Help me find a M98 Action?

javven · March 21, 2010, 08:29 PM

I've done some searching and found old information - however, I'm looking for a current source of Mauser 98 (standard "long" length, not yugo 48) actions. I'd buy an entire rifle if need be - but I'd prefer to buy either a barreled action or bare action.

The project begins...

James K · March 21, 2010, 08:52 PM

I have seen actions for sale, but the sellers "accidentally" didn't mention that bolts were not included. I do see clunker Mausers that were cut down for hunting rifles, and that might be your best bet. Some may have scope mount holes or other alterations, but I don't know if you care about that or not.

Jim

Clark · March 21, 2010, 09:21 PM

I have bought Mausers from Century Arms.
I don't have an FFL and the web site will not automatically give me a wholesale price.

Find out who your salesman is.

Mine calls me all the time with deals, but all I want is Mausers for sporterizing.

This last year I got a number of 7mm Vz24s and Braz 1908 Mausers.

For a couple weeks I have been shooting a 1908 single shot in 25/35 loaded hot.

apr1775 · March 21, 2010, 09:42 PM

Keeping your eyes open for Bubba sporters will be your best bet. Sarco still avertises barreled actions; give them a try. Please don't tear down a good military rifle.

javven · March 21, 2010, 11:15 PM

First - I want to say thanks for the help. I did contact the folks at Samco via email. I prefer a full length action but an intermediate looks like it might be what I end up with. I am leaning towards a barreled action if only because it will save me some hassle.

I'm not ignorant enough to tear down something important. None of the setups I've looked at are historically important enough not to tear down and do whatever I wished with. One of 3 million issued, re-issued, re-built, re-stocked, re-blued, re-stamped...

On another note - I see 8x57's max COL is 2.228 whereas the 9.3x62 is 3.29. If I end up with an 'intermediate' length action will I be able to feed 9.3mm reliably when loaded near max COL?

roberto mervicini · March 22, 2010, 01:05 PM

Hi JAVVEN,
on your last post you stated : " I see 8x57 cartridge oal is 2.290.........." the measure you quote is more likely the lenght of the brass empty, on a yugo action 8x57 you could fit without modify the magazine cartridges up to 3.190" +- 2/100" and on german or czeck action ox57 like K98 you could go to 3.340" and some time a little more.
I only have one yugo action that I turn in to a sporter .308, but own several germans, cz and one brazilian that I sporterized in .270, 7x64, 8x64, and 9.3x62, some I left in the original chambering 8x57, and now I am looking for one more to build a .338 win. mag. ...hard to find actions at fair price in Canada...but impossible to bring in from U.S.A.!!!!
The days to just call sellers in the U.S.A. and give a ccard number for us are over ... too bad !!!
______
roberto

apr1775 · March 22, 2010, 01:58 PM

Is 9.3x62mm what you're planning on building? You will need a standard length action. If you build on a M48 Yugo action, 9.3x57mm would be an easy one.

javven · March 22, 2010, 09:21 PM

Roger - typo. Was referring to COL which adds an inch. 3.29 is what I found listed for cartridge LOA for 9.3x62. If 9.3x62's going to be too long - I may hold out for a full length model. What should I be looking for? I don't precisely have my heart set on this caliber - but I am looking for an 'intermediate' cartridge - something with some bullet weight but without too much in the punishment category.

Thanks!

roberto mervicini · March 22, 2010, 10:33 PM

Javven, I would look for a reg. lenght mauser 98 action, k98, CZ, VZ since the Yugo is a 1/4" shorter to start , ok if you want to build a .243, .308. 7x57 or 8x57 . On a classic mauser you could fit .270, 06, .280 , 7mm rem.mag, .300 win.mag. and 9.3x62.
Concerning the 9.3x62 cartridge it offer a good knock down power with a 296 grain tip, a little more flat trajectory with light bullets, the rifle itself if I must explain the recoil kick I would say that is in between of the 06 and the .300 and again provided all rifles waight the same and similar configuration.
The choice of the cartridge it depend of the type of usage you want to doo, in heavy timber the 9.3 is excellet , across a lake or long shot 250 300 yrds not so good. I have all the above but end up most of the time taking the .300 win mag to hunt.
_______
roberto

F. Guffey · March 22, 2010, 10:33 PM

I have no ideal what it would be like to not be able to locate a Mauser action in one hour with a phone call and a 60 mile round trip drive to pick it up, again I have no clue as to where you are located.

