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Old May 21, 2005, 05:37 PM   #1
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where to buy german Flecktarn camo?

I've been wanting this camo for a LONG time now but only recently decided to break down and buy some. I've been searching but only found 2 stores online that have good deals on them. cheaper than dirt and the sportsman's guide. but i'm reluctant to buy from either, cheaper than dirt has everything at a low price but they do not carry the parka in medium size, and i'm not sure about the condition of the clothes compared to other stores(cheaper than dirt says they are in 'good condition' while the sportsmans guide claims their's are in 'excellent shape'). the sportsman's guide has everything i need, in the right size i need it in, but they are a rip-off if you choose a size other than small(or medium for the parka) :barf:.

could anyone suggest a good place to get this stuff? i plan on using it for a long time so i want the outfit in the best possible condition.

Sportsman's Guide:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=140671
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Old May 21, 2005, 08:15 PM   #2
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ummm not tryin to be a smart ass but $6 for a parka is a rip off?
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Old May 21, 2005, 09:02 PM   #3
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it's a bit steep if we are talking about german fleck. i would not mind paying under $20 for a whole uniform but i dont really like spending more if i can get it cheaper somewhere else.

sportsmans guide:

shirt size small $3.50
pants size small $2.50
parka size medium $2.50
total: $8.50

not bad at all, but i'm a size medium not small.

shirt size medium $7.50
pants size medium $5
parka size medium $2.50
total: $15

Cheaper than dirt:
medium size shirt $2
medium size pants $2
no medium parka.... LARGE parka $6
total: $10

looking at it this way it doesn't seem as if i am overpaying by much if i go with the sportsmans guide. but i'm sure there is a store that offers a better price, which is why i am asking.
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Old May 24, 2005, 09:26 PM   #4
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Damn...

looks like the sportman's guide is sold out.... still looking.
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Old May 24, 2005, 09:38 PM   #5
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I can't imagine it being worth anybody's time and money even to put the things in the warehouse for less than two dollars per piece of clothing.
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Old May 24, 2005, 10:49 PM   #6
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it is when you are buying the stuff for ten cents each.....

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Old May 24, 2005, 11:10 PM   #7
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http://www.tridentmilitary.com/WorldCamouflage.htm

http://www.worldcamo.com
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Old May 25, 2005, 05:49 AM   #8
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The CTD stuff is usually in good shape, Sportsman's Guide grading is usually very generous. I'd order one size larger than you normally wear, especially for the parka as they tend to run small. If your ordering from someplace that will pick or allows metric sizing, you need to know your metric measurements. They seem to have a lot more choices size wise than the standard US S-M-L and it doesnt always work out to well when they try to put them in the categories. I have a lot of the Flecktarn stuff and a number of the parkas. They are great three season coats, very comfortable, are wind proof and built like a tank. I work outside, mostly in the woods, and use one all the time.
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Old May 25, 2005, 05:00 PM   #9
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so you are saying the sportsmans guide probably has the same clothing as cheaper than dirt? i dont care as much about the price as i do about the quality. here is an email i got back from cheaper than dirt:



"I do not know how Sportsman's Guide rates their clothing, but our rating system is

NEW: All original but not "new," as you would find in a retail store. Near-perfect condition but may not have been issued to troops and may have been in storage for many years and have storage fatigue or marks. Generally does not include packaging, warranty or product information. Clothing has not been worn, appears in new condition, is not new in a sealed package and may be musty from storage.

Excellent: About 80% of original condition remains with no repairs or broken parts. Still works and functions completely, but you can tell it is not new. Clothing has been worn but is nice and presentable.

Very Good: All original, not refinished. Minor repairs, shows some wear, still functions as designed and is a good value. Not nice enough for a collector because of wear. Clothing has been worn and washed, has insignias removed or added, looks like a pair of faded jeans and shows wear. Can still be used as intended.

Good: May be refinished, frequently repaired. Hard surfaces show wear; cloth may be thinning and shows wear, use, repairs and fatigue. Can be used for service, but some parts, snaps, straps or clasps may fail. Clothing is suitable for hunting or paintball but too worn to be considered a dress uniform.

Fair: Very worn and has holes, broken zippers or parts missing. May be usable with some repairs that are still needed.




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Cheaper Than Dirt"


they rate their surplus in 'good condition'. i need the uniform soon but i dont know whether to wait until late july for the sportsmansguide to re-stock or just get it from cheaper than dirt...

i wear a size medium to small so i will order everything in medium unless you guys are sure large in germany means medium in the US.
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Old May 25, 2005, 05:54 PM   #10
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I wear a US large and always order an XL when I order the German stuff.(except the rain suits, they are cut fuller and are closer to US sizing) Its always better to have a little extra room, with the coats anyways, so you can layer and get a fleece or sweatshirt under them as the weather changes. I would order the larger size. Better to be a little loose than to tight. One thing about the pants. The inseam varies a lot with the three or four pairs I have. Some seem like they were cut short to wear bloused with boots while others are longer. Its all hit or miss. I just got a couple of pairs of coveralls in flecktarn from CTD and they were in great shape. Between CTD and SG, I've had better luck with CTD as far as the shape things are in. A lot of stuff I've got from SG over the years was pretty well wore out and had a lot of repairs.
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Old May 25, 2005, 07:15 PM   #11
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sixtyKaday, thanks for all the help. i'm glad the advice is coming from someone who actually has experience with the items and companies in question. i have made my decision, i'll order it from cheaper than dirt.

thanks again.
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Old May 25, 2005, 09:14 PM   #12
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cheaper than dirt is definately a more reliable source to buy from, and generally cheaper too. hence the name.
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Old May 25, 2005, 11:00 PM   #13
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That's good to hear considering the items are not returnable
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Old June 1, 2005, 06:16 PM   #14
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i got the clothes today . i'm pretty happy with them, right now i just took a look at them and they look alright, ill put em' on later tonight and see how they fit. the shirt looks brand new but the pants and parka were wrapped in plastic bags, they are kinda faded... but for under 10 bucks i'm not complaining ! i will post a couple pictures later to see if you guys could tell me if i got a good shipment, if not i'll order another set next time i buy from cheaper than dirt.
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