are only two other states that don't honor Texas that could. Maine and New Hampshire. Maine law will change in the next few months and their new law will state they will honor any state that honors them. It will be up to Texas then if they wish to honor Maine or not. Plus Maine's bill is still in play and Maine could go Permitless Carry this year.

New Hampshire Law states
Title XII 159:6-d Full Faith and Credit for Licenses From Other States; Reciprocity. –

Notwithstanding the provisions of RSA 159:6, no nonresident holding a current and valid license to carry a loaded pistol or revolver in the state in which he resides or who is a peace officer in the state in which he resides, shall be required to obtain a license to carry a loaded pistol or revolver within this state if: I. Such nonresident carries upon his person the license held from the state in which he resides; and II. The state in which such person is a resident provides a reciprocal privilege for residents of this
state. Source. 1993, 130:1, eff. Jan. 1, 1994.

I don't know what the hold up is on TX and NH. That could be TX and not NH that is stopping them from honoring each other. TX has some requirements before they will honor another state.

rickyrick · June 25, 2015, 11:59 PM

Thought there was more lol.

I knew wa and nv because I traveled both places.

csmsss · June 27, 2015, 07:42 AM

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Texas is disqualified by most states that honor other states permits because Texas will grant a license to veterans under 21

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I suggest that you read the document that you posted

And I would suggest that you take remedial English, because clearly you don't understand what you yourself posted. You said that Texas is disqualified by most states that honor other states permits, which can only be read to mean that most other states dishonor Texas permits. Since over 30 states honor Texas permits, your statement is simply ridiculous on its face.

rickyrick · June 27, 2015, 07:56 AM

But the states I knew of that did not honor Texas CHL did so because of the reason I had stated. New Mexico attempted to do the same thing, but failed after the casinos set empty for a week.

English is not my first language, I've worked real hard to learn it... I guess I'll try harder in the future. Thank you for the tip.

June 18, 2015, 02:05 PM	#1
Gary Slider Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2006 Location: New Martinsville, WV Posts: 432	NV Drops MI and NM Adds 10 Other States Nevada has put out a new list of states it will honor. They just changed their statute on how they would honor other states. First they dropped Michigan and New Mexico. No big public announcement just updated their listing. They now list these states with the all cap states additions to their original list. They did honor 14 now it is 22. Alaska, ARIZONA, Arkansas, DELAWARE, Idaho (both types of permits), Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, LOUISIANA, MINNESOTA, MONTANA, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota (both types of permits), Ohio, OKLAHOMA, RHODE ISLAND, South Carolina, Tennessee, WEST VIRGINIA, WISCONSIN AND WYOMING. They also did honor just the North Dakota Class 1 and the Idaho Enhanced. They now honor all the permit/licenses these two starts issue. You can view the listing at the below link. I didn’t link directly to the list as the cover page shows it is effective June 17. On that page click on “Click Here to View” to see the listing. http://gsd.nv.gov/FeesForms/Brady/CC...t-Recognition/ www.handgunlaw.us will be updated late this evening or early tomorrow with the changes listed above. This will be the last update this month. There are numerous updates to states with law changes going into effect July 1. __________________ ___________ Gary Slider Co-Owner Handgunlaw.us Member Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network.

June 21, 2015, 12:21 AM	#6
wolfgunner5150 Junior Member Join Date: June 26, 2002 Location: Utah Posts: 12	Are all the states that are honored still resident only issue states? Last edited by wolfgunner5150; June 21, 2015 at 09:48 AM.

