Sheepdog Tackles Man With Gun... - Page 2

Jim567 · January 23, 2015, 12:29 PM

The man who was attacked looked and dressed like a solid, middle class, middle aged citizen period.

He wasn't covering his face, dressing and acting like a thug, or giving indication of criminal intent --

He did let slip a peek of his legally concealed weapon.

It could have happened to any of us.

I am just upset over the attackers actions sorry

.

Cheers

Kimio · January 23, 2015, 12:34 PM

In such a situation, if one was confronted with a hostile scenario, would it even be wise to use your gun, given the density of people roaming about?

The chances of shooting someone that you would not intend to would be rather high I imagine.

Jim567 · January 23, 2015, 12:45 PM

Sorry to ramble but -

How in the world didn't the attacker give thought the man wasn't an off duty policeman!!!!!

nightowl64 · January 23, 2015, 12:57 PM

Unless I am in the field...I keep a gun hidden or cased (if transporting)..I don't want attention from others nor hassle. As to the attacker, he earned those bracelets.

nightowl64 · January 23, 2015, 12:58 PM

Quote:

How in the world didn't the attacker give thought the man wasn't an off duty policeman!!!!!

Because he doesn't think clearly.

Herluf · January 23, 2015, 02:50 PM

Quote:

How in the world didn't the attacker give thought the man wasn't an off duty policeman!!!!!

The report said that Daniels was 62. Which might lean the duffus toward not thinking he was cop. However it makes me take the racial element even more seriously. I can't see inside Foster's head, but this whole incident raises some racial red flags.

Very glad charges were filed.

Sevens · January 23, 2015, 04:04 PM

I was discussing this with my shooting buddy. On range days and gun show days, we spend what amounts to a long day together out and going to different places. Certainly to restaurants, gas stations and retail stores.

If this had happened to either one of us, the other one of us would have reacted with our handgun. And while it is simply NOT possible to "plan" a situation and each situation evolves however it evolves, if my buddy is the one being tackled and I am the armed friend witnessing this happening, I've got a real situation on my hand right from the get-go, but it turns a page IF/WHEN idiot do-gooder citizen guy makes the decision to reach for that holstered handgun on my friend.

In fact, if the citizen guy is being charged with assault and battery, should a firearm charge be tacked on top if that gun came out of the holster by anyone other than it's owner or a sworn LEO?

Easy to sit around after the fact and find out the background and "intentions" of do-gooder bystander guy. But when someone is tackled and placed in to a choke-hold and a loaded handgun is present, there are only seconds to predict what may or may happen next.

If the legal and licensed 62-yr old guy in this story had been with -HIS- best shooting buddy at the Wal-Mart, the do-gooder idiot might be leaking from holes and this would not play well for licensed gun folks in the lamestream media.

TailGator · January 23, 2015, 05:24 PM

My thoughts went along the same lines: If someone physically attacks me and goes for my gun, I am fighting with everything I have, because I have been given every reason to think that my life is in immediate danger.

In a state with over 1.3 million concealed weapons permits, assuming that everyone with a gun is a bad guy is a special kind of stupid.

Ozzieman · January 23, 2015, 07:21 PM

I’ve seen some stupid people doing stupid acts but that one takes the cake.
If someone attacked me like that moron I would have defended myself. And I wouldn’t have allowed him to hump me like the moron did.
I think sexual battery was also needed. Not making a joke.

Double Naught Spy · January 23, 2015, 08:15 PM

Well, that is pretty funny because there was no sexual battery, LOL. There was no humping evident on the video. The police have reviewed the video and made their charges and for good reason they didn't include sexual battery.

Capt. Charlie · January 23, 2015, 08:27 PM

OK, so what do we take away from this? Don't commit an act of stupidity in a public place (or a private place, for that matter

)

As to any racial element, we have no idea what was going through Mr. Sheepdog's mind, so let's not even go there.

Interesting thread, but it's run its course.

Closed.

