hand to hand combat (or a hit gone right)

**4V50 Gary** · April 3, 2018, 05:39 PM

Here's an article my buddy sent me. A woman's husband hired a man to kill her. Despite being struck with a hammer on the temple, she killed the hitman by strangling him. Don't ever give up.

http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/08/17...ived-he-didnt/

GarandTd · April 3, 2018, 07:02 PM

That's quite a story. She has a will to survive.

stephen426 · April 4, 2018, 08:52 AM

What an awesome story of survival. Glad she came out on top and that the sorry excuse for a hit man and husband got what they deserved. I can't believe he went with a hammer! I'm sure he severely underestimated her will to survive and being high on cocaine didn't help.

SIGSHR · April 4, 2018, 02:05 PM

The only difference between a professional and n amateur is that a professional gets paid for it. Doesn't mean they're any good at it.

DaleA · April 4, 2018, 02:37 PM

Interesting article. Thanks for posting it.

For what it's worth, Gaston Glock was also accosted by a wannabe hitman armed with a hammer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaston...Murder_attempt

Bartholomew Roberts · April 4, 2018, 11:11 PM

Great example of the importance of mindset!

NWPilgrim · April 5, 2018, 07:06 AM

That is a good article! Very inspiring that she faced her attacker and decided to attack him, and after 14 minutes of fighting she prevailed. Noteworthy that she now practices shooting at a range so she will be armed and ready should another attack ever happen.

We want to have the best equipment available to stack the odds in our favor, but sometimes it is "doing what needs doing" even if it seems bleak for our own survival. While fighting she also though of ways to help identify her attacker if she was killed, by biting him multiple times, and trying to get ID out of his pocket to throw under the sofa. Amazing awareness and determination in the face of bad odds. Glad she survived.

In The Ten Ring · April 7, 2018, 03:55 PM

I know a man that was attacked by three men armed with a knife......well the would-be victim took the man's knife away then completely severed his bicep with it.

"After that they didn't want to fight anymore and I kept the knife." Police were not called.

The only mistake she made (other than not carrying a gun and being more proactive when her house seemed not the way she left it) was stopping the first time she had him down. Combat isn't an MMA fight, there isn't a referee that gets between you when you knock the other guy out, you stay on him until he is no longer a threat.

hdwhit · April 7, 2018, 11:17 PM

Quote:

In The Ten Ring wrote:
...you stay on him until he is no longer a threat.

Once they are unconscious, they are no longer a threat. Continuing the use of deadly force beyond that point opens you up to criminal charges.

In The Ten Ring · April 8, 2018, 01:26 PM

Once they are unconscious, they are no longer a threat. Continuing the use of deadly force beyond that point opens you up to criminal charges.

Looks like the bad guy here wasn't unconscious or didn't stay that way since he got up and attacked her again.

Brit · April 14, 2018, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Once they are unconscious, they are no longer a threat.

They could be in a state of unconsciousness, for mere seconds if you let them go! You keep the choke on, till you hear and smell them, void.

Then you go with the nice paramedics to the Hospital. I think the choke hold was overkill? Did you see the blood from those claw hammer strikes?

With claw hammer strikes, you need real wrist strength, to free the claw.
One determined Lady.

Hanshi · April 14, 2018, 04:39 PM

Like I always told my students, defending oneself is more a matter of WILL than SKILL.

sigxder · April 22, 2018, 04:18 PM

when I used to teach anti-rape classes I had a student survive an attack. She kept her cool. When the man produced his penis she offered to perform oral sex on him. He agreed.
She bit it off. This was before all these blood borne illnesses we have now. But talk about mind set, tactics, and will to do anything to survive. The blood loss and shock was incredible.

**4V50 Gary** · April 24, 2018, 09:08 PM

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

TunnelRat · May 22, 2018, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIGSHR

The only difference between a professional and n amateur is that a professional gets paid for it. Doesn't mean they're any good at it.

That would depend on your definition of professional. Just because someone wants money for a job doesnt mean they are a professional.

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April 3, 2018, 05:39 PM	#1
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,831	hand to hand combat (or a hit gone right) Here's an article my buddy sent me. A woman's husband hired a man to kill her. Despite being struck with a hammer on the temple, she killed the hitman by strangling him. Don't ever give up. http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/08/17...ived-he-didnt/ __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

April 3, 2018, 07:02 PM	#2
GarandTd Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2016 Location: Rural PA Posts: 1,639	That's quite a story. She has a will to survive. __________________ 22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp

April 4, 2018, 08:52 AM	#3
stephen426 Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2005 Posts: 3,840	What an awesome story of survival. Glad she came out on top and that the sorry excuse for a hit man and husband got what they deserved. I can't believe he went with a hammer! I'm sure he severely underestimated her will to survive and being high on cocaine didn't help. __________________ The ATF should be a convenience store instead of a government agency!

April 5, 2018, 07:06 AM	#7
NWPilgrim Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,346	That is a good article! Very inspiring that she faced her attacker and decided to attack him, and after 14 minutes of fighting she prevailed. Noteworthy that she now practices shooting at a range so she will be armed and ready should another attack ever happen. We want to have the best equipment available to stack the odds in our favor, but sometimes it is "doing what needs doing" even if it seems bleak for our own survival. While fighting she also though of ways to help identify her attacker if she was killed, by biting him multiple times, and trying to get ID out of his pocket to throw under the sofa. Amazing awareness and determination in the face of bad odds. Glad she survived. __________________ "The ultimate authority ... resides in the people alone. ... The advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation ... forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition." - James Madison

April 7, 2018, 03:55 PM	#8
In The Ten Ring Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2018 Posts: 380	I know a man that was attacked by three men armed with a knife......well the would-be victim took the man's knife away then completely severed his bicep with it. "After that they didn't want to fight anymore and I kept the knife." Police were not called. The only mistake she made (other than not carrying a gun and being more proactive when her house seemed not the way she left it) was stopping the first time she had him down. Combat isn't an MMA fight, there isn't a referee that gets between you when you knock the other guy out, you stay on him until he is no longer a threat. Last edited by In The Ten Ring; April 7, 2018 at 04:05 PM.

April 4, 2018, 02:05 PM	#4
SIGSHR Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2005 Posts: 4,700	The only difference between a professional and n amateur is that a professional gets paid for it. Doesn't mean they're any good at it.

April 4, 2018, 02:37 PM	#5
DaleA Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2002 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 5,312	Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. For what it's worth, Gaston Glock was also accosted by a wannabe hitman armed with a hammer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaston...Murder_attempt

April 4, 2018, 11:11 PM	#6
Bartholomew Roberts member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 8,462	Great example of the importance of mindset!

April 8, 2018, 01:26 PM	#10
In The Ten Ring Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2018 Posts: 380	Once they are unconscious, they are no longer a threat. Continuing the use of deadly force beyond that point opens you up to criminal charges. Looks like the bad guy here wasn't unconscious or didn't stay that way since he got up and attacked her again.

April 14, 2018, 04:39 PM	#12
Hanshi Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2017 Posts: 239	Like I always told my students, defending oneself is more a matter of WILL than SKILL. __________________ Young guys should hang out with old guys; old guys know stuff.

April 22, 2018, 04:18 PM	#13
sigxder Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2009 Posts: 390	when I used to teach anti-rape classes I had a student survive an attack. She kept her cool. When the man produced his penis she offered to perform oral sex on him. He agreed. She bit it off. This was before all these blood borne illnesses we have now. But talk about mind set, tactics, and will to do anything to survive. The blood loss and shock was incredible.

April 24, 2018, 09:08 PM	#14
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,831	Bwahahahahahahahahaha! __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

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