870 or Mossberg?

mp25ds4 · April 16, 2009, 09:01 PM

simple question
which would be better for home defense?

TxGun · April 16, 2009, 09:09 PM

This is a once-a-week question. It's all personal opinion and you'll find about as many will vote for one as for the other. Both have a track record you can trust. If you are looking to buy, then try both, and get the one you like best.

Kmar40 · April 16, 2009, 09:21 PM

Once a week? Once a day. He doesn't have to search, he just has to SCROLL DOWN to see the last 4 or 5 discussions.

hogdogs · April 16, 2009, 09:23 PM

The po' folk are voting early it seems!
Brent

Stinkfactor20 · April 16, 2009, 09:37 PM

Coke or Pepsi? Same difference. Get what you like. I prefer Mossberg, but that's just me. It has more to do with my being a contrarian (spelling?) against the veverable 870 that so many love. You can probably save a few bucks with the Mossy, but either will serve well. BTW, I prefer Pepsi.

roy reali · April 16, 2009, 09:37 PM

Remington 11-87!

sholling · April 16, 2009, 09:56 PM

I've owned a Mossy 500 and liked it a lot. It's a nice shotgun but it's not quite in the same league as an 870. A Mossy 590 would be a closer match and the prices are pretty close. Anyway for a simple home defense shotty any of the three will do just fine. Now if you're expecting armies of blue helmeted flesh eating Martian zombies I'd say spring for professional grade weapons like an 870 or a 590.

Brad Clodfelter · April 16, 2009, 11:11 PM

Well I started this same poll at a turkey hunting forum. I think I know what them boys will say.

870 by a landslide.

Brad Clodfelter · April 17, 2009, 10:37 AM

So far, it is completely the opposite from this poll here.

These boys know what works, and shoot tons of shells each year.

http://oldgobbler.com/TheForum/index...c,17255.0.html

sholling · April 17, 2009, 11:04 AM

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So far, it is completely the opposite from this poll here.

I think that's because they are completely different questions. There is no doubt in my mind that for a hunting situation that the 870 points a bit better. Both shotguns will happily digest thousands of rounds over a lifetime but the 870 (and the Mossy 590) are perhaps a bit more durable and would be better choices for a professional. But the OP asked about a SD/HD shotgun and a Mossy 500 will do that job just as well as an 870 for about $100-125 less, and can be had with both an 18" and a 28" barrel for $50 less than an 18" 870. That's money that can be invested in practice or a class.

snevensmores · April 17, 2009, 11:29 AM

As others have said, it probably doesn't matter. I've never shot a newer Mossberg, but their reputation is great. I own an 870 and am very proud of it.

If I were you, I'd shop around and just see if you can find a deal. You really can't go wrong.

Housezealot · April 17, 2009, 11:47 AM

huh, I preffer the mossberg but really thought the 870 would be way in the lead. a thought a lot of guys around here hated mossbergs, or mabey there is just a lot of lefties like me.

Delaware_Dan · April 17, 2009, 11:56 AM

I voted Mossberg due to saftey placement. I have owned both, and for HD I would grab the Mossberg.

Legasat · April 17, 2009, 12:23 PM

I chose a Mossy 590, but really, I don't think you can go wrong with either one. Both fine shotguns from good companies with long histories.

Good luck!

zippy13 · April 17, 2009, 12:56 PM

This may sound sacrilegious... I don't use a gun's safety, don't anticipate using one, and have no use for one. It's just one more thing to go wrong. When the bolt is is closed, I assume the gun is hot. Consequently, for my gun handling habits, the Mossberg's thumb safety is just something to get in the way. The only controls I want on a pump gun (beyond the cob) are the trigger and release. So, my choice would be between the Remington 870 Express and the Maverick 88. I voted for the R-870-Ex.

Okay, I do have some safeties that I use, but they're really hammer blocks. My S & W Model 52 Master, bullseye pistol is designed to allow dry firing practice when the "safety" is engaged.

colostomyclown · April 17, 2009, 01:20 PM

Not only are there so many variants and families of each gun, each individual gun always seem to has it's own chracter. The best gun is going to the one you're comfortable with, kbnow how to use ina high-stress situation and one you've broken in and prepared properly. Personally, I like the Mossberg configuration better and they are usually much cheaper. With a little TLC your garden-variety 500 can turn into a lifelong friend.

hogdogs · April 17, 2009, 01:30 PM

In think the current Rem fans have done give up on posting in the "what is better polls"...
Brent

bwheasler · April 17, 2009, 01:58 PM

I like Ford trucks too, but a Chevy will get you there. Mute point. Pick a brand and stay with. You need to know your gun better than your girlfriend. Although some days I can't decide which is more fun!

Brad Clodfelter · April 17, 2009, 03:42 PM

I can tell you this much if you would hand the 2 guns in this poll to a true machinist that could study each design and funtionablility of parts and what will last longer, the machinist would say 870 hands-down.

