is it Pre-pban or isn't it?

Ruthless4christ · June 26, 2011, 03:47 PM

So I am living in NY right now and Am looking at some used ar-15’s and AK-47’s. My question is. How does one be sure that a rifle is “Pre-ban” or not? Does this go by Date of Manufacture?

Ruthless4christ · June 26, 2011, 03:50 PM

Before everyone starts jumping on me telling me how NYC deos not allow ak-47's let me say that I am no in NYC.

rdf.hack · June 26, 2011, 03:56 PM

A pre ban weapon means before the AWB was passed. So any rifle before then is legal, if understood correctly.

jimpeel · June 26, 2011, 04:16 PM

Date of manufacture before the ban should be easily determined by communicating with the manufacturer on which serial numbers qualify.

Ruthless4christ · June 26, 2011, 05:47 PM

soooooo if we are talking about romanian AK, who do I call to verify the serial number?

rdf.hack · June 26, 2011, 05:48 PM

Like a WASR? Call Century, they import/make them.

Ruthless4christ · June 26, 2011, 05:55 PM

Sooo, the only tested process of establishing if a weapon is pr-ban is by calling the manufacturer/importer? there are weapons that came here prior to century arms and other such companies taking over? Norinco only has a number in China. Not sure if anybody there speaks the lingo.

jimpeel · June 26, 2011, 05:59 PM

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Not sure if anybody there speaks the lingo.

Only one way to find out.

jimpeel · June 26, 2011, 06:18 PM

Some are easy:

http://www.browning.com/customerserv...egun/index.asp

http://oldguns.net/sn_php/marlinlookup.php

Some you will have to do some legwork:

This one is very well done and likely your best bet.

http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=26665

http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=30811.0

http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/859...-question.html

smoakingun · June 27, 2011, 05:45 PM

I am having a hard time understanding the issue here. There is no longer a federal awb, so why does it matter?

Technosavant · June 27, 2011, 07:39 PM

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I am having a hard time understanding the issue here. There is no longer a federal awb, so why does it matter?

Some states passed their own bans. Some of them mirrored the federal ban, some are stricter.

NY state is one such state with their own state level ban, hence the question.

June 26, 2011, 03:47 PM	#1
Ruthless4christ Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2007 Location: CNY Posts: 790	is it Pre-pban or isn't it? So I am living in NY right now and Am looking at some used ar-15’s and AK-47’s. My question is. How does one be sure that a rifle is “Pre-ban” or not? Does this go by Date of Manufacture?

June 26, 2011, 04:16 PM	#4
jimpeel Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1999 Location: Longmont, CO, USA Posts: 4,530	Date of manufacture before the ban should be easily determined by communicating with the manufacturer on which serial numbers qualify. __________________ Gun Control: The premise that a woman found in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is morally superior to allowing that same woman to defend her life with a firearm. "Science is built up with facts, as a house is with stones. But a collection of facts is no more a science than a heap of stones is a house." - Jules Henri Poincare "Three thousand people died on Sept. 11 because eight pilots were killed" -- former Northwest Airlines pilot Stephen Luckey

June 26, 2011, 06:18 PM	#9
jimpeel Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1999 Location: Longmont, CO, USA Posts: 4,530	Some are easy: http://www.browning.com/customerserv...egun/index.asp http://oldguns.net/sn_php/marlinlookup.php Some you will have to do some legwork: This one is very well done and likely your best bet. http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=26665 http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=30811.0 http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/859...-question.html __________________ Gun Control: The premise that a woman found in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is morally superior to allowing that same woman to defend her life with a firearm. "Science is built up with facts, as a house is with stones. But a collection of facts is no more a science than a heap of stones is a house." - Jules Henri Poincare "Three thousand people died on Sept. 11 because eight pilots were killed" -- former Northwest Airlines pilot Stephen Luckey

June 27, 2011, 05:45 PM	#10
smoakingun Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2009 Location: melrose, fl Posts: 634	I am having a hard time understanding the issue here. There is no longer a federal awb, so why does it matter? __________________ Hundreds of years from now, it will not matter what my bank account was, the sort of house I lived in, or the kind of car I drove... But the world may be different because I did something so bafflingly crazy that my ruins become a tourist attraction.

June 26, 2011, 03:50 PM	#2
Ruthless4christ Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2007 Location: CNY Posts: 790	Before everyone starts jumping on me telling me how NYC deos not allow ak-47's let me say that I am no in NYC.

June 26, 2011, 03:56 PM	#3
rdf.hack Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 2011 Posts: 173	A pre ban weapon means before the AWB was passed. So any rifle before then is legal, if understood correctly.

June 26, 2011, 05:47 PM	#5
Ruthless4christ Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2007 Location: CNY Posts: 790	soooooo if we are talking about romanian AK, who do I call to verify the serial number?

June 26, 2011, 05:48 PM	#6
rdf.hack Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 2011 Posts: 173	Like a WASR? Call Century, they import/make them.

June 26, 2011, 05:55 PM	#7
Ruthless4christ Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2007 Location: CNY Posts: 790	Sooo, the only tested process of establishing if a weapon is pr-ban is by calling the manufacturer/importer? there are weapons that came here prior to century arms and other such companies taking over? Norinco only has a number in China. Not sure if anybody there speaks the lingo.