The lowest recoil on a high power rifle - Page 2

FirstFreedom · August 24, 2006, 06:12 PM

I'll note that the two ideas are of course diametrically opposed. But arguably the hardest-hitting-to-low-recoil-ratio round would be the .260 Remington out of a DSA FAL with muzzle brake. If I could only have one rifle, that'd be it.

buckster · August 25, 2006, 12:21 AM

The 7-08, 260, 257, should be good for the whole family.

Anthony Terry · August 25, 2006, 12:53 AM

Without reading anything but the first 2 post in this thread, I'll tell you that going a little heavy is the key to a hard hitter with low recoil. The remington 700 sendero is a great choice. My 7mm short mag will hit hard as you want and recoil felt is no more than a 243. I can shoot it all day with no pain. Thats because it weighs in at around 8 1/2 naked. It's a puppy to shoot and my gf weighs 102 lbs, shoots it all day and is recoil sensitive. My 30-06 a bolt makes her cry, so does her dad's 270 remington 700 adl. Weight and fit go a long way for recoil.

MNdeerHunter · September 14, 2006, 01:15 PM

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Oh yes... and it helps if you know how to read your own high school diploma...

I am a new poster here, but have read this fine forum for a long time. I am somewhat surprised that we have to do this kind of thing! Pointer, you might give the guy a break. Also he does have a good suggestion in mentioning the Chuck Hawk website.

Pointer · September 14, 2006, 01:49 PM

jaybirdhaffield said,

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The 30-06 was mentioned to you earlier and that was the worst advise for a first time family rifle. It hits harder than the .270

MNdeerHunter

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I am a new poster here, but have read this fine forum for a long time. I am somewhat surprised that we have to do this kind of thing! Pointer, you might give the guy a break. Also he does have a good suggestion in mentioning the Chuck Hawk website.

MNdeerHunter,
When a person "attacks" the opinions of others by saying that the advice they gave was the "worst advice" he opens himself up for a "flaming" from the fire he himself started...
If he had carefully read what others had said, he would have realized that the recommendations for the 30-06 were offered with qualifications...

I am normally willing to accept another's opinion like a gentleman... but for him to blatantly deny my, or anyone's, veracity, is tantamount to a demand for a duel... I wanted satisfaction... so I accepted his challenge...

I think there were others on this thread who stated their concordance with my assessment...

Thank you for pointing out this situation... I apologize for stepping on your sensibilities and I hope this clears it up and sets it right with you...

Pointer · September 14, 2006, 02:16 PM

Hank's Dad

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(Nice dig, Pointer, on the 270.

)

Thank you

UniversalFrost · September 14, 2006, 02:24 PM

For texas I would either go with a .243, 260 or the 25-06. If you plan on hunting anything larger (muley, northern whitetail) I would go with the .243, 260, 270.

My first deer rifle was a 98 mauser custom job in .243 and I still shoot it to this day. A .270 is a good all round caliber, but has much more recoil than my .243 running 85gr Barnes X bullets through it. Also if the kids or smaller wife is going to use it iwould definately go with a youth stocked rifle and grow them into it with a normal stock later (ebay and gunbroker have lots of new take offs for very cheap if you go with ruger or remington). Also the 7mm08 is a gret caliber as well as the 6.5swede, and should get an honorable mention, but didn't make my short list.

CaCrusin · September 14, 2006, 04:20 PM

There is another way to deal with the issue of excessive recoil. That way is the Knoxx Rifle CompStock, a drop-in replacement stock for most of the popular bolt-action rifles. With the CompStock, you can choose any caliber and load you need without concern for recoil. The recoil-reduction mechanism absorbs the "kick" and allows you to shoot even a .375 H&H without pain or flinching.

Visit the Website and watch the videos. You'll find your answers there.

454c · September 15, 2006, 01:26 AM

A 257 bob or a 260. Cut the stock down to fit the wife and keep a slip on recoil pad handy to add extra length for you. Make sure the gun fits her. We gun nuts will shoot a gun if it fits us or not. Most family members are not so enthusiastic.

youp · September 15, 2006, 02:46 AM

Lots of reasonable advice with the 243, 257, 260, & 7-08. Perhaps it is time to consider the platform.

