Mossberg 500 At Idle - Page 2

VA Gent · September 12, 2010, 11:48 AM

Silence is GOLDEN! I have the advantage of knowing my layout best. The sound of a gun cycling or any sound for that matter gives away my position and betrays my plan of action... STEALTH...

Since not every one is going to defecate in their spiderman under-roos at the sound of the gun cycling, I am not going to risk it...

We are on the same page here! The guest sitting in "HIS" house has already premeditated visiting "YOUR" house. I feel sure New_Pollution1086 would agree but I'd like his or her input. The uninvited is already light years ahead of the homeowner mentally while they work their plan. You have to come up to speed and pass this jerk- (and this is my whole point of being quite as possible) - get your self together while considering your loved one, take his element of surprise and throw it in his face before he or she greets you. Keep them off balance best possible. That means many things happening pretty fast. Keep your cool though and keep the end in mind. Theres always a cup of coffee, beer, whatever you like when it's over. This isn't hollywood, things can go either way but it's your house, everything there is yours...keep it!

hogdogs · September 12, 2010, 01:44 PM

VA, I wrap my hand around the ejection port to insure the slowly cycled round won't fall out... Your hand around the receiver also adds a bit of muffling to any metallic sounds. Then I cycle it slowly... I guess "silent" isn't 100% accurate but it is VERY quiet and nothing about the sound is familiar as that coming from a gun action.

Brent

Pezo · September 16, 2010, 04:09 PM

I'd say leave safety off and alone. Have magazine downloaded a round or two so the shells don't bulge over time. Chamber empty. If you have time to get the shotgun, racking it doesn't take long. Short stroking shouldn't happen especially if you practice and shoot it