VA AG declares Self Defense good and sufficient reason for church carry

wally626 · April 11, 2011, 03:27 PM

In VA it is illegal to carry in a church during a worship service without good and sufficient reason. The AG has just issued a letter stating that personnel protection is good and sufficient reason.

http://www.vaag.com/OPINIONS/2011opns/11-043.pdf
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...0+cod+18.2-283

Note: Churches since they are private property can ban firearms, but there is not a blanket ban on them now, or at least the lack of a ban for self defense has been given some official sanction.

News from a VCDL email.

http://www.vcdl.org/

Some more good news for VA, now on to constitutional carry.

MTT TL · April 11, 2011, 04:16 PM

A lot of good stuff coming out of Virginia lately.

alloy · April 11, 2011, 04:25 PM

Yep, some nice changes recently. Cuccinelli is the general briar in some people's shorts. VA and nationwide.

Standing Wolf · April 11, 2011, 08:04 PM

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A lot of good stuff coming out of Virginia lately.

Yep. I believe it's a VCDL thing. People in every state should understand.

egor20 · April 11, 2011, 08:16 PM

A very good start, although I'm still keeping my wife's and my guns in the truck safe until it becomes an actual law. An Opinion is still not Law.

langenc · April 11, 2011, 09:01 PM

""A lot of good stuff coming out of Virginia lately. "" from post #2

They have a wonderful VCDL organization that is pro gun legislation ACTIVE..
Wish we had something like that. Check em out and get on their email list.
Virginia Citizens Defense League

Mr. James · April 12, 2011, 05:19 PM

Been a huge fan of Ken Cuccinelli since he first ran for the 37th Virginia Senate seat some years back. He's a true friend of gun owners and is a regular at area gun shows - sure, he's trolling for votes, or keeping his name in the mix, but he seems to genuinely enjoy being there and talking issues with the common rabble.

Not gun related, but certainly liberty related, Cuccinelli launched a thus-far successful challenge to aspects of Obamacare, quite independently of the 26 states that joined hands against it.

Cuccinelli is also a skilled and utterly fearless debater - he'll take on his most virulent opponents (and believe me, they are virulent) anytime, anywhere.

This latest opinion is of a kind for him - that asinine wording, "good and sufficient cause," is just ripe for abuse. The AG's opinion isn't law, but it carries a fair measure of weight - after all, the Commonwealth's Attorneys all have to answer to him!

Until us VCDL'ers succeed in having the offending language amended, it's not a bad start.

Bob James
Fairfax County

April 11, 2011, 03:27 PM	#1
wally626 Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2009 Posts: 642	VA AG declares Self Defense good and sufficient reason for church carry In VA it is illegal to carry in a church during a worship service without good and sufficient reason. The AG has just issued a letter stating that personnel protection is good and sufficient reason. http://www.vaag.com/OPINIONS/2011opns/11-043.pdf http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...0+cod+18.2-283 Note: Churches since they are private property can ban firearms, but there is not a blanket ban on them now, or at least the lack of a ban for self defense has been given some official sanction. News from a VCDL email. http://www.vcdl.org/ Some more good news for VA, now on to constitutional carry.

April 11, 2011, 08:16 PM	#5
egor20 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,824	A very good start, although I'm still keeping my wife's and my guns in the truck safe until it becomes an actual law. An Opinion is still not Law. __________________ Chief stall mucker and grain chef Country don't mean dumb. Steven King. The Stand

April 12, 2011, 05:19 PM	#7
Mr. James Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2001 Location: The Old Dominion Posts: 1,521	Cuccinelli rawks!! Been a huge fan of Ken Cuccinelli since he first ran for the 37th Virginia Senate seat some years back. He's a true friend of gun owners and is a regular at area gun shows - sure, he's trolling for votes, or keeping his name in the mix, but he seems to genuinely enjoy being there and talking issues with the common rabble. Not gun related, but certainly liberty related, Cuccinelli launched a thus-far successful challenge to aspects of Obamacare, quite independently of the 26 states that joined hands against it. Cuccinelli is also a skilled and utterly fearless debater - he'll take on his most virulent opponents (and believe me, they are virulent) anytime, anywhere. This latest opinion is of a kind for him - that asinine wording, "good and sufficient cause," is just ripe for abuse. The AG's opinion isn't law, but it carries a fair measure of weight - after all, the Commonwealth's Attorneys all have to answer to him! Until us VCDL'ers succeed in having the offending language amended, it's not a bad start. Bob James Fairfax County __________________ "...A humble and contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise." Ps. li "When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." —Frederic Bastiat

April 11, 2011, 04:16 PM	#2
MTT TL Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2009 Location: Quadling Country Posts: 2,780	A lot of good stuff coming out of Virginia lately. __________________ Thus a man should endeavor to reach this high place of courage with all his heart, and, so trying, never be backward in war.

April 11, 2011, 09:01 PM	#6
langenc Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2007 Location: Montmorency Co, MI Posts: 1,551	""A lot of good stuff coming out of Virginia lately. "" from post #2 They have a wonderful VCDL organization that is pro gun legislation ACTIVE.. Wish we had something like that. Check em out and get on their email list. Virginia Citizens Defense League