12-gauge slug at 2,700 FPS

[T. O'Heir]

Post is 10 years old now.
Kind of suspect a slug at 2700 fps would melt in the barrel. Recoil would be astounding too.
The T-Rex is suppose to have 172 foot-pounds of recoil out of a 12 pound rifle. A 12 Ga. 3" mag using 1 5/8 of shot t 1280 fps and weighing 7.5 lbs. has 52.0 ft-lbs of recoil.

[Jim Watson]

There was the guy who got Holland's to make him a 10 bore Nitro double.
It did not have the velocity of a hot bolt action, but it was putting out a lot of lead.

[Ricklin]

What are ya'll hunting for heavens sake? Heck my little brother learned to respect a 20 ga. with 3" mags. Light little 20 ga double, and a black and blue shoulder.

I just don't understand folks who "like" heavy recoil. No thanks. I shall use the lightest recoiling load that gets the job done.

I shoot a lot of trap. From the 16 it's one ounce and about 1050 FPS. I can shoot that most all day. Anything more and after a hundred or so I get flaky. It's like my brain and my trigger finger suffer a disconnect. The subconscious is a very powerful thing.

I don't like recoil, and i never will like recoil. Why beat yourself up? I do have a name for those who hunt deer with a .338......Masochist. There are better ways to make sausage.

[natman]

Can we get a 1 oz slug to travel 2,700FPS in a standard 12-gauge shotgun without putting life or property in danger?

No.

[darkgael]

The beginning of this thread predates the ubiquitous "12 gauge rifle from Hell" posts.
Ed Hubel has been working on high velocity slug loads for 12 gauge shotguns for quite a while.
His posts are on this forum:
Here is his opener:

Back visiting here to tell about project a few of us over
on AR did..It is big wildcat called the 12GA From Hell.
First it is a long case we made by putting 12ga size rim
on bmg brass, and straightened case out.Two others put
it in big Borchardt falling block actions, and I put it in
a Savage 210 Bolt action with long heavy barrel and a heavy
stock..I got a hard Dixie Terminator 730 gr slug out at
2700 fps. The Borchardts will do more.Here is picture of our
case next to a regular plastic 12ga case, which by the way
can also be fired in our chambers.Ed Hubel

[natman]

The beginning of this thread predates the ubiquitous "12 gauge rifle from Hell" posts. Ed Hubel has been working on high velocity slug loads for 12 gauge shotguns for quite a while.

First it is a long case we made by putting 12ga size rim
on bmg brass, and straightened case out.Two others put
it in big Borchardt falling block actions, and I put it in
a Savage 210 Bolt action with long heavy barrel and a heavy
stock..

Ed & Co. have done some amazing things, but I would contend that custom guns built on Borchardt and Savage rifle actions fall outside the definition of "a standard 12 ga shotgun".

So my answer is still "no".

[Lohman446]

At some point don't your run afoul of the ATF by manufacturing a "destructive device" over .50 caliber? I know that shotguns are somehow excluded but I am not familiar with the reasoning.

[darkgael]

I doubt that I am getting 2700 fps but I have used loads in my Mossberg 695 that sound outrageous --- 90 grains of SR4759 and a one ounce BPI "Thug Slug". From Hubel's "12 gauge from Hell".
Lab tested and safe pressures. One of these days I will chrono these.
Pete