Help identify rare set of M105 High Standard pistols

HeliDork · February 26, 2016, 08:03 AM

I have a (4) piece collection of the M105 series which are not listed anywhere I can find. The unique thing is consecutive serial numbers across the different models. I read fewer than (10) sets were made. Liquidating for estate of a friend.

Model / Serial number
Flite King #2,600,018
Supermatic Tournament #2,600,019
Olympic #2,600,020
Victor #2,600,021

Guns are unfired and new in the factory boxes.
Please advise a value of the pistols.
Thank you,

mapsjanhere · February 26, 2016, 11:07 AM

Individually the guns might go for up to $1000 NIB. If you want to get an additional "set" value you might have to get some form of factory documentation and put it on a good auction. But getting in excess of $4000 for a set of .22 needs a truly dedicated collector.

T. O'Heir · February 26, 2016, 02:47 PM

Highly likely to have been special ordered and purchased as a set. Unfired and new in the factory boxes adds a bunch to the value, but you really need a professional valuation for an estate. (IRS wants their cut.)
Not seeing an M105 series.
Pop over here.
http://www.histandard.info/

kilimanjaro · February 26, 2016, 10:31 PM

Give the NRA a call and inquire about auction appraisals. Don't let them talk you into donating them.

James K · February 26, 2016, 10:54 PM

It would almost have to be a set assembled at the factory, though not as difficult as one might think. H-S numbered its handguns in a single series, so all those would have been numbered at nearly the same time, probably within minutes of each other. It would only have been necessary to make sure the different models reached the numbering machine in the right order.

Jim

mapsjanhere · February 27, 2016, 08:35 AM

The numbers are past the regular range, they stopped using long numbers around 2,500,000, and went to prefixes. So it's definitely a factory series.

James K · February 27, 2016, 03:27 PM

Hmmm. I never thought of that. Is it possible that those were the last of the series before they went to prefixes, and that is why someone went to some trouble to preserve them as a set?

Jim

HeliDork · February 27, 2016, 10:57 PM

Thanks guys for the input! I'm new to here, and this is a terrific site.
I emailed the guy at highstandard.info but haven't heard anything in over a week and a 1/2.
I will try the NRA Monday.
The fact that I find no listings for M105 series amongst the Highstandard info is sort of wild.

Here is a link to my pics of some interesting guns I have to liquidate.
Pics of collectibles

RJay · February 27, 2016, 11:33 PM

It may not be a special series, It may have been assembled by someone who workd there or someone who had special pull there. In separate boxes and not together in a single fitted box, I would guess that is the case.

Jim Watson · February 28, 2016, 12:29 PM

The High Standards are interesting.

The gaudy American Historical Foundation guns will probably be hard to move and not bring in the amount of money you expect.

HeliDork · February 28, 2016, 01:28 PM

I completely agree. This is an estate of a friend that I am commissioned with selling. I explained to the family, had they been special editions from the Mfg. they would be worth something notable.

But I do believe the Highstandard pistols are worth something.
Also have new in the case a Beretta 471EL SilverHawk that was $8,000 new.
I am authorized to sell it for $4,800.

Different world than the Custom AR15s I build!

John Stimson · June 15, 2016, 05:34 PM

The 105 series was a Houston Texas High Standard marketing gimmick. Scarce but few if any care.

http://www.highstandard.info/models/.../1178D150R.pdf

http://www.highstandard.info/models/.../1179D150R.pdf

gyvel · June 15, 2016, 05:48 PM

Quote:

The 105 series was a Houston Texas High Standard marketing gimmick. Scarce but few if any care.

But interesting, nevertheless.

gyvel · June 16, 2016, 04:21 AM

As an afterthought, were these by any chance one of Don Mitchell's brain children?

