Obese bg's

Freetacos · November 19, 2006, 02:49 AM

As Americans become increasingly obese, should law abiding citizens in the US consider using increasingly powerful loads to defend themselves from rotound assailants?

jlh26oo · November 19, 2006, 03:02 AM

Makes sense to me.

tomh1426 · November 19, 2006, 03:10 AM

You might also consider a larger caliber for cold weather , Id guess layers of heavy clothes is harder to penitrate than a few inches of fat

Ac1d0v3r1d3 · November 19, 2006, 03:20 AM

i think we should consult TBOT on this. Myabe get some heavy coats, vs defense rounds.
And then some fat (maybe actual animal fat or gelatin) vs defense rounds

Double Naught Spy · November 19, 2006, 06:39 AM

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As Americans become increasingly obese, should law abiding citizens in the US consider using increasingly powerful loads to defend themselves from rotound assailants?

Since the American weight thing has been noticed since at least as early as the 1960s or 70s, I would sort of hope that the ammo you buy now already compensated for that as information on the ammo is based on recent statistics of the last decade, not the first 3/4 of the 1900s. No doubt ammo will continue to change with time as well just as it has been changing since 60s and 70s.

Daves-got-guns · November 19, 2006, 08:32 AM

it does kind of make since. I would worry about 2 inches of extra muscle more then 5-10 inches of extra fat though. But clothing is the big concern especially for hollow points.

Mas Ayoob · November 19, 2006, 09:31 AM

On morbidly obese opponents, the apron of fat tends to contraindicate pelvic shots.

On frontal shots, whether opponent is hugely obese or hugely muscular, there will be little extra covering the sternum.

When in doubt, neither fat nor muscle protects the head.

orionengnr · November 19, 2006, 09:59 AM

What?
You never heard of a Fathead?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Good points, especially the sternum and head.

yomama · November 19, 2006, 10:13 AM

Are we seriously discussing this? Really? This is for real?

WOW

Dino. · November 19, 2006, 11:59 AM

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Also alot of minorities are muscular, from jail steriods or genetics.

Spell check works, but apparently "ignorant check" was turned off.

And is it just me, or does anybody else find it ironic that this thread was started by someone with the username "freetacos"?

UH1-D Rotorhead · November 19, 2006, 12:31 PM

...speechless

Donovan655 · November 19, 2006, 01:08 PM

if BG's are getting progressively fat then it makes it easier to simply outrun them--unless you're just as out of shape. Then yeah i guess getting some .50 AE is like getting ahead of the curve.

[sarcasm off]

Capt. Charlie · November 19, 2006, 01:31 PM

This thread's less than 12 hours old, and it already took the low road. I wonder if that's a new record?

The subject of body mass and heavy clothing is a good one. Feel free to restart it, minus the references to minorities, etc., but this one's closed.

garryc · November 19, 2006, 01:32 PM

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Also alot of minorities are muscular, from jail steriods or genetics.

Guy, that's not just minorities it's inmates of all walks. Basically, you have men with no place to vent anger or sexuality. Men who are used to acting aggressively. They burn that testosterone by lifting, often to exhaustion.
As far as penetration is concerned, I would concern myself with muscle mass over fat mass do to density. I read an article once that stated a cop shot a guy 5 times with reduced recoil #4 buckshot at ranges of 10-20 yards. He hit front back and side. None of the pellets penetrated the thoracic cavity.

November 19, 2006, 02:49 AM	#1
Freetacos Senior Member Join Date: September 20, 2006 Location: California Posts: 441	Obese bg's As Americans become increasingly obese, should law abiding citizens in the US consider using increasingly powerful loads to defend themselves from rotound assailants?

November 19, 2006, 12:31 PM	#11
UH1-D Rotorhead Junior member Join Date: March 15, 2006 Posts: 576	I am left..... *...speechless*

November 19, 2006, 01:31 PM	#13
Capt. Charlie Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 24, 2005 Location: Steubenville, OH Posts: 4,446	This thread's less than 12 hours old, and it already took the low road. I wonder if that's a new record? The subject of body mass and heavy clothing is a good one. Feel free to restart it, minus the references to minorities, etc., but this one's closed. __________________ TFL Members are ambassadors to the world for firearm owners. What kind of ambassador does *your* post make *you?* I train in earnest, to do the things that I pray in earnest, I'll never have to do. --Capt. Charlie

November 19, 2006, 03:02 AM	#2
jlh26oo Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 2006 Posts: 504	Makes sense to me.

November 19, 2006, 03:10 AM	#3
tomh1426 Senior Member Join Date: September 17, 2005 Location: Youngtown Arizona Posts: 1,135	You might also consider a larger caliber for cold weather , Id guess layers of heavy clothes is harder to penitrate than a few inches of fat

November 19, 2006, 03:20 AM	#4
Ac1d0v3r1d3 Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2005 Location: Goldendale, Washington Posts: 439	thats a good questionq i think we should consult TBOT on this. Myabe get some heavy coats, vs defense rounds. And then some fat (maybe actual animal fat or gelatin) vs defense rounds __________________ I aint the worlds best writer nor the best speller But when i believe in something i'm the loudest yeller. Woody Guthrie

November 19, 2006, 08:32 AM	#6
Daves-got-guns Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2006 Location: Marysville Washington Posts: 291	it does kind of make since. I would worry about 2 inches of extra muscle more then 5-10 inches of extra fat though. But clothing is the big concern especially for hollow points.

November 19, 2006, 09:31 AM	#7
Mas Ayoob Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2005 Posts: 249	On morbidly obese opponents, the apron of fat tends to contraindicate pelvic shots. On frontal shots, whether opponent is hugely obese or hugely muscular, there will be little extra covering the sternum. When in doubt, neither fat nor muscle protects the head.

November 19, 2006, 09:59 AM	#8
orionengnr Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2004 Posts: 5,173	What? You never heard of a Fathead? Sorry, couldn't resist. Good points, especially the sternum and head.

November 19, 2006, 10:13 AM	#9
yomama Junior member Join Date: February 28, 2006 Posts: 509	Are we seriously discussing this? Really? This is for real? WOW

November 19, 2006, 01:08 PM	#12
Donovan655 Senior Member Join Date: February 17, 2006 Posts: 138	if BG's are getting progressively fat then it makes it easier to simply outrun them--unless you're just as out of shape. Then yeah i guess getting some .50 AE is like getting ahead of the curve. [sarcasm off]