The Perfect Fighting Revolver - Page 2

tallball · April 30, 2017, 10:32 AM

It depends on the person. My hands are the size of cabbages. The ones I like best, my hobbit-sized friend can't even shoot.

It depends on the situation. I prefer shooting 7.5" barrels, but you can't really cc them or use them in a car. My snubbies can go pretty much anywhere, but they will never be as accurate (for me) as my more massive revolvers. 44 magnums are slow for follow-up shots. 38 special might bounce of off certain barriers.

That is certainly a nice revolver. I like the square butts (and big butts in general) better, too.

Salmoneye · April 30, 2017, 10:54 AM

If I HAD to give up every other gun I own, I could get by just fine with my well used 1988 KGPF-340...

GP-100
4"
Half Lug
Fixed Sight

Food, or fighting...I would not feel undergunned...

Model12Win · April 30, 2017, 11:05 AM

Not a fan of that square butt on a 3" gun, and making the barrel slab side while cutting it down makes no sense for recoil control or follow up shots. Perfect fighting revolver? Glad you think so, but many of us don't.

Mr.RevolverGuy · April 30, 2017, 11:18 AM

Perfect for you is different than perfect for me. We all have different preferences.

ThomasT · April 30, 2017, 11:38 AM

Revolverguy you have a nice gun with nice upgrades. I have a model 65 and for just a little bit I wondered...

But I think this gun would work just as well and not have the supposed weakness of a split forcing cone. Add the compact Ruger grip available from Ruger and it would also be an ideal fighting gun.

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/produc...eets/1753.html

http://shopruger.com/Rubber-Grips-wi...uctinfo/70084/

Mr.RevolverGuy · April 30, 2017, 11:44 AM

I am with you on the forcing cone. I shoot nothing but 158gr in it so less likely for it to happen. That Wiley Clapp is nice.

I wish those grips would fit on a Redhawk frame.

dahermit · April 30, 2017, 11:45 AM

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The Perfect Fighting Revolver

I do not understand the terms, "Fighting Revolver". I think in terms of a "defensive revolver". If I anticipated being in a fight, I would likely choose an auto like a Browning H.P. or (shudder), a Glock. However, when it comes to a "defensive revolver", I think in terms of something that I can jerk out of my pants pocket (revolver with no hammer spur) and get a shot off at a threat at nearly point blank range as I scrambled to get out of the area. In short, I want nothing to do with a gun "fight" and thus have no perceived need for a Fighting Revolver. Nevertheless, the gun looks like a neat fun gun.

dahermit · April 30, 2017, 11:47 AM

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Mr.RevolverGuy · April 30, 2017, 11:52 AM

Quote:

I do not understand the terms, "Fighting Revolver". I think in terms of a "defensive revolver". If I anticipated being in a fight, I would likely choose an auto like a Browning H.P. or (shudder), a Glock. However, when it comes to a "defensive revolver", I think in terms of something that I can jerk out of my pants pocket (revolver with no hammer spur) and get a shot off at a threat at nearly point blank range as I scrambled to get out of the area. In short, I want nothing to do with a gun "fight" and thus have no perceived need for a Fighting Revolver. Nevertheless, the gun looks like a neet fun gun.

I agree it is best not to ever be in that situation and I will run like forest to avoid one.

Apologies on the title some things never change Marines "Fire Fight" terminology etc or my handgun is for fighting my way to my rifle etc.

Danoobie · April 30, 2017, 02:41 PM

First off, these are all very nice pistols.
My preference for a fighting pistol, since it doesn't
have to be concealed, is the 6" S&W Model 29.

I feel that there's no point in losing MV, when you
don't have to hide the gun, anyways.

Real Gun · April 30, 2017, 02:44 PM

Quote:

First off, these are all very nice pistols.
My preference for a fighting pistol, since it doesn't
have to be concealed, is the 6" S&W Model 29.

I feel that there's no point in losing MV, when you
don't have to hide the gun, anyways.