June 21, 2015, 07:37 PM	#8
Gary Slider Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2006 Location: New Martinsville, WV Posts: 432	Nevada law doesn't specify that it has to be a permit from your state of residence. Here is the law that just went into effect. NRS 202.3688 1. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 2, a person who possesses a permit to carry a concealed firearm that was issued by a state included in the list prepared pursuant to NRS 202.3689 may carry a concealed firearm in this State in accordance with the requirements set forth in NRS 202.3653 to 202.369, nclusive. 2. A person who possesses a permit to carry a concealed firearm that was issued by a state included in the list prepared pursuant to NRS 202.3689 may not carry a concealed firearm in this State if the person: (a) Becomes a resident of this State; and (b) Has not been issued a permit from the sheriff of the county in which he or she resides within 60 days after becoming a resident of this State. __________________ ___________ Gary Slider Co-Owner Handgunlaw.us Member Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network.

June 22, 2015, 02:45 PM	#9
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,238	Texas is disqualified by most states that honor other states permits because Texas will grant a license to veterans under 21 __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

June 25, 2015, 11:04 PM	#11
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,238	I suggest that you read the document that you posted __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

June 18, 2015, 03:29 PM	#2
csmsss Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 3,078	But still no TX. Maddening.

June 18, 2015, 04:51 PM	#4
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,468	Rhode Island? But not Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Connecticut, or New York? Peculiar ...

June 18, 2015, 05:07 PM	#5
Sharkbite Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2013 Location: Western slope of Colorado Posts: 3,679	And still not Colorado. I wonder why?

June 25, 2015, 11:41 PM	#13
Gary Slider Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2006 Location: New Martinsville, WV Posts: 432	There use to be two states that would not honor Texas because of issuing to those under 21. Washington and Nevada. Nevada has changed their law and dropped that requirement. NV will not honor TX because NV can't confirm 24/7 if a TX permit/license is valid or not. Here are the requirements for Nevada to honor a state now. 1. On or before July 1 of each year, the Department shall: (a) Determine whether each state requires a person to complete any training, class or program before the issuance of a permit to carry a concealed firearm in that state . (b) Determine whether each state has an electronic database which identifies each individual who possesses a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm issued by that state and which a law enforcement officer in this State may access at all times through a national law enforcement telecommunications system. Today Washington is the only state that will not honor TX because of issuing to those under 21. There law states RCW 9.41.073 Concealed Pistol License — Reciprocity. (1)(a) A person licensed to carry a pistol in a state the laws of which recognize and give effect in that state to a concealed pistol license issued under the laws of the state of Washington is authorized to carry a concealed pistol in this state if: (i) The licensing state does not issue concealed pistol licenses to persons under twenty-one years of age; and (ii) The licensing state requires mandatory fingerprint-based background checks of criminal and mental health history for all persons who apply for a concealed pistol license. Other than Nevada and Washington there are only two other states that don't honor Texas that could. Maine and New Hampshire. Maine law will change in the next few months and their new law will state they will honor any state that honors them. It will be up to Texas then if they wish to honor Maine or not. Plus Maine's bill is still in play and Maine could go Permitless Carry this year. New Hampshire Law states Title XII 159:6-d Full Faith and Credit for Licenses From Other States; Reciprocity. – Notwithstanding the provisions of RSA 159:6, no nonresident holding a current and valid license to carry a loaded pistol or revolver in the state in which he resides or who is a peace officer in the state in which he resides, shall be required to obtain a license to carry a loaded pistol or revolver within this state if: I. Such nonresident carries upon his person the license held from the state in which he resides; and II. The state in which such person is a resident provides a reciprocal privilege for residents of this state. Source. 1993, 130:1, eff. Jan. 1, 1994. I don't know what the hold up is on TX and NH. That could be TX and not NH that is stopping them from honoring each other. TX has some requirements before they will honor another state. __________________ ___________ Gary Slider Co-Owner Handgunlaw.us Member Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network.

June 25, 2015, 11:59 PM	#14
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,238	Thought there was more lol. I knew wa and nv because I traveled both places. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

June 27, 2015, 07:56 AM	#16
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,238	But the states I knew of that did not honor Texas CHL did so because of the reason I had stated. New Mexico attempted to do the same thing, but failed after the casinos set empty for a week. English is not my first language, I've worked real hard to learn it... I guess I'll try harder in the future. Thank you for the tip. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!