February 26, 2016, 08:03 AM	#1
HeliDork Junior Member Join Date: February 26, 2016 Posts: 3	Help identify rare set of M105 High Standard pistols I have a (4) piece collection of the M105 series which are not listed anywhere I can find. The unique thing is consecutive serial numbers across the different models. I read fewer than (10) sets were made. Liquidating for estate of a friend. Model / Serial number Flite King #2,600,018 Supermatic Tournament #2,600,019 Olympic #2,600,020 Victor #2,600,021 Guns are unfired and new in the factory boxes. Please advise a value of the pistols. Thank you,

February 26, 2016, 02:47 PM	#3
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Highly likely to have been special ordered and purchased as a set. Unfired and new in the factory boxes adds a bunch to the value, but you really need a professional valuation for an estate. (IRS wants their cut.) Not seeing an M105 series. Pop over here. http://www.histandard.info/ __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

February 27, 2016, 08:35 AM	#6
mapsjanhere Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,832	The numbers are past the regular range, they stopped using long numbers around 2,500,000, and went to prefixes. So it's definitely a factory series. __________________ I used to love being able to hit hard at 1000 yards. As I get older I find hitting a mini ram at 200 yards with the 22 oddly more satisfying.

February 27, 2016, 11:33 PM	#9
RJay Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,936	It may not be a special series, It may have been assembled by someone who workd there or someone who had special pull there. In separate boxes and not together in a single fitted box, I would guess that is the case. __________________ Ron James Last edited by RJay; February 28, 2016 at 11:38 AM.

June 16, 2016, 04:21 AM	#14
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	As an afterthought, were these by any chance one of Don Mitchell's brain children? __________________ As always, YMMV. __________________________________________ MIIAA SIFE

February 26, 2016, 11:07 AM	#2
mapsjanhere Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,832	Individually the guns might go for up to $1000 NIB. If you want to get an additional "set" value you might have to get some form of factory documentation and put it on a good auction. But getting in excess of $4000 for a set of .22 needs a truly dedicated collector. __________________ I used to love being able to hit hard at 1000 yards. As I get older I find hitting a mini ram at 200 yards with the 22 oddly more satisfying.

February 26, 2016, 10:31 PM	#4
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	Give the NRA a call and inquire about auction appraisals. Don't let them talk you into donating them.

February 26, 2016, 10:54 PM	#5
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	It would almost have to be a set assembled at the factory, though not as difficult as one might think. H-S numbered its handguns in a single series, so all those would have been numbered at nearly the same time, probably within minutes of each other. It would only have been necessary to make sure the different models reached the numbering machine in the right order. Jim

February 27, 2016, 03:27 PM	#7
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Hmmm. I never thought of that. Is it possible that those were the last of the series before they went to prefixes, and that is why someone went to some trouble to preserve them as a set? Jim

February 27, 2016, 10:57 PM	#8
HeliDork Junior Member Join Date: February 26, 2016 Posts: 3	Thanks guys for the input! I'm new to here, and this is a terrific site. I emailed the guy at highstandard.info but haven't heard anything in over a week and a 1/2. I will try the NRA Monday. The fact that I find no listings for M105 series amongst the Highstandard info is sort of wild. Here is a link to my pics of some interesting guns I have to liquidate. Pics of collectibles

February 28, 2016, 12:29 PM	#10
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,528	The High Standards are interesting. The gaudy American Historical Foundation guns will probably be hard to move and not bring in the amount of money you expect.

February 28, 2016, 01:28 PM	#11
HeliDork Junior Member Join Date: February 26, 2016 Posts: 3	I completely agree. This is an estate of a friend that I am commissioned with selling. I explained to the family, had they been special editions from the Mfg. they would be worth something notable. But I do believe the Highstandard pistols are worth something. Also have new in the case a Beretta 471EL SilverHawk that was $8,000 new. I am authorized to sell it for $4,800. Different world than the Custom AR15s I build!

June 15, 2016, 05:34 PM	#12
John Stimson Member Join Date: September 18, 2006 Posts: 16	The 105 series was a Houston Texas High Standard marketing gimmick. Scarce but few if any care. http://www.highstandard.info/models/.../1178D150R.pdf http://www.highstandard.info/models/.../1179D150R.pdf

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