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Old July 26, 2021, 12:23 PM   #176
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I'm referring to 40-shot prone records at 100 yards.
Hmm, make a statement, proven false again, and then narrow it down to claim it is only 1 of about 100 records. Surely you can comprehend the fallacy of your argument and statements.
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Old July 26, 2021, 05:32 PM   #177
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A rimfire shooters hack...Tumble your bullets, by hand, in walnut media to get all the lube off. Then use dry compressed air to make sure there is no dust.

Every 10th bullet, lubricate with a drop of Rem oil. I don't shoot those into groups since they will be flyers.

Eliminates the need to sort and maintains a more consistent weight and rifling engagement. In most of my rimfires, it keeps them cleaner and more accurate.

Also, if every rimfire shooter did this, the only proper use for RemOil would become common knowledge.

interesting, I am going to have to try this. I don't have any walnut media but rubbing alcohol is a great degreaser/dewaxer
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Old July 26, 2021, 05:52 PM   #178
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hounddawg, I don't know why rubbing alcohol would not work just as well, wiping of course, not soaking in it.
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Old July 26, 2021, 06:55 PM   #179
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I got my rifleman patch at an Appleseed shoot, my skills are good enough .
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Old July 27, 2021, 09:10 AM   #180
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Hmm, make a statement, proven false again, and then narrow it down to claim it is only 1 of about 100 records. Surely you can comprehend the fallacy of your argument and statements.
Some people cannot comprehend the fact that some competitive shooting sports are based on how often bullets touch different size scoring rings revealing their marksmanship skills....without artificial support.

Nor do they understand why the quality of their arms and ammo effects the scores they shoot.

Top classified competitive shooters can call all shots inside a quarter MOA circle on target. Add that to the biggest groups the ammo shoots on target. The answer is the group size on paper.

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Old July 27, 2021, 09:35 AM   #181
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Come on guys! Don't make me have to start wholesale deleting posts in this thread.

You have completely changed this thread from the contest thread it started out as.

From this point on if the back-and-forth continues between two members, and you know who you are, there will be consequences.

Now - back to the contest, and talk only about that.
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Old August 26, 2021, 05:56 AM   #182
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I'll be joining soon. Just picked this up on Tuesday, I only have Blazer ammo at the moment, waiting on some packages before I start shooting for tiny circles.

Hmmm, the image isn't posting but here is a link. Its a Christensen Arms Ranger with a Vortex Diamondback 6-24. Long story short I need to start competing again to keep busy, I have too much free time these days and I need to keep out of trouble.

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Old August 26, 2021, 10:21 AM   #183
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That's a beauty Rob!
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Old August 26, 2021, 03:50 PM   #184
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Thanks!! I just got back from the range and had a package of Eley Club and CCI Target ammo waiting for me.

It has not been shooting all that great with Blazer and Thunderbolt (both are just on the supersonic side of the sound barrier if I am doing the math correctly) and at 50 yards I am getting quite a few unexplained flyers. Unfortunately the range I shoot at has rubberized tunnels on each shooting lane that you have to shoot through, so reading the wind gets a little difficult since all you can see from the bench is your target.

I'll give the challenge a shot tomorrow with the Eley and CCI. I've still got some Norma on the way.
At the very least I'll put up a range report
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Old August 26, 2021, 05:57 PM   #185
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I think I figured out the picture issue.
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Old August 27, 2021, 04:15 PM   #186
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Well, I put more than 5 rounds on the target, and it was humbling. I have been out of the precision games for about ten years and it shows. Also shown is the first of my ammo tests (all 5 shot groups at 50) and a 100 yard target with Eley Club. I still have some Norma precision and some Aguila match on the way. I'm the weak link at the moment, and I need to get to a range where its easier to make wind calls, but overall I'm pretty happy so far.

I can see the smallest of the dots at 16X, but when I go higher than that I just can't seem to hold on target and my groups get a lot bigger.
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Old August 27, 2021, 04:18 PM   #187
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A few more pictures from the range today.
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Old August 27, 2021, 05:50 PM   #188
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You'll get the hang of it and as the barrel fouls a bit and you find the ammo it likes better it will come together much better--you'll see.
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Old August 28, 2021, 02:30 PM   #189
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Gave it another crack today after a layoff of a few weeks, still can't close the deal on the top row but did (barely) get a 4 shot repeat for 108 points, and this time I'm sure it was within 3 minutes though didn't have an actual recorder. I ran out of the RWS R50 and tried tenex and ely pistol match, no problem sweeping the two lower rows with either of them--I couldn't match the RWS ammo on the top row with them.



I have no idea why--but the biggest dot on the top row is always the hardest one for me to hit--in fact I usually miss it by a wider margin than any of the other ones.
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Old August 28, 2021, 04:46 PM   #190
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I'm finding that circular targets in general produce more misses than square or diamond in my case.
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Old August 29, 2021, 07:26 AM   #191
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I just bit the bullet so to speak and ordered some Tenex.
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Old August 29, 2021, 09:14 AM   #192
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It shoots really well in my CZ 457--but the RWS R 50 is slightly better, and it's usually in stock someplace (probably because it's one of the most expensive).
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Old August 30, 2021, 07:32 PM   #193
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It's kinda funny--just out of curiosity I took a look at Charlie Irby's winning 130 point target--His biggest variations from centerpoint of the target dots are the two biggest ones on the top row--just like I usually get. I thought maybe I was drinking too much Irish whiskey lately.
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Old September 8, 2021, 04:48 PM   #194
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Took a week off from the range, still having a rough time with the wind. No rimfire challenge target today, but I did manage to impress myself with this 5 shot group at 100 yards with Eley Tenex. I was looking at a 6.2" drop from 50 yards to 100.



At 50 yards, Aguila, CCI Target, Norma, Lapua, Eley Club and Tenex all group about the same, the groups open up significantly at 100 yards.
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Try a couple of boxes of that RWS R 50--it's really great stuff in my CZ.
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Old September 20, 2021, 01:12 PM   #196
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Interesting. Wish I lived closer to the range.

I didnt notice it in the rules, but do all 5 shots have to be in the same row??
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Old September 20, 2021, 05:17 PM   #197
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You can take shots in any order you want.
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