There is the problem of concealing it to get to the "fight". Strutting around with a Dirty Harry gun on your belt or vertical shoulder rig is probably not very common.

ThomasT · April 30, 2017, 04:16 PM

I understand those that think the only modern "fighting Gun" is a high cap semi-auto and would feel naked if limited to "just" a revolver. But if you remember the Miami shootout in 1986 two FBI agents were killed by two bank robbers. The fight was not ended with a shotgun, AR, or high capacity auto. It was ended by a cop armed with a 357 magnum revolver and the will to use it.

I would not and do not feel undergunned with a 5-6 shot revolver. The clip below about the ending of the Miami gunfight reinforces what you have read many times before. Its the Indian, not the arrow.

"Platt attempted to start the Grogan/Dove car. Mireles drew his .357 Magnum revolver, moved parallel to the street and then directly toward Platt and Matix. Mireles fired six rounds at the suspects. The first round missed, hitting the back of the front seat. The second hit the driver's side window post and fragmented, with one small piece hitting Platt in the scalp. The third hit Matix in the face, and fragmented in two, with neither piece causing a serious wound. The fourth hit Matix in the face next to his right eye socket, travelled downward through the facial bones, into the neck, where it entered the spinal column and severed the spinal cord. The fifth hit Matix in the face, penetrated the jaw bone and neck and came to rest by the spinal column.[23] Mireles reached the driver's side door, extended his revolver through the window, and fired his sixth shot at Platt. The bullet penetrated Platt's chest and bruised the spinal cord, ending the gunfight."

Bob Wright · April 30, 2017, 04:38 PM

If I had to go with a little revolver, it would be this one, a Model 586:

But for just protecting my hide, this is my everyday companion:

Ruger New Model Blackhawk in .45 Colt.

Bob Wright

Super Sneaky Steve · April 30, 2017, 05:21 PM

A fighting revolver should not have adjustable sights.

gbclarkson · April 30, 2017, 06:36 PM

If I were given a blank check and asked to buy the perfect fighting revolver I would likely buy a 7- or 8-shot .357 S&W from the performance center.

jmr40 · April 30, 2017, 06:46 PM

I still think a factory Smith 65 with 4" barrel would be about as good as it gets.

jetinteriorguy · April 30, 2017, 07:16 PM

Other than concealed carry, I consider my 8-shot S&W Model 627 about as good as I would want for a "combat" revolver. Handles full house magnums no sweat, very accurate, and would make a heck of a club if you can't end a fight with eight 158gr HP's at 1400-1500 fps. Plus being an N frame it will take about all you can dish out in a .357. And for me the added bonus of my Henry with eleven more rounds.

MrBorland · April 30, 2017, 07:40 PM

I dig the OP's massaged M65, and agree a 3" Model 65 is (almost) the perfect "fighting revolver". Here's mine - a factory & stock 3" Model 65 with a buttery-smooth factory action:

Only addition of an ejector rod shroud (a la the Lady Smith variant; and possibly converted to DAO) would be needed for the perfect all-aound "fighting revolver", IMO.

Mr.RevolverGuy · April 30, 2017, 08:06 PM

Nice Mr.Borland Nice

ThomasT · April 30, 2017, 08:29 PM

Quote:

I am with you on the forcing cone. I shoot nothing but 158gr in it so less likely for it to happen. That Wiley Clapp is nice.

I wish those grips would fit on a Redhawk frame.

The GP I linked to in my earlier thread shows out of stock. But a stainless 3" is still available.

Those compact grips I linked to say they will fit some older Redhawks but call first. So you may have a chance of them fitting depending on the gun you own.

For me this would work just as well as the WC version.

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/produc...eets/1715.html

ThomasT · April 30, 2017, 08:35 PM

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I still think a factory Smith 65 with 4" barrel would be about as good as it gets.

