July 16, 2011, 09:19 AM | #1 |
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New 12GA Shotgun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmSfC4G0sT4
Not Bad Looking |
July 16, 2011, 10:23 AM | #2 |
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2 major flaws in the weapon, 1 being I would always drop the magazine with the push button right on the trigger guard and 2 it woud make me broke from all the shells I would shoot
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July 16, 2011, 11:12 AM | #3 |
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Not Bad LookingYou're entitled to your own opinion, but it's the least aesthetically pleasing shotgun I've ever seen. I'm curious to know what you consider a less attractive shotgun. |
July 16, 2011, 11:21 AM | #4 |
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Another black plastic zombie gun.....BARF
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July 16, 2011, 11:47 AM | #5 |
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wow-wee...
Neato! Uber Awesome even... Brent |
July 16, 2011, 12:00 PM | #6 |
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just another worthless POS!!
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July 16, 2011, 01:28 PM | #7 |
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Whats The best Looking 12 , InYour Opinion ? |
July 16, 2011, 02:00 PM | #8 |
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BuzzGun,
The question isn't what's the best looking shotgun, but what's not bad looking -- I've seen too many fine guns to select a single best looking gun. I tend to favor the Italian designs for form and function. In my professional opinion, here's an example of a not bad looking shotgun: |
July 16, 2011, 02:03 PM | #9 |
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As pretty as the wood is on that gun Zip the O/U just takes away from the overall appearence of the gun, they just stand out and dont appear as slim and sleak as a semi does. Heres a link to my weapon for looks.
http://www.berettausa.com/al391-tekn...-sportingaspx/ |
July 16, 2011, 02:10 PM | #10 |
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Not bad looking, perhaps, but not good looking. Fine for urban combat but not for me.
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July 16, 2011, 02:11 PM | #11 |
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Why would anyone want that gun. Just plain ugleee IMO. Zippy has the right idea off what's good looking. Gotta have nice wood and be blued to be pleasing to my eye.
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July 16, 2011, 02:17 PM | #12 |
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Yep, it's not bad looking, too. However, I've always thought that extended chokes, especially when in a contrasting finish, look like an afterthought. They negate any essence of "sleekness" that a stick gun may have had. |
July 16, 2011, 02:17 PM | #13 |
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Pabuckslayer: How is this for a slim ans sleek gun probably from your state?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39098267@N02/3595835696/ |
July 16, 2011, 02:24 PM | #14 |
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Thats sweet buddy, 36cal too. I bet that thing shoot amazing or havnt you ever shot it? Probably worth a pretty penny these days
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July 16, 2011, 02:25 PM | #15 |
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I seen in your caption you think it could possibly be cut down from a full stock, what leads you to believe this. That would be odd if that was the case
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July 16, 2011, 02:27 PM | #16 |
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You are right Zippy about the ext. chokes on these guns, they appear as a after thought and do take away but to me they give you more options for the gun. If I were to spend 5k on a gun I would want them that way I could use it for more than just one sport. But thats just me
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July 16, 2011, 02:37 PM | #17 |
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Pabuckslayer08,
That O/U P-gun is my only one with screw-ins (flush Brileys in the barrels and tubes) my others have fixed skeet chokes (standard and Tula). |
July 16, 2011, 03:04 PM | #18 |
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PA, I will send you a PM about the black powder rifle, as it is really beyond the scope of the thread.
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July 16, 2011, 03:27 PM | #19 |
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If you look at guns with choke tubes, you see barrel ends that are swaged out to accommodate the tubes - very ugly and messing with the balance and MOI.
Zippy's pic is close to ideal (the gun make is IMO), although I would also have to include his former partner, Ivo. Then there is the Flodman, Bertuzzi, and a whole plethora of SxS makers Plastic works fine for soda bottles, not shotguns |
July 16, 2011, 03:34 PM | #20 |
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I want one. To bad I'm in NJ.
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July 16, 2011, 03:41 PM | #21 |
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this is a beautiful shotgun...
not that black plastic crap from Toys are Us...
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July 16, 2011, 06:14 PM | #22 |
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Hmm. It looks almost like a Saiga with a mag well, a BHO, and a bolt release button.
Also, it's interesting that everyone was messing in their pants about the Akdal MKA 1919, but this one is scorned by everyone. |
July 19, 2011, 12:27 AM | #23 |
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I don't think this is an awful gun or anything like that. I would, however, suggest you check out the (now extremely popular since the TV show "Sons of Guns") outfit Red Jacket Firearms. They do some great shotguns in "the spirit" of what you have picked here- from .410 on up, "AK-style", suppressed, folding stock or even a crazy looking but manageable little 12 gauge almost-handgun. You are sure to find something there up your alley if you like the gun in this youtube.
Personally, I'm more inclined toward the classic looks and feels. I will say that watching "Sons of Guns" and checking out Red Jacket's site has very much impressed me in general- but specifically in regard to these shotguns such as their extremely popular "AK-style" and the small, folding stock tacticals as well. One thing you can be sure of is excellent quality and attention to detail. When a guy decides to make guns because (in his words) "they weren't making stuff well enough for me" ... it makes one at least want to see if he really did achieve a level of quality that such a statement indicates. It seems he and his excellent employees have done just that. AND THEY LOVE SHOTGUNS. |
July 19, 2011, 01:41 AM | #24 |
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Slugo,
Do you own that one?? Or are you just teasing us again?? |
July 19, 2011, 01:57 AM | #25 |
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No, I don't own that one...
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