You guys are funny when you pick a Mossberg 500 over a 870 Express.

I'm still laughing!

Creature · April 17, 2009, 03:53 PM

Have used both in the line of duty. Bought a Mossberg 590A1 for my personal shotgun. Remington 870's are rugged....but the Mossy's ergonomics are FAR superior and they are just as rugged. Mossberg gets my vote.

sholling · April 17, 2009, 05:02 PM

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I can tell you this much if you would hand the 2 guns in this poll to a true machinist that could study each design and funtionablility of parts and what will last longer, the machinist would say 870 hands-down.

Laugh all you like Brad but I spent 20 years of my life as a tool maker (glorified machinist) and I can tell you that it has nothing to do with the purpose at hand. I've owned a Mossy 500. How many lifetimes will it have to last before it qualifies as good enough for home protection? We aren't talking combat here. Home protection. The odds are better that you'll kill yourself by slipping and breaking your neck than a 500 failing in a typical home defense situation. Its a decent shotgun. Not military grade but close. Nobody is saying that the 870 isn't a great shotgun - it is. It's just not that much better that it's a must have in a typical home.

By the way the military buys Mossy 590s now. That would be my choice if I had to go into a bad situation with a pump. The 870 would be my second choice, and I wouldn't feel at all naked with a Mossy 500.

Brad Clodfelter · April 17, 2009, 05:19 PM

Well your from California, you have an excuse.

Just kidding.

The 870 has stood the test of time. That is why over 9 million of them were sold. Repeat buyers on a lot of them, and word of mouth has spread the word. A national poll would reverse these numbers in a heartbeat.

Brad Clodfelter · April 17, 2009, 05:25 PM

Whether for home defense or for general hunting purposes, the 870 Express is the better gun for any application.

trigger happy · April 17, 2009, 05:32 PM

saying a Mossberg is better in any way just isn't true, it'd be like saying a Ford is as good as a Mercedes, the only way it would be better is if it was stolen because you wouldn't lose as much

Brad Clodfelter · April 17, 2009, 05:40 PM

saying a Mossberg is better in any way just isn't true, it'd be like saying a Ford is as good as a Mercedes, the only way it would be better is if it was stolen because you wouldn't lose as much
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You need to patent that phrase or send it in to Remington.

They just might use it in an ad.

View Poll Results: Better shotgun
Remington 870 express	108	52.17%
Mossberg 500	99	47.83%
Voters: 207. You may not vote on this poll

April 16, 2009, 09:01 PM	#1
mp25ds4 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Posts: 392	870 or Mossberg? simple question which would be better for home defense?

April 16, 2009, 09:37 PM	#6
roy reali Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2005 Posts: 3,248	None Of The Above Remington 11-87!

April 16, 2009, 09:56 PM	#7
sholling Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 1999 Location: Hemet (middle of nowhere) California Posts: 4,261	I've owned a Mossy 500 and liked it a lot. It's a nice shotgun but it's not quite in the same league as an 870. A Mossy 590 would be a closer match and the prices are pretty close. Anyway for a simple home defense shotty any of the three will do just fine. Now if you're expecting armies of blue helmeted flesh eating Martian zombies I'd say spring for professional grade weapons like an 870 or a 590. __________________ Proud Life Member: National Rifle Association, California Rifle & Pistol Association, and the Second Amendment Foundation. Annual Member: Revolutionary War Veterans Association (Project Appleseed) and the Madison Society.

April 17, 2009, 11:29 AM	#11
snevensmores Member Join Date: January 9, 2008 Location: IL Posts: 89	As others have said, it probably doesn't matter. I've never shot a newer Mossberg, but their reputation is great. I own an 870 and am very proud of it. If I were you, I'd shop around and just see if you can find a deal. You really can't go wrong. __________________ CZ 75B 9mm Duo Tone, Ruger 22/45 5.5" Bull Barrel .22, Savage Mark II .22LR, M44 Mosin Nagant, Remington 870 12ga Super Mag GO CARDS!

April 16, 2009, 09:09 PM	#2
TxGun Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Family ranch - Central TX. Posts: 467	This is a once-a-week question. It's all personal opinion and you'll find about as many will vote for one as for the other. Both have a track record you can trust. If you are looking to buy, then try both, and get the one you like best.

April 16, 2009, 09:21 PM	#3
Kmar40 Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 668	Once a week? Once a day. He doesn't have to search, he just has to SCROLL DOWN to see the last 4 or 5 discussions.

April 16, 2009, 09:23 PM	#4
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	The po' folk are voting early it seems! Brent

April 16, 2009, 09:37 PM	#5
Stinkfactor20 Member Join Date: January 24, 2009 Posts: 42	Coke or Pepsi? Same difference. Get what you like. I prefer Mossberg, but that's just me. It has more to do with my being a contrarian (spelling?) against the veverable 870 that so many love. You can probably save a few bucks with the Mossy, but either will serve well. BTW, I prefer Pepsi.