I had the opportunity to fire a reduced recoil Browning BAR last year. The fellow had it tricked out for his wife. Muzzle brake and a large mercury recoil reducer under the super soft recoil pad. I watched as they shot it, he is on dissability with a neck injury. It seemed that their shoulders were recoiling as much as everyone elses. When I fired the gun it just did not give me the same impression of recoil. The gun and additions effectively reduced felt recoil by spreading it out.

This was a heavy gun and these people hunted deer from established blinds. I do not believe I would have cared to tote that rifle about the bush very far.

Point being a heavy rifle, a semi auto, and recoil reduction devices all work to tame the recoil. If you stick with a light bolt gun you will be sure to feel every bit of kick in the cartridge

steveracer · September 15, 2006, 06:29 AM

I bought one for my mom. Ruger Mk77 Mannlicher in 250 Savage. What a wonderful rifle!

Bert223 · September 15, 2006, 10:43 AM

I would go with .243 or 6.5 swede

DobermansDoItGoofy · September 15, 2006, 11:00 AM

When I was 12 - 14 yrs. old I used an old single shot 12 gauge shotgun that kicked like a mule...and I liked it ! One good thing about a .308 is that it is very versatile - maybe the most versatile of any round made. It has some recoil - but not a lot of recoil. A .243 is definitly more pleasant to shoot, but a little recoil is not necessarily a bad thing and might be a good thing for a young shooter to learn about and overcome. I have a 7.5 lb. Tikka in .308 that with a scope weighs about 8.2 lbs. It's pleasant to shoot. For a child or someone about 4-5ft. tall... I'd actually be more concerned about how the rifle fit. I'd recommend - if it's for the whole family - a Steyr Pro Hunter or Steyr Mtn. Rifle. It has an adjustable stock that is very simple and reliable. It will likely accomodate/fit all members of the family. In 308, it kicks a bit.
The best compromise in regard to recoil might be a 7mm-08.

FirstFreedom · September 15, 2006, 11:25 AM

nevermind - found the answer to my question.

Pointer · September 15, 2006, 08:41 PM

mrawesome22

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I'd go with .375 H&H MAG. clamped in a lead sled. Should be quite enjoyable then.

I almost missed your "shot"...

LOL

Does your "handle" come from this little joke?

MRDUCKS
MRNOT
OSAR!
MRNOT
MR2DUCKS
CMWINGS?
LIB
MRDUCKS!

For those who need help... PMME4 questions...

FirstFreedom · September 15, 2006, 10:31 PM

I heard it a tad different:

MRDUCKS
MRNOT
OSAR!
MRNOT
MR2DUCKS - CM WINGS?
LIB - MRDUCKS!

Pointer · September 17, 2006, 04:33 PM

Thank you
Corrections made

garryc · September 17, 2006, 05:03 PM

Very clearly the recommendation should be the Ruger #1 375 H+H Mag.

youp · September 17, 2006, 08:11 PM

MR Ducks

CDEDBD Wings?

Capp35 · September 17, 2006, 09:03 PM

243 or 7-08.

I personally prefer the 7-08. You can also find plenty of factory ammo for both of these.

I shoot a Weatherby Mark V in 7 Rem Mag and think it kicks the same as my Sako 30-06.

rem33 · September 17, 2006, 10:14 PM

L, mr,ducks
icdedbd wings

Amazing what a good recoil pad can do for felt recoil.

Magnum Wheel Man · September 18, 2006, 06:08 AM

well without even looking at the recoil table, I'd suggest a 243 or 7-08... but a 357 or 44 mag in a lever gun would also be a good choice ( my Marlin 44 mag lever was a real sweetheart to shoot before the gun was converted to 50 AE )... but for new shooters, the levers can be a bit more precarious as you need to chamber each round to unload the gun...

BTW... heres a link to the recoil chart...

http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

castnblast · September 18, 2006, 05:44 PM

yup....243 great family gun. For a bit more firepower, 25-06. light recoil, good for the game mentioned. you can reload some screamers in both for varminting without getting whacked.

