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Below is an excerpt from an article by Greg Rodriguez entitled “Return to Reason”. The article was published in the May 2008 issue of Shooting Times. ...
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December 4, 2016, 09:53 PM | #127 |
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Too bad Greg is no longer with us... Would have been interesting if he had continued his data collection to see what trends would emerge in the following 8 years.
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If you don't think the gun kicks, you will be free to do all the things you are supposed to do, and if you do those things, and remain focused on what you are supposed to be focused on, than you won't even notice the recoil at all. |
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December 4, 2016, 11:59 PM | #130 |
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I don't think that the issue is felt recoil while hunting. I believe the issue is felt recoil while practicing. That does a couple of things. It conditions a flinch and it cuts down on practice. Both of those have an impact while hunting even if the shooter never feels the recoil when they're shooting a game animal.
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December 5, 2016, 12:35 AM | #131 |
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Anticipation of recoil is very real. Recoil is also real. Humans certainly react differently to the recoil of a rifle, but I doubt if the brain does not sense the recoil. How the brain and body react are related, but slightly different, issues. Sudden, sharp pain generally produces a visible body reaction, but the reactions vary.
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December 5, 2016, 07:37 AM | #132 | |
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Seems like a quantum difference between a 30/06 and the 300 Magnums to me, although I know on paper it doesn't look like it would be. |
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December 5, 2016, 09:33 AM | #133 |
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I don't recall ever shooting a rifle that hurt when I pulled the trigger. I've had a 6lb 270 and a 5lb 308 that hurt when I moved my shoulder after the shot but never a sharp pain at the moment of the shot. I've shot some big guns and I've set my limit to 375 h&h for scoped rifles. I truely believe that most flinching is caused from muzzle blast and the rifle jumping up. I am mostly a hunter but I do enjoy some target work. 500 yards is my norm. I shoot all rifles I own from a bench with only my trigger finger hand touching the rifle. Some rifles jump alot and people who have seen me shoot them either refuse to shoot or hold the gun so tight with both hands that they can't possibly make a accurate shot. We all know atleast one person who has been hit by a scope and that is where your flinch starts.
I've set up video cameras at my bench so people thar say they aren't flinching can see it. Buy a quality scope with good eye relief and you should be able to tame your fear. I have broken a tooth before laying a 12 gauge turkey gun on the bench trying to pattern it with some really hot 3inch loads. Being the right height and position to shoot a gun comfortably makes a huge difference in recoil. |
December 5, 2016, 11:38 AM | #134 |
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The second time I ever shot a centerfire rifle, it was a full magazine through a 458 Winchester Model 70 my uncle brought back from Alaska. Think I was 14.
Everything else has pretty much been gravy after that.
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December 8, 2016, 11:21 PM | #135 |
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What is the average distance shot on game? I have personally only taken 2 shots over 300 yards, in maybe 20 hunting seasons, and at least 20 animals taken. Point being, if 1000 ft lbs of energy is suitable to kill deer and antelope, my 243 deer load is good to well over 400 yards in my area (4500-5500 ft above sealevel.) At 200 yards this load is still packing 1500 ft lbs. and at 300 the remaining energy is 1325 ft lbs. That is more than a 25-35 produces at the muzzle. With a decent bullet that will work fine on any deer in the state of Colorado. So being the stubborn old coot that I am it escapes me why a hunter NEEDS more gun. If you WANT more, heck, more power to ya (pun intended ).
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December 23, 2016, 01:23 PM | #136 |
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An 80 lb Georgia doe, shot from broadside out of a permanent stand at 50 yards...
...is a VASTLY different target than a 300+lb Montana buck quartering away through the timber at 120 yards... ...which is a VASTLY different target than any deer standing 400 yards across the prairie. Out West he '06 and .270 as well as the 7mm magnum are favored because the penetration is sometimes needed for quartering shots on big deer (we seldom use stands), and their power and flat trajectories are needed to carry the mail over longer ranges. These seasons also coincide with elk season, which no doubt influences some hunters as well. An '06 180gr is an excellent choice for both, but not so the .243 (possibly adequate, but not excellent). For southern deer from a stand or over a feeder, the .223 wouldn't give me pause. In my mind the old 25-35 would be ideal under such conditions.
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