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Old October 12, 2009, 01:20 PM   #1976
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Flyfish could you please help me date this m19-3. ser#4k26xxx Thanks for any help-ken
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Old October 12, 2009, 01:48 PM   #1977
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I am new too. I need help

I purchased a Smith & Wesson Model 10-5 Serial Number D370XXX with a 4" barrel. I would like to find answers to 3 questions:

1: About what year was this gun made?

2: Can it handle the +P+ ammunition?

3: Should the firing pin wiggle some in the hammer or should it be tight?

Thanks for any response: In Georgia
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Old October 12, 2009, 03:24 PM   #1978
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CraCZ: Your 19-3 dates from 1973.

Pensrollei: 1. 1971-72. 2. I wouldn't fire +P+ ammo in any of my guns as it doesn't necessarily meet SAAMI specs for peak pressure, but that's me. I don't think your Model 10 is going to kaboom if you try it, but I still wouldn't recommend it. If you want another opinion, you could call S&W - my guess is they'll tell you the same (and you might get some other opinions here as well). 3. The firing pin is designed to pivot up/down but shouldn't have much movement at all side to side.
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Old October 12, 2009, 04:35 PM   #1979
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Dating a pair of S&W Model 60 snubbies

I recently obtained a pair of S&W Model 60 stainless steel snubbies in .38 Special. The serial numbers are R665xx and BBF07xx. Can anyone give me an idea of when these two revolvers were manufactured? Many thanks.
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Old October 12, 2009, 04:53 PM   #1980
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I purchased a Smith & Wesson Model 10-5 Serial Number D370XXX with a 4" barrel... Can it handle the +P+ ammunition?
If it's one of the rare Model 10's chambered from the factory in .357 Magnum, yes. Such a Model 10 will say ".357 MAGNUM" on the side of the barrel and will readily chamber a .357 Magnum cartridge.

If not, NO. It is a gun-destroying kB! looking for an opportunity to happen.

Some commercial +P+ is loaded to near-.357Mag pressure levels, nearly double .38Spl pressure levels. The only factory S&W revolvers chambered in .38Spl that are generally strong enough to handle it are N frame .38/44s, which are ridiculously overbuilt; however, even then, I'd be hesitant to fire it through one of these rare and valuable collector's items.

OTOH +P (without the "+" suffix) is safe in most postwar steel-frame .38Spl S&W revolvers, including your Model 10.
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Old October 12, 2009, 04:59 PM   #1981
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I recently obtained a pair of S&W Model 60 stainless steel snubbies in .38 Special. The serial numbers are R665xx and BBF07xx.
R665XX = between 1970 to 1973.
BBF07XX = 1988.

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Old October 12, 2009, 05:01 PM   #1982
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Hersir- R665xx should be ~ early 1973.

The BBF prefix is July 1988.

Any S&W manufactured after 1957 when model numbers were assigned can handle +p ammunition with no problem.
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Old October 12, 2009, 06:00 PM   #1983
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Tyusclan,

Curious, but the SCSW shows R30001 to R99999 running 1970 to 1973. What source are you using to get "early 1973"?

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Old October 12, 2009, 06:43 PM   #1984
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Strictly a guess, and I probably shouldn't do that. My apologies.

You're exactly right on the serial # and year range given.
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Old October 12, 2009, 08:59 PM   #1985
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Highway Patrolman

Please would like to know when this was made S&W Highway Patrolman 4" s/n S2758xx Thanks//K
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Old October 12, 2009, 09:33 PM   #1986
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Hey guys. Just came into a S&W model 25-2, serial # N734247. What is the date of manufacture and approximate value of this gun in good condition. Thanks
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Old October 12, 2009, 09:49 PM   #1987
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duramax- 1966-1967

sinister1811- 1980. The book shows good condition at $335, very good at $400.
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Old October 12, 2009, 10:36 PM   #1988
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hey Jim i would appreciate a little help i have been holding on to an old .38 (i think)for a few years now.i'm sure its not worth any money value...i would like to find parts for it though......the sn is 508690 no letters are before it
help would be awesome
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Old October 12, 2009, 10:41 PM   #1989
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hey Jim i would appreciate a little help i have been holding on to an old .38 (i think)for a few years now.i'm sure its not worth any money value...i would like to find parts for it though......the sn is 508690 no letters are before it
5 shot or 6? Swing out cylinder? 38 S&W or 38 S&W Special (Spl)?

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Old October 12, 2009, 11:20 PM   #1990
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5 shot.i don't know gun lingo.it opens forward
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Old October 12, 2009, 11:27 PM   #1991
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By opens forward do you mean the Barrel and cylinder hinges downward when opened?

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Old October 12, 2009, 11:28 PM   #1992
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yes....and that pin is the piece i'm missing so its in two parts
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Old October 12, 2009, 11:31 PM   #1993
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it looks very similiar to the pics on the top of page 33 of these posts
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Old October 12, 2009, 11:42 PM   #1994
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Then with a serial number of 508690 it would be a .38 Double Action 4th Change made from 1895 to 1909 and look like this:

For parts, try starting here:
http://www.e-gunparts.com/productsch...ION%20REVOLVER

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Old October 12, 2009, 11:47 PM   #1995
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thanks alot it looks like that but the barrel seems shorter...before i start taking the rust off its not a rare model or special right?
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Old October 12, 2009, 11:52 PM   #1996
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If you look at the parts link I posted under the picture you can get barrels in 3, 4, 5 and 6".
Value's not that high... especially if your're removing rust.

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Old October 13, 2009, 07:08 AM   #1997
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Model 60

The Model 60 I posted to ask about all the stamps I would guess is fairly late in Model 60 no-dash production - S/N R246xxx from the 6 digit number. I was assuming it was stainless - glad to have that confirmed.
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Old October 13, 2009, 08:25 AM   #1998
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sinister1811- 1980. The book shows good condition at $335, very good at $400.
The book value is about 2/3 of what a M25-2 would sell for around here.
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Old October 13, 2009, 10:38 AM   #1999
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I appreciate the responses from FlyFish and CarGuyChris. As I said, I am new and do not know the difference between +P and +P+. I will look the up. Stupid question, but does 38 Smith & Wesson Special CTG on the barrel stand for cartridge?
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Old October 13, 2009, 10:49 AM   #2000
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I appreciate the responses from FlyFish and CarGuyChris. As I said, I am new and do not know the difference between +P and +P+. I will look the up. Stupid question, but does 38 Smith & Wesson Special CTG on the barrel stand for cartridge?
Yes.

+P and +P+ indicate 38 Special loads that are above the industry pressure standards for the standard 38 Special load. The +P+ is a very high velocity load and resembles a "light" .357 magnum load in terms of pressure and ballistics. You do not shoot +P+ 38 special loads in anything, but a .357 magnum revolver or one of the old Smith & Wesson Heavy Duty and Outdoorsman revolvers (1930-1966). The danger with +P+ 38 Special is that they will chamber in a standard 38 special revolver but they are designed to be fired in a .357 magnum revolver.

The 38 +P+ load used to be called the 38/44, 38 Super Police and the 38 High Velocity. The Heavy Duty revolver and the 38/44 load were introduced together. I own both and I have a few hundred +P+ 38 special rounds. However I won't shoot those in my Heavy Duty and Outdoorsman revolvers because they are collector items and cost me some money.

However I do shoot +P+ in my Ruger GP100 revolver all the time. No danger there.

If you want to know more about the Heavy Duty and the 38 High Velocity/ +P+/ Super Police/ 38/44 HV go to this website. It's run by a collector of Heavy Duty revolvers and the last page will provide some history.


http://www.38-44heavyduty.com/

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