.357mag, 44 mag and 30 06 load data info?

rude robert · January 21, 2010, 12:08 PM

Hi, I had to do it and go buy come copper bullets from barns. I didtnt want to but i figured I better do it now. anyways i went to there site for load information and i dont show them using the same powder that i do. so, if you guys have any suggestion for h110 for both .357 mag 140 gr and 44 mag 225gr both are barns xpb bullets that would be great. oh, thats right I had to buy .30 bullets too for my 30 06. okay i bought 168gr bt tsx bullets because cabela's was out of the hornady. For the 30 06 i have imr 4350 powder for it. im just looking for something decent for these rounds. I dont want to experiment too much because I bought a box for each so I dont have a lot of rounds to spare and i really dont want to buy barns bullets anyways. thx for the info robert

**Unclenick** · January 21, 2010, 12:34 PM

Solids typically have higher start pressures than conventional construction, so charges often need to be reduced with them. The less dense copper also makes them longer so they need faster barrel twist than the same bullet weight does in jacket and core construction.

If someone here owns the Barnes load databook, perhaps they can give you a precise idea. Otherwise, I would call Barnes and just ask?

steelman762 · January 21, 2010, 01:22 PM

I think you can get the info on line at barns. Just google barns bullets something should lead you there.

Doodlebugger45 · January 21, 2010, 01:30 PM

Here is what is published in my Loaddata site, gleaned from various sources for your bullets using h110:
44 mag 225 gr Barnes XPB Hodgdon H-110 21.5 gr 1,402 fps
357 mag 140 gr Barnes XPB Hodgdon H-110 15.5 gr 1,245 fps
357 mag 140 gr Barnes XPB Hodgdon H-110 16.0 gr 1,260 fps

(Handloader Issue #244 - December, 2006)

I couldn't find data for the TSX bullet, but these should get you started on the 30-06

30-06 168 gr Barnes XLC BT IMR IMR-4350 55.5 gr 2,861 fps
30-06 168 gr Barnes XLC BT IMR IMR-4350 59.5 gr 3,064 fps (max load)
(from Barnes manual #3)

rude robert · January 22, 2010, 10:45 AM

thx doodle, for the info. when my bullets arrive ill try it out thx

January 21, 2010, 12:08 PM	#1
rude robert Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2009 Posts: 116	.357mag, 44 mag and 30 06 load data info? Hi, I had to do it and go buy come copper bullets from barns. I didtnt want to but i figured I better do it now. anyways i went to there site for load information and i dont show them using the same powder that i do. so, if you guys have any suggestion for h110 for both .357 mag 140 gr and 44 mag 225gr both are barns xpb bullets that would be great. oh, thats right I had to buy .30 bullets too for my 30 06. okay i bought 168gr bt tsx bullets because cabela's was out of the hornady. For the 30 06 i have imr 4350 powder for it. im just looking for something decent for these rounds. I dont want to experiment too much because I bought a box for each so I dont have a lot of rounds to spare and i really dont want to buy barns bullets anyways. thx for the info robert

January 21, 2010, 12:34 PM	#2
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	Solids typically have higher start pressures than conventional construction, so charges often need to be reduced with them. The less dense copper also makes them longer so they need faster barrel twist than the same bullet weight does in jacket and core construction. If someone here owns the Barnes load databook, perhaps they can give you a precise idea. Otherwise, I would call Barnes and just ask? __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

January 21, 2010, 01:22 PM	#3
steelman762 Member Join Date: January 18, 2010 Posts: 61	I think you can get the info on line at barns. Just google barns bullets something should lead you there.

January 21, 2010, 01:30 PM	#4
Doodlebugger45 Senior Member Join Date: April 15, 2009 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,717	Here is what is published in my Loaddata site, gleaned from various sources for your bullets using h110: 44 mag 225 gr Barnes XPB Hodgdon H-110 21.5 gr 1,402 fps 357 mag 140 gr Barnes XPB Hodgdon H-110 15.5 gr 1,245 fps 357 mag 140 gr Barnes XPB Hodgdon H-110 16.0 gr 1,260 fps (Handloader Issue #244 - December, 2006) I couldn't find data for the TSX bullet, but these should get you started on the 30-06 30-06 168 gr Barnes XLC BT IMR IMR-4350 55.5 gr 2,861 fps 30-06 168 gr Barnes XLC BT IMR IMR-4350 59.5 gr 3,064 fps (max load) (from Barnes manual #3)

January 22, 2010, 10:45 AM	#5
rude robert Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2009 Posts: 116	thx doodle, for the info. when my bullets arrive ill try it out thx