Yep. Thats why mine with a 4" barrel will remain stock. Mine was a police turn in and somewhere along the way it has been bead blasted. I really like it. But it has a Pachmayr finger groove grip and I don't like that. I need to find a service (?) wood grip and add a Tyler T-Grip.

Deaf Smith · April 30, 2017, 08:54 PM

Perfect fighting revolver?

Ok, start with my S&W 625 3 inch .45 ACP.

1. Lighten the grip frame (without weakening it.) Some holes, flutes, and scallops to take some metal off.

2. Thin the barrel and take off the shroud around the ejector rod (but keep the front part that locks the cylinder.)

3.Thinner trigger with smooth pad.

4. Cylinder and Slide shop extreme duty rear sight.

That and a good action job!

One can use +P .45 ACPs or .45 Supers.

Deaf

WIN71 · April 30, 2017, 10:53 PM

I like this one. A fighting handgun is not a target handgun.

Quote:

I dig the OP's massaged M65, and agree a 3" Model 65 is (almost) the perfect "fighting revolver". Here's mine - a factory & stock 3" Model 65 with a buttery-smooth factory action:

Real Gun · May 1, 2017, 07:11 AM

Looking at some of these choices of hefty guns reminds me of the axiom about the one you left at home.

Real Gun · May 1, 2017, 07:14 AM

Quote:

A fighting revolver should not have adjustable sights.

But a versatile revolver might.

April 30, 2017, 11:18 AM	#29
Mr.RevolverGuy Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 988	Perfect for you is different than perfect for me. We all have different preferences. __________________ Mr.Revolverguy http://www.dayattherange.com Firearms Reviewed and Reported On: An unbiased opinion with real world use.

April 30, 2017, 11:44 AM	#31
Mr.RevolverGuy Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 988	I am with you on the forcing cone. I shoot nothing but 158gr in it so less likely for it to happen. That Wiley Clapp is nice. I wish those grips would fit on a Redhawk frame. __________________ Mr.Revolverguy http://www.dayattherange.com Firearms Reviewed and Reported On: An unbiased opinion with real world use.

April 30, 2017, 04:38 PM	#38
Bob Wright Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2012 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 2,987	If I had to go with a little revolver, it would be this one, a Model 586: But for just protecting my hide, this is my everyday companion: Ruger New Model Blackhawk in .45 Colt. Bob Wright __________________ Time spent at the reloading bench is an investment in contentment.

April 30, 2017, 06:46 PM	#41
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,803	I still think a factory Smith 65 with 4" barrel would be about as good as it gets. __________________ "If you're still doing things the same way you were doing them 10 years ago, you're doing it wrong" Winston Churchill

April 30, 2017, 08:06 PM	#44
Mr.RevolverGuy Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 988	Nice Mr.Borland Nice __________________ Mr.Revolverguy http://www.dayattherange.com Firearms Reviewed and Reported On: An unbiased opinion with real world use.

April 30, 2017, 10:32 AM	#26
tallball Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2014 Posts: 2,444	It depends on the person. My hands are the size of cabbages. The ones I like best, my hobbit-sized friend can't even shoot. It depends on the situation. I prefer shooting 7.5" barrels, but you can't really cc them or use them in a car. My snubbies can go pretty much anywhere, but they will never be as accurate (for me) as my more massive revolvers. 44 magnums are slow for follow-up shots. 38 special might bounce of off certain barriers. That is certainly a nice revolver. I like the square butts (and big butts in general) better, too.

April 30, 2017, 10:54 AM	#27
Salmoneye Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 2011 Location: Vermont Posts: 2,076	If I HAD to give up every other gun I own, I could get by just fine with my well used 1988 KGPF-340... GP-100 4" Half Lug Fixed Sight Food, or fighting...I would not feel undergunned...

April 30, 2017, 11:05 AM	#28
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Not a fan of that square butt on a 3" gun, and making the barrel slab side while cutting it down makes no sense for recoil control or follow up shots. Perfect fighting revolver? Glad you think so, but many of us don't.

