"single shot" revolver

newworldCurmudgeon · January 27, 2006, 10:10 AM

About 5 years ago, I was in a gunshop, and the gunsmith had a "single shot" revolver. let me explain

It looked like a SAA, but was a topbreak, single shot, but it had the weight of a SAA. Has anyone else seen or heard of a pistol like this? I figure it would be good for introducing new people to shooting, but I do not know who the manufactered this pistol

Thanks in advance

deadin · January 27, 2006, 10:58 AM

Are you sure it was a top-break? Savage made a single-shot .22 that looked like a SAA but the single-shot "cylinder" and intregal barrel swung out to the side for loading. It was a Model 101, made from 1960 to 1968.

Dean

Quantrill · January 27, 2006, 11:26 AM

Ruger made a SAA looking single shot a few years back. Probably used a blackhawk frame. I believe it was called the "Hawkeye" and was in .256 calibre. Quantrill

**Mike Irwin** · January 27, 2006, 11:54 AM

But the Hawkeye wasn't a topbreak, was it?

I thought the loading block tipped to the side.

Quantrill · January 27, 2006, 12:22 PM

Mike,
While I never had one,(heck! I never even saw one in person), I am pretty sure you are correct. The pictures I saw "looked" like the breach folded out similiar to a revolver cylinder. I know he said top break, I was just thinking of look alike factor of a SAA. Quantrill

deadin · January 27, 2006, 12:23 PM

Mike,
Right on the Hawkeye. Kind of like the Colt Camp Perry. Revolver frames, no cylinder. Just a "block" for loading.
The only top-break built on a revolver frame that comes to mind are the S&W single shots from around the turn of the century. And they didn't look anything like a SAA. (There also were the Sheridan and the S&W Straight Line, but they looked like Semi-Autos)

Dean

mete · January 27, 2006, 02:04 PM

Ruger Hawkeye, like a SAA, S&W Straight Line , like a semiauto, Colt Camp Perry, like a DA revolver and H&R ,a top break single shot ,designed from their revolver.

pipoman · January 29, 2006, 10:22 AM

My uncle had a sgl shot like this I saw when I was a kid, I always wondered what it was. I think it was a .22, I don't recall what the action was like. His had dummy rounds in the exposed cylinders when you looked at it from the front.

newworldCurmudgeon · February 3, 2006, 03:38 AM

Sorry work has kept me a little busy. Deadin it was a few years ago,and I am pretty sure it was a top break, I think it was the H&R mete talked about. Thanks again everyone

deadin · February 3, 2006, 09:24 AM

Could have been the H&R. They are not uncommon and aren't too bad a plinker. But, looks like a SAA?

Dean

newworldCurmudgeon · February 5, 2006, 08:00 AM

Deadin/Dean

I thought it was but it may not have been, what I definitly remember it was a top break, and looked and felt like a regular revolver (it was over three years ago) I thought it was a good idea for getting a new shooter used to shooting a "full sized" revolver without worrying about more than one shot.

I know I can just load one round in a revolver....and when I am with new shooters I will load empty cases with regular rounds, to see how their trigger control is. but there has been more than one that will take a shot and then turn around with the weapon....usually just because they forget about the safety rules..... I have modified how I teach new shooters....now i only concentrate on the four rules the first time I take them to the range, and basically ignore any fundementals of marksmanship. I would rather have a safe shooter versus an accuracte shooter, at least until I kow they will come to the range again....

thanks again for all the replies

deadin · February 5, 2006, 12:19 PM

Here's a link to a H&R USRA .22 SS. Is THis it?

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976677323.htm

Dean

newworldCurmudgeon · February 8, 2006, 06:45 AM

Dean, that is not it, however looking at the other H&R revolvers, I realise how my memory could be slipping.... this would be so much easier if:

1. I was back in the states (specifically Arizona) and
2. The shop I saw it in was still open.

If I remember right it was like Pipoman described, it had a cylinder ( don't remember if it had dummy rounds in it. Darn memory must be getting to me

Thanks again, I'll surf on for more info though

**Mike Irwin** · February 8, 2006, 10:27 AM

You know...