Fish Head · September 19, 2006, 12:59 PM

What about trying a DPMS AR10 in .308 or AR15 in .223. As previously mentioned .308 is a good round for deer etc... and I have used a .223 on whitetail for 25 years with no problems. The AR style will give you the lack of recoil you want and the .308 should give you the ballistics you want. With a good scope you can hit what you aim at out several hundred yards and do it all day with no bruised shoulder.

FH

TPAW · September 19, 2006, 05:41 PM

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August 24, 2006, 06:12 PM	#26
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	addendum I'll note that the two ideas are of course diametrically opposed. But arguably the hardest-hitting-to-low-recoil-ratio round would be the .260 Remington out of a DSA FAL with muzzle brake. If I could only have one rifle, that'd be it.

August 25, 2006, 12:21 AM	#27
buckster Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2006 Posts: 674	Deer rifle The 7-08, 260, 257, should be good for the whole family.

August 25, 2006, 12:53 AM	#28
Anthony Terry Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2006 Location: Virginia. Posts: 673	Without reading anything but the first 2 post in this thread, I'll tell you that going a little heavy is the key to a hard hitter with low recoil. The remington 700 sendero is a great choice. My 7mm short mag will hit hard as you want and recoil felt is no more than a 243. I can shoot it all day with no pain. Thats because it weighs in at around 8 1/2 naked. It's a puppy to shoot and my gf weighs 102 lbs, shoots it all day and is recoil sensitive. My 30-06 a bolt makes her cry, so does her dad's 270 remington 700 adl. Weight and fit go a long way for recoil. __________________ Anthony...

September 14, 2006, 02:24 PM	#32
UniversalFrost Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,300	For texas I would either go with a .243, 260 or the 25-06. If you plan on hunting anything larger (muley, northern whitetail) I would go with the .243, 260, 270. My first deer rifle was a 98 mauser custom job in .243 and I still shoot it to this day. A .270 is a good all round caliber, but has much more recoil than my .243 running 85gr Barnes X bullets through it. Also if the kids or smaller wife is going to use it iwould definately go with a youth stocked rifle and grow them into it with a normal stock later (ebay and gunbroker have lots of new take offs for very cheap if you go with ruger or remington). Also the 7mm08 is a gret caliber as well as the 6.5swede, and should get an honorable mention, but didn't make my short list. __________________ Lifetime member VFW and NRA "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (when all else fails play dead) -Red Green Last edited by UniversalFrost; September 15, 2006 at 10:50 AM.

September 14, 2006, 04:20 PM	#33
CaCrusin Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2004 Location: Paso Robles, CA Posts: 115	Another Solution... There is another way to deal with the issue of excessive recoil. That way is the Knoxx Rifle CompStock, a drop-in replacement stock for most of the popular bolt-action rifles. With the CompStock, you can choose any caliber and load you need without concern for recoil. The recoil-reduction mechanism absorbs the "kick" and allows you to shoot even a .375 H&H without pain or flinching. Visit the Website and watch the videos. You'll find your answers there. __________________ Ca Crusin _________________________ SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM _________________________ www.knoxx.com

September 15, 2006, 01:26 AM	#34
454c Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2002 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 229	A 257 bob or a 260. Cut the stock down to fit the wife and keep a slip on recoil pad handy to add extra length for you. Make sure the gun fits her. We gun nuts will shoot a gun if it fits us or not. Most family members are not so enthusiastic.

September 15, 2006, 02:46 AM	#35
youp Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2005 Location: south of Canada, eh? Posts: 438	Lots of reasonable advice with the 243, 257, 260, & 7-08. Perhaps it is time to consider the platform. I had the opportunity to fire a reduced recoil Browning BAR last year. The fellow had it tricked out for his wife. Muzzle brake and a large mercury recoil reducer under the super soft recoil pad. I watched as they shot it, he is on dissability with a neck injury. It seemed that their shoulders were recoiling as much as everyone elses. When I fired the gun it just did not give me the same impression of recoil. The gun and additions effectively reduced felt recoil by spreading it out. This was a heavy gun and these people hunted deer from established blinds. I do not believe I would have cared to tote that rifle about the bush very far. Point being a heavy rifle, a semi auto, and recoil reduction devices all work to tame the recoil. If you stick with a light bolt gun you will be sure to feel every bit of kick in the cartridge __________________ Use enough gun.

