30-30 neck split for firing>?

45reloader · October 18, 2006, 05:09 PM

Has anyone ever had a neck split on a 30-30 reload.

I had 2 out of a batch of 35 that split during shooting.All round felt and looked normal. And no damage to the gun at all.

Was it just "old" brass.Winchester brass by the way with winchester primers.
170 gr Remington bullets.Reloader 15 was the powder 2 grains below max.

Peter M. Eick · October 18, 2006, 06:10 PM

I have had 30/30's split that were used a bunch. Sort of "par for the course" after a few reloadings if you full length resize them. Since I slowly tweaked my resizing down so I don't do much excess sizing I have found I get a lot more loads out of them but they still split.

How many loadings did you get before they split?

azredhawk44 · October 18, 2006, 06:49 PM

30-30 is really thin brass... I'm lucky to get 5 loadings out of my brass.

I'm also pretty glad that: #1 - Winchester 170gr silvertip retail shoots very well in both of my 94's and #2 - That load is relatively inexpensive at walmart. When deer season sales hit, I pick up 5-10 boxes each year to stock up on lazy ammo and brass.

When loading, I tend to crumple the shoulder before any other damage occurs though. Especially when using bullets with a sharp, non-beveled base. I've had maybe half a dozen split in the last 3 years of loading, out of maybe 1000 reloaded rounds done out of about 300 pieces of brass.

I think it's from too tight of a crimp when firing. I crimp the heck out of mine to eliminate any set-back from recoil when in the tube mag.

Paul B. · October 30, 2006, 02:57 PM

Azred. What I do is load and shoot my 30-30 brass four times, then anneal the case necks. Keeps them from splitting a lot longer. You might want to do it after the third reload.
When the Super K-mart was shutting their doors down here i Tucson, I bought up all the Winchester 30-30 170 gr. Powerpoints. Twenty-seven boxes at $4.00 a box. I got a bunch of .308 Win. and 30-06 on the cheap as well.
Paul B.

qajaq59 · November 14, 2006, 07:46 AM

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Azred. What I do is load and shoot my 30-30 brass four times, then anneal the case necks. Keeps them from splitting a lot longer. You might want to do it after the third reload

That is my routine as well. The annealing is easy and really worth doing.

October 30, 2006, 02:57 PM	#4
Paul B. Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 1999 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,801	Azred. What I do is load and shoot my 30-30 brass four times, then anneal the case necks. Keeps them from splitting a lot longer. You might want to do it after the third reload. When the Super K-mart was shutting their doors down here i Tucson, I bought up all the Winchester 30-30 170 gr. Powerpoints. Twenty-seven boxes at $4.00 a box. I got a bunch of .308 Win. and 30-06 on the cheap as well. Paul B. __________________ COMPROMISE IS NOT AN OPTION!

October 18, 2006, 05:09 PM	#1
45reloader Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2006 Location: PA Posts: 669	30-30 neck split for firing>? Has anyone ever had a neck split on a 30-30 reload. I had 2 out of a batch of 35 that split during shooting.All round felt and looked normal. And no damage to the gun at all. Was it just "old" brass.Winchester brass by the way with winchester primers. 170 gr Remington bullets.Reloader 15 was the powder 2 grains below max.

October 18, 2006, 06:10 PM	#2
Peter M. Eick Senior Member Join Date: August 3, 1999 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,991	I have had 30/30's split that were used a bunch. Sort of "par for the course" after a few reloadings if you full length resize them. Since I slowly tweaked my resizing down so I don't do much excess sizing I have found I get a lot more loads out of them but they still split. How many loadings did you get before they split? __________________ 10mm and 357sig, the best things to come along since the 38 super!

October 18, 2006, 06:49 PM	#3
azredhawk44 Junior member Join Date: September 28, 2005 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 6,465	30-30 is really thin brass... I'm lucky to get 5 loadings out of my brass. I'm also pretty glad that: #1 - Winchester 170gr silvertip retail shoots very well in both of my 94's and #2 - That load is relatively inexpensive at walmart. When deer season sales hit, I pick up 5-10 boxes each year to stock up on lazy ammo and brass. When loading, I tend to crumple the shoulder before any other damage occurs though. Especially when using bullets with a sharp, non-beveled base. I've had maybe half a dozen split in the last 3 years of loading, out of maybe 1000 reloaded rounds done out of about 300 pieces of brass. I think it's from too tight of a crimp when firing. I crimp the heck out of mine to eliminate any set-back from recoil when in the tube mag.