For some reason I'm thinking that Savage made a single-shot revolver look handgun in the 1950s...

Oh man, I'm hoping that I have the answer...

Savage made the Model 101, a single shot .22 that looked a LOT like an Old West revolver. It wasn't top break, though...

Jim Watson · February 8, 2006, 10:37 AM

The likely suspect is the Savage 101 although, as deadin says, it opens to the side, not topbreak.

Mendoza of Mexico also made a single shot .22 faked up to look like a SAA. Arizona seems a likely place for one to turn up.

Sheridan tried to branch out from air rifles and sold a single shot .22 pistol, the Knockabout. But it doesn't much resemble a revolver.

deadin · February 8, 2006, 10:45 AM

I forgot about the Mendoza. Anybody dredge up a picture or link?

Dean

**Mike Irwin** · February 8, 2006, 11:40 AM

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walter in florida · February 8, 2006, 09:25 PM

I have a Savage 101 and it is too small and very light. I only shot it 5 times and could not hit the side of a barn even if I was inside with the doors closed. Still got it and made a case to keep it in. It is in pretty good condition according to a gun collector/dealer. Smith & Wesson made a top break single shot (lst Model Single Shot) built on the frame of a 38 single action. only 1251 were made in 22, 32 S&W and 38 S&W.

January 27, 2006, 10:10 AM	#1
newworldCurmudgeon Member Join Date: September 19, 2005 Location: CENLA Posts: 89	"single shot" revolver About 5 years ago, I was in a gunshop, and the gunsmith had a "single shot" revolver. let me explain It looked like a SAA, but was a topbreak, single shot, but it had the weight of a SAA. Has anyone else seen or heard of a pistol like this? I figure it would be good for introducing new people to shooting, but I do not know who the manufactered this pistol Thanks in advance

January 27, 2006, 11:54 AM	#4
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,380	But the Hawkeye wasn't a topbreak, was it? I thought the loading block tipped to the side. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

February 3, 2006, 03:38 AM	#9
newworldCurmudgeon Member Join Date: September 19, 2005 Location: CENLA Posts: 89	Thanks for the information Sorry work has kept me a little busy. Deadin it was a few years ago,and I am pretty sure it was a top break, I think it was the H&R mete talked about. Thanks again everyone

February 5, 2006, 08:00 AM	#11
newworldCurmudgeon Member Join Date: September 19, 2005 Location: CENLA Posts: 89	Dean Deadin/Dean I thought it was but it may not have been, what I definitly remember it was a top break, and looked and felt like a regular revolver (it was over three years ago) I thought it was a good idea for getting a new shooter used to shooting a "full sized" revolver without worrying about more than one shot. I know I can just load one round in a revolver....and when I am with new shooters I will load empty cases with regular rounds, to see how their trigger control is. but there has been more than one that will take a shot and then turn around with the weapon....usually just because they forget about the safety rules..... I have modified how I teach new shooters....now i only concentrate on the four rules the first time I take them to the range, and basically ignore any fundementals of marksmanship. I would rather have a safe shooter versus an accuracte shooter, at least until I kow they will come to the range again.... thanks again for all the replies

February 8, 2006, 06:45 AM	#13
newworldCurmudgeon Member Join Date: September 19, 2005 Location: CENLA Posts: 89	Darn memory and pictures Dean, that is not it, however looking at the other H&R revolvers, I realise how my memory could be slipping.... this would be so much easier if: 1. I was back in the states (specifically Arizona) and 2. The shop I saw it in was still open. If I remember right it was like Pipoman described, it had a cylinder ( don't remember if it had dummy rounds in it. Darn memory must be getting to me Thanks again, I'll surf on for more info though