April 16, 2009, 11:11 PM	#8
Brad Clodfelter Registration in progress Join Date: January 26, 2007 Posts: 925	Well I started this same poll at a turkey hunting forum. I think I know what them boys will say. 870 by a landslide.

April 17, 2009, 10:37 AM	#9
Brad Clodfelter Registration in progress Join Date: January 26, 2007 Posts: 925	So far, it is completely the opposite from this poll here. These boys know what works, and shoot tons of shells each year. http://oldgobbler.com/TheForum/index...c,17255.0.html

April 17, 2009, 11:47 AM	#12
Housezealot Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 606	huh, I preffer the mossberg but really thought the 870 would be way in the lead. a thought a lot of guys around here hated mossbergs, or mabey there is just a lot of lefties like me.

April 17, 2009, 11:56 AM	#13
Delaware_Dan Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2008 Posts: 1,304	I voted Mossberg due to saftey placement. I have owned both, and for HD I would grab the Mossberg.

April 17, 2009, 12:23 PM	#14
Legasat Member Join Date: March 16, 2009 Posts: 60	I chose a Mossy 590, but really, I don't think you can go wrong with either one. Both fine shotguns from good companies with long histories. Good luck!

April 17, 2009, 12:56 PM	#15
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	This may sound sacrilegious... I don't use a gun's safety, don't anticipate using one, and have no use for one. It's just one more thing to go wrong. When the bolt is is closed, I assume the gun is hot. Consequently, for my gun handling habits, the Mossberg's thumb safety is just something to get in the way. The only controls I want on a pump gun (beyond the cob) are the trigger and release. So, my choice would be between the Remington 870 Express and the Maverick 88. I voted for the R-870-Ex. Okay, I do have some safeties that I use, but they're really hammer blocks. My S & W Model 52 Master, bullseye pistol is designed to allow dry firing practice when the "safety" is engaged.

April 17, 2009, 01:20 PM	#16
colostomyclown Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Posts: 613	Not only are there so many variants and families of each gun, each individual gun always seem to has it's own chracter. The best gun is going to the one you're comfortable with, kbnow how to use ina high-stress situation and one you've broken in and prepared properly. Personally, I like the Mossberg configuration better and they are usually much cheaper. With a little TLC your garden-variety 500 can turn into a lifelong friend.

April 17, 2009, 01:30 PM	#17
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	In think the current Rem fans have done give up on posting in the "what is better polls"... Brent

April 17, 2009, 01:58 PM	#18
bwheasler Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Indianapolis In Posts: 108	870 all the way I like Ford trucks too, but a Chevy will get you there. Mute point. Pick a brand and stay with. You need to know your gun better than your girlfriend. Although some days I can't decide which is more fun!

April 17, 2009, 03:42 PM	#19
Brad Clodfelter Registration in progress Join Date: January 26, 2007 Posts: 925	I can tell you this much if you would hand the 2 guns in this poll to a true machinist that could study each design and funtionablility of parts and what will last longer, the machinist would say 870 hands-down. You guys are funny when you pick a Mossberg 500 over a 870 Express. I'm still laughing!

April 17, 2009, 03:53 PM	#20
Creature Junior member Join Date: April 8, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,769	Have used both in the line of duty. Bought a Mossberg 590A1 for my personal shotgun. Remington 870's are rugged....but the Mossy's ergonomics are FAR superior and they are just as rugged. Mossberg gets my vote.

April 17, 2009, 05:19 PM	#22
Brad Clodfelter Registration in progress Join Date: January 26, 2007 Posts: 925	Well your from California, you have an excuse. Just kidding. The 870 has stood the test of time. That is why over 9 million of them were sold. Repeat buyers on a lot of them, and word of mouth has spread the word. A national poll would reverse these numbers in a heartbeat.

April 17, 2009, 05:25 PM	#23
Brad Clodfelter Registration in progress Join Date: January 26, 2007 Posts: 925	Whether for home defense or for general hunting purposes, the 870 Express is the better gun for any application.

April 17, 2009, 05:32 PM	#24
trigger happy Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2006 Location: Pensacola Posts: 759	saying a Mossberg is better in any way just isn't true, it'd be like saying a Ford is as good as a Mercedes, the only way it would be better is if it was stolen because you wouldn't lose as much __________________ "You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass" Admiral Yamamoto "You have enemies ? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life" Winston Churchill

April 17, 2009, 05:40 PM	#25
Brad Clodfelter Registration in progress Join Date: January 26, 2007 Posts: 925	saying a Mossberg is better in any way just isn't true, it'd be like saying a Ford is as good as a Mercedes, the only way it would be better is if it was stolen because you wouldn't lose as much __________________ You need to patent that phrase or send it in to Remington. They just might use it in an ad.