September 15, 2006, 06:29 AM	#36
steveracer Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 123	250 Savage. I bought one for my mom. Ruger Mk77 Mannlicher in 250 Savage. What a wonderful rifle!

September 15, 2006, 10:43 AM	#37
Bert223 Member Join Date: May 23, 2005 Posts: 77	I would go with .243 or 6.5 swede

September 15, 2006, 11:00 AM	#38
DobermansDoItGoofy Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2005 Posts: 156	.243 - .308 When I was 12 - 14 yrs. old I used an old single shot 12 gauge shotgun that kicked like a mule...and I liked it ! One good thing about a .308 is that it is very versatile - maybe the most versatile of any round made. It has some recoil - but not a lot of recoil. A .243 is definitly more pleasant to shoot, but a little recoil is not necessarily a bad thing and might be a good thing for a young shooter to learn about and overcome. I have a 7.5 lb. Tikka in .308 that with a scope weighs about 8.2 lbs. It's pleasant to shoot. For a child or someone about 4-5ft. tall... I'd actually be more concerned about how the rifle fit. I'd recommend - if it's for the whole family - a Steyr Pro Hunter or Steyr Mtn. Rifle. It has an adjustable stock that is very simple and reliable. It will likely accomodate/fit all members of the family. In 308, it kicks a bit. The best compromise in regard to recoil might be a 7mm-08.

September 15, 2006, 11:25 AM	#39
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	nevermind - found the answer to my question.

September 15, 2006, 10:31 PM	#41
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	I heard it a tad different: MRDUCKS MRNOT OSAR! MRNOT MR2DUCKS - CM WINGS? LIB - MRDUCKS!

September 17, 2006, 04:33 PM	#42
Pointer Senior Member Join Date: April 8, 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 2,559	Thank you Corrections made __________________ . "Political correctness is tyranny with a happy face." Charlton Heston 30-06 FOREVER

September 17, 2006, 05:03 PM	#43
garryc Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2005 Posts: 2,536	Very clearly the recommendation should be the Ruger #1 375 H+H Mag.

September 17, 2006, 08:11 PM	#44
youp Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2005 Location: south of Canada, eh? Posts: 438	MR Ducks CDEDBD Wings? __________________ Use enough gun.

September 17, 2006, 09:03 PM	#45
Capp35 Senior Member Join Date: May 2, 2006 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 198	243 or 7-08. I personally prefer the 7-08. You can also find plenty of factory ammo for both of these. I shoot a Weatherby Mark V in 7 Rem Mag and think it kicks the same as my Sako 30-06.

September 17, 2006, 10:14 PM	#46
rem33 Junior member Join Date: March 31, 2006 Posts: 1,528	L, mr,ducks icdedbd wings Amazing what a good recoil pad can do for felt recoil.

September 18, 2006, 06:08 AM	#47
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	well without even looking at the recoil table, I'd suggest a 243 or 7-08... but a 357 or 44 mag in a lever gun would also be a good choice ( my Marlin 44 mag lever was a real sweetheart to shoot before the gun was converted to 50 AE )... but for new shooters, the levers can be a bit more precarious as you need to chamber each round to unload the gun... BTW... heres a link to the recoil chart... http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

September 18, 2006, 05:44 PM	#48
castnblast Senior Member Join Date: July 2, 2006 Location: Corpus Christi TX Posts: 1,148	yup....243 great family gun. For a bit more firepower, 25-06. light recoil, good for the game mentioned. you can reload some screamers in both for varminting without getting whacked. __________________ VEGETARIAN...old indian word for bad hunter

September 19, 2006, 12:59 PM	#49
Fish Head Member Join Date: August 31, 2005 Location: Centralia, Missouri Posts: 27	Or....the evil black rifle.... What about trying a DPMS AR10 in .308 or AR15 in .223. As previously mentioned .308 is a good round for deer etc... and I have used a .223 on whitetail for 25 years with no problems. The AR style will give you the lack of recoil you want and the .308 should give you the ballistics you want. With a good scope you can hit what you aim at out several hundred yards and do it all day with no bruised shoulder. FH

September 19, 2006, 05:41 PM	#50
TPAW Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2005 Posts: 2,860	PHP Code: `The lowest recoil on a high power rifle` When your in the prone position......... Couldn't resist.....