January 23, 2015, 04:04 PM	#32
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,755	I was discussing this with my shooting buddy. On range days and gun show days, we spend what amounts to a long day together out and going to different places. Certainly to restaurants, gas stations and retail stores. If this had happened to either one of us, the other one of us would have reacted with our handgun. And while it is simply NOT possible to "plan" a situation and each situation evolves however it evolves, if my buddy is the one being tackled and I am the armed friend witnessing this happening, I've got a real situation on my hand right from the get-go, but it turns a page IF/WHEN idiot do-gooder citizen guy makes the decision to reach for that holstered handgun on my friend. In fact, if the citizen guy is being charged with assault and battery, should a firearm charge be tacked on top if that gun came out of the holster by anyone other than it's owner or a sworn LEO? Easy to sit around after the fact and find out the background and "intentions" of do-gooder bystander guy. But when someone is tackled and placed in to a choke-hold and a loaded handgun is present, there are only seconds to predict what may or may happen next. If the legal and licensed 62-yr old guy in this story had been with -HIS- best shooting buddy at the Wal-Mart, the do-gooder idiot might be leaking from holes and this would not play well for licensed gun folks in the lamestream media. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

January 23, 2015, 07:21 PM	#34
Ozzieman Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 6,117	I’ve seen some stupid people doing stupid acts but that one takes the cake. If someone attacked me like that moron I would have defended myself. And I wouldn’t have allowed him to hump me like the moron did. I think sexual battery was also needed. Not making a joke. __________________ It was a sad day when I discovered my universal remote control did not in fact control the universe. Did you hear about the latest study.....5 out of 6 liberals say that Russian Roulette is safe.

January 23, 2015, 08:15 PM	#35
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,716	Well, that is pretty funny because there was no sexual battery, LOL. There was no humping evident on the video. The police have reviewed the video and made their charges and for good reason they didn't include sexual battery. __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

January 23, 2015, 08:27 PM	#36
Capt. Charlie Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 24, 2005 Location: Steubenville, OH Posts: 4,446	OK, so what do we take away from this? Don't commit an act of stupidity in a public place (or a private place, for that matter ) As to any racial element, we have no idea what was going through Mr. Sheepdog's mind, so let's not even go there. Interesting thread, but it's run its course. Closed. __________________ TFL Members are ambassadors to the world for firearm owners. What kind of ambassador does *your* post make *you?* I train in earnest, to do the things that I pray in earnest, I'll never have to do. --Capt. Charlie

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January 23, 2015, 12:29 PM	#26
Jim567 Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2014 Location: NE FL Posts: 656	The man who was attacked looked and dressed like a solid, middle class, middle aged citizen period. He wasn't covering his face, dressing and acting like a thug, or giving indication of criminal intent -- He did let slip a peek of his legally concealed weapon. It could have happened to any of us. I am just upset over the attackers actions sorry . Cheers

January 23, 2015, 12:34 PM	#27
Kimio Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,171	In such a situation, if one was confronted with a hostile scenario, would it even be wise to use your gun, given the density of people roaming about? The chances of shooting someone that you would not intend to would be rather high I imagine.

January 23, 2015, 12:45 PM	#28
Jim567 Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2014 Location: NE FL Posts: 656	Sorry to ramble but - How in the world didn't the attacker give thought the man wasn't an off duty policeman!!!!!

January 23, 2015, 12:57 PM	#29
nightowl64 Member Join Date: January 11, 2015 Posts: 66	Unless I am in the field...I keep a gun hidden or cased (if transporting)..I don't want attention from others nor hassle. As to the attacker, he earned those bracelets.

January 23, 2015, 05:24 PM	#33
TailGator Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,787	My thoughts went along the same lines: If someone physically attacks me and goes for my gun, I am fighting with everything I have, because I have been given every reason to think that my life is in immediate danger. In a state with over 1.3 million concealed weapons permits, assuming that everyone with a gun is a bad guy is a special kind of stupid.