January 27, 2006, 10:58 AM	#2
deadin Junior member Join Date: September 6, 2005 Location: Ocean Shores, WA Posts: 1,052	Are you sure it was a top-break? Savage made a single-shot .22 that looked like a SAA but the single-shot "cylinder" and intregal barrel swung out to the side for loading. It was a Model 101, made from 1960 to 1968. Dean

January 27, 2006, 11:26 AM	#3
Quantrill Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 1999 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 725	Ruger made a SAA looking single shot a few years back. Probably used a blackhawk frame. I believe it was called the "Hawkeye" and was in .256 calibre. Quantrill

January 27, 2006, 12:22 PM	#5
Quantrill Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 1999 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 725	Mike, While I never had one,(heck! I never even saw one in person), I am pretty sure you are correct. The pictures I saw "looked" like the breach folded out similiar to a revolver cylinder. I know he said top break, I was just thinking of look alike factor of a SAA. Quantrill

January 27, 2006, 12:23 PM	#6
deadin Junior member Join Date: September 6, 2005 Location: Ocean Shores, WA Posts: 1,052	Mike, Right on the Hawkeye. Kind of like the Colt Camp Perry. Revolver frames, no cylinder. Just a "block" for loading. The only top-break built on a revolver frame that comes to mind are the S&W single shots from around the turn of the century. And they didn't look anything like a SAA. (There also were the Sheridan and the S&W Straight Line, but they looked like Semi-Autos) Dean

January 27, 2006, 02:04 PM	#7
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	Ruger Hawkeye, like a SAA, S&W Straight Line , like a semiauto, Colt Camp Perry, like a DA revolver and H&R ,a top break single shot ,designed from their revolver.

January 29, 2006, 10:22 AM	#8
pipoman Senior Member Join Date: November 8, 2005 Posts: 897	My uncle had a sgl shot like this I saw when I was a kid, I always wondered what it was. I think it was a .22, I don't recall what the action was like. His had dummy rounds in the exposed cylinders when you looked at it from the front.

February 3, 2006, 09:24 AM	#10
deadin Junior member Join Date: September 6, 2005 Location: Ocean Shores, WA Posts: 1,052	Could have been the H&R. They are not uncommon and aren't too bad a plinker. But, looks like a SAA? Dean

February 5, 2006, 12:19 PM	#12
deadin Junior member Join Date: September 6, 2005 Location: Ocean Shores, WA Posts: 1,052	Here's a link to a H&R USRA .22 SS. Is THis it? http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976677323.htm Dean

February 8, 2006, 10:27 AM	#14
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,380	You know... For some reason I'm thinking that Savage made a single-shot revolver look handgun in the 1950s... Oh man, I'm hoping that I have the answer... Savage made the Model 101, a single shot .22 that looked a LOT like an Old West revolver. It wasn't top break, though... __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

February 8, 2006, 10:37 AM	#15
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,535	The likely suspect is the Savage 101 although, as deadin says, it opens to the side, not topbreak. Mendoza of Mexico also made a single shot .22 faked up to look like a SAA. Arizona seems a likely place for one to turn up. Sheridan tried to branch out from air rifles and sold a single shot .22 pistol, the Knockabout. But it doesn't much resemble a revolver.

February 8, 2006, 10:45 AM	#16
deadin Junior member Join Date: September 6, 2005 Location: Ocean Shores, WA Posts: 1,052	I forgot about the Mendoza. Anybody dredge up a picture or link? Dean

February 8, 2006, 11:40 AM	#17
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,380	To quote Ranier Wolfcastle of the Simpsons... MMMMEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

February 8, 2006, 09:25 PM	#18
walter in florida Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2005 Location: Seminole County, Florida Posts: 240	Savage 101 I have a Savage 101 and it is too small and very light. I only shot it 5 times and could not hit the side of a barn even if I was inside with the doors closed. Still got it and made a case to keep it in. It is in pretty good condition according to a gun collector/dealer. Smith & Wesson made a top break single shot (lst Model Single Shot) built on the frame of a 38 single action. only 1251 were made in 22, 32 S&W and 38 S&W.