F. Guffey

Scorch · March 23, 2010, 01:26 AM

Here, that took me all of 10 seconds.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=323166
With a little more effort, you can find just about anything.

mapsjanhere · March 23, 2010, 07:20 AM

You can also get CZ actions brand new for around $500. If you're interested in a 9.3x62, there's a guy on gunbroker who's been advertising barreled Mauser actions in that caliber for a while.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=161328973

Clark500 · March 23, 2010, 10:02 AM

Rguns has them for $175.

http://www.rguns.net/rifles/rifles-bolt.shtml

javven · March 23, 2010, 09:31 PM

Sorry - I was also looking for information

I've run google up and down looking for suppliers and looked over several.

I've had nothing but good experience with Midway but I've never tried to buy anything that would require an FFL from them - like all they do I'm sure it's straightforward. I've also seen much cheaper... But like so many things it depends on what you get for your $. Sometimes you just get to spend more $ - something a simple search often won't reveal. Other times you get what you pay for.

James K · March 23, 2010, 10:47 PM

Well, plenty of standare length Mauser 98 actions were worked over for 7.62x63 and 8x63* with no problems. But the feed ramp has to be cut back and that is a not a lot of room to spare in an intermediate action. I would not use a Yugo M48 action for that caliber.

*In other words, .30-'06 and 8mm-06.

Jim

TX Hunter · March 24, 2010, 08:57 PM

MR Javin
GunBroker.Com often has Russian Capture M98 Rifles for sell,
the Russian Captured rifles are usually a little cheaper, because alot of the markings were ground off, by the Russians. You could buy one of these rifles often for as little a $300 strip it down to the action, and sell the rest of the parts to recoup some of your investment.
Good luck.
The Samco 24 47 barreled actions are also a good option, but I believe they are shorter than the 98K.

javven · March 24, 2010, 09:08 PM

Well - looking over the options, 358 Winchester actually looks pretty good. 9.3 is a -little- more than I want. Too, 358 looks like a possibility in either action length.

brucey44 · March 25, 2010, 07:33 PM

Check here: http://www.hoosiergunworks.com/catal...reference.html
GL I hope you find one.

javven · March 25, 2010, 08:02 PM

Yeah - that's a neat resource. Definitely food for thought.

March 21, 2010, 08:29 PM	#1
javven Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2009 Posts: 195	Help me find a M98 Action? I've done some searching and found old information - however, I'm looking for a current source of Mauser 98 (standard "long" length, not yugo 48) actions. I'd buy an entire rifle if need be - but I'd prefer to buy either a barreled action or bare action. The project begins...

March 23, 2010, 01:26 AM	#11
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Here, that took me all of 10 seconds. http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=323166 With a little more effort, you can find just about anything. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

March 23, 2010, 07:20 AM	#12
mapsjanhere Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,832	You can also get CZ actions brand new for around $500. If you're interested in a 9.3x62, there's a guy on gunbroker who's been advertising barreled Mauser actions in that caliber for a while. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=161328973 __________________ I used to love being able to hit hard at 1000 yards. As I get older I find hitting a mini ram at 200 yards with the 22 oddly more satisfying.

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brucey44 Member Join Date: March 9, 2010 Location: Melbourne, Florida Posts: 23	Check here: http://www.hoosiergunworks.com/catal...reference.html GL I hope you find one. __________________ Pellet Guns - BB Guns - Airsoft Guns

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March 21, 2010, 08:52 PM	#2
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	I have seen actions for sale, but the sellers "accidentally" didn't mention that bolts were not included. I do see clunker Mausers that were cut down for hunting rifles, and that might be your best bet. Some may have scope mount holes or other alterations, but I don't know if you care about that or not. Jim

March 21, 2010, 09:42 PM	#4
apr1775 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 425	Keeping your eyes open for Bubba sporters will be your best bet. Sarco still avertises barreled actions; give them a try. Please don't tear down a good military rifle.

March 21, 2010, 11:15 PM	#5
javven Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2009 Posts: 195	First - I want to say thanks for the help. I did contact the folks at Samco via email. I prefer a full length action but an intermediate looks like it might be what I end up with. I am leaning towards a barreled action if only because it will save me some hassle. I'm not ignorant enough to tear down something important. None of the setups I've looked at are historically important enough not to tear down and do whatever I wished with. One of 3 million issued, re-issued, re-built, re-stocked, re-blued, re-stamped... On another note - I see 8x57's max COL is 2.228 whereas the 9.3x62 is 3.29. If I end up with an 'intermediate' length action will I be able to feed 9.3mm reliably when loaded near max COL?