April 30, 2017, 11:38 AM	#30
ThomasT Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,752	Revolverguy you have a nice gun with nice upgrades. I have a model 65 and for just a little bit I wondered... But I think this gun would work just as well and not have the supposed weakness of a split forcing cone. Add the compact Ruger grip available from Ruger and it would also be an ideal fighting gun. http://www.ruger-firearms.com/produc...eets/1753.html http://shopruger.com/Rubber-Grips-wi...uctinfo/70084/

April 30, 2017, 11:47 AM	#33
dahermit Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 2006 Location: South Central Michigan...near Posts: 6,501	Duplicate post...deleted.

April 30, 2017, 02:41 PM	#35
Danoobie Senior Member Join Date: April 27, 2017 Posts: 351	First off, these are all very nice pistols. My preference for a fighting pistol, since it doesn't have to be concealed, is the 6" S&W Model 29. I feel that there's no point in losing MV, when you don't have to hide the gun, anyways.

April 30, 2017, 04:16 PM	#37
ThomasT Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,752	I understand those that think the only modern "fighting Gun" is a high cap semi-auto and would feel naked if limited to "just" a revolver. But if you remember the Miami shootout in 1986 two FBI agents were killed by two bank robbers. The fight was not ended with a shotgun, AR, or high capacity auto. It was ended by a cop armed with a 357 magnum revolver and the will to use it. I would not and do not feel undergunned with a 5-6 shot revolver. The clip below about the ending of the Miami gunfight reinforces what you have read many times before. Its the Indian, not the arrow. "Platt attempted to start the Grogan/Dove car. Mireles drew his .357 Magnum revolver, moved parallel to the street and then directly toward Platt and Matix. Mireles fired six rounds at the suspects. The first round missed, hitting the back of the front seat. The second hit the driver's side window post and fragmented, with one small piece hitting Platt in the scalp. The third hit Matix in the face, and fragmented in two, with neither piece causing a serious wound. The fourth hit Matix in the face next to his right eye socket, travelled downward through the facial bones, into the neck, where it entered the spinal column and severed the spinal cord. The fifth hit Matix in the face, penetrated the jaw bone and neck and came to rest by the spinal column.[23] Mireles reached the driver's side door, extended his revolver through the window, and fired his sixth shot at Platt. The bullet penetrated Platt's chest and bruised the spinal cord, ending the gunfight."

April 30, 2017, 05:21 PM	#39
Super Sneaky Steve Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2011 Posts: 1,248	A fighting revolver should not have adjustable sights.

April 30, 2017, 06:36 PM	#40
gbclarkson Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2014 Location: None of yer business, sonny Posts: 440	If I were given a blank check and asked to buy the perfect fighting revolver I would likely buy a 7- or 8-shot .357 S&W from the performance center.

April 30, 2017, 07:16 PM	#42
jetinteriorguy Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Posts: 3,168	Other than concealed carry, I consider my 8-shot S&W Model 627 about as good as I would want for a "combat" revolver. Handles full house magnums no sweat, very accurate, and would make a heck of a club if you can't end a fight with eight 158gr HP's at 1400-1500 fps. Plus being an N frame it will take about all you can dish out in a .357. And for me the added bonus of my Henry with eleven more rounds.

April 30, 2017, 07:40 PM	#43
MrBorland Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2007 Location: NC Posts: 2,614	I dig the OP's massaged M65, and agree a 3" Model 65 is (almost) the perfect "fighting revolver". Here's mine - a factory & stock 3" Model 65 with a buttery-smooth factory action: Only addition of an ejector rod shroud (a la the Lady Smith variant; and possibly converted to DAO) would be needed for the perfect all-aound "fighting revolver", IMO.

May 1, 2017, 07:11 AM	#49
Real Gun Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,743	Looking at some of these choices of hefty guns reminds me of the axiom about the one you left at home. __________________ Not an expert, just a reporter.

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