March 22, 2010, 01:05 PM	#6
roberto mervicini Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2007 Location: Laval, Quebec, Canada Posts: 151	Hi JAVVEN, on your last post you stated : " I see 8x57 cartridge oal is 2.290.........." the measure you quote is more likely the lenght of the brass empty, on a yugo action 8x57 you could fit without modify the magazine cartridges up to 3.190" +- 2/100" and on german or czeck action ox57 like K98 you could go to 3.340" and some time a little more. I only have one yugo action that I turn in to a sporter .308, but own several germans, cz and one brazilian that I sporterized in .270, 7x64, 8x64, and 9.3x62, some I left in the original chambering 8x57, and now I am looking for one more to build a .338 win. mag. ...hard to find actions at fair price in Canada...but impossible to bring in from U.S.A.!!!! The days to just call sellers in the U.S.A. and give a ccard number for us are over ... too bad !!! ______ roberto

March 22, 2010, 01:58 PM	#7
apr1775 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 425	Is 9.3x62mm what you're planning on building? You will need a standard length action. If you build on a M48 Yugo action, 9.3x57mm would be an easy one.

March 22, 2010, 09:21 PM	#8
javven Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2009 Posts: 195	Roger - typo. Was referring to COL which adds an inch. 3.29 is what I found listed for cartridge LOA for 9.3x62. If 9.3x62's going to be too long - I may hold out for a full length model. What should I be looking for? I don't precisely have my heart set on this caliber - but I am looking for an 'intermediate' cartridge - something with some bullet weight but without too much in the punishment category. Thanks!

March 22, 2010, 10:33 PM	#9
roberto mervicini Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2007 Location: Laval, Quebec, Canada Posts: 151	Javven, I would look for a reg. lenght mauser 98 action, k98, CZ, VZ since the Yugo is a 1/4" shorter to start , ok if you want to build a .243, .308. 7x57 or 8x57 . On a classic mauser you could fit .270, 06, .280 , 7mm rem.mag, .300 win.mag. and 9.3x62. Concerning the 9.3x62 cartridge it offer a good knock down power with a 296 grain tip, a little more flat trajectory with light bullets, the rifle itself if I must explain the recoil kick I would say that is in between of the 06 and the .300 and again provided all rifles waight the same and similar configuration. The choice of the cartridge it depend of the type of usage you want to doo, in heavy timber the 9.3 is excellet , across a lake or long shot 250 300 yrds not so good. I have all the above but end up most of the time taking the .300 win mag to hunt. _______ roberto

March 22, 2010, 10:33 PM	#10
F. Guffey Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2008 Posts: 7,249	I have no ideal what it would be like to not be able to locate a Mauser action in one hour with a phone call and a 60 mile round trip drive to pick it up, again I have no clue as to where you are located. F. Guffey

March 23, 2010, 10:02 AM	#13
Clark500 Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2010 Posts: 168	Rguns has them for $175. http://www.rguns.net/rifles/rifles-bolt.shtml

March 23, 2010, 09:31 PM	#14
javven Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2009 Posts: 195	Sorry - I was also looking for information I've run google up and down looking for suppliers and looked over several. I've had nothing but good experience with Midway but I've never tried to buy anything that would require an FFL from them - like all they do I'm sure it's straightforward. I've also seen much cheaper... But like so many things it depends on what you get for your $. Sometimes you just get to spend more $ - something a simple search often won't reveal. Other times you get what you pay for.

March 23, 2010, 10:47 PM	#15
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Well, plenty of standare length Mauser 98 actions were worked over for 7.62x63 and 8x63* with no problems. But the feed ramp has to be cut back and that is a not a lot of room to spare in an intermediate action. I would not use a Yugo M48 action for that caliber. *In other words, .30-'06 and 8mm-06. Jim

March 24, 2010, 08:57 PM	#16
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	MR Javin GunBroker.Com often has Russian Capture M98 Rifles for sell, the Russian Captured rifles are usually a little cheaper, because alot of the markings were ground off, by the Russians. You could buy one of these rifles often for as little a $300 strip it down to the action, and sell the rest of the parts to recoup some of your investment. Good luck. The Samco 24 47 barreled actions are also a good option, but I believe they are shorter than the 98K.

March 24, 2010, 09:08 PM	#17
javven Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2009 Posts: 195	Well - looking over the options, 358 Winchester actually looks pretty good. 9.3 is a -little- more than I want. Too, 358 looks like a possibility in either action length.

March 25, 2010, 08:02 PM	#19
javven Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2009 Posts: 195	Yeah - that's a neat resource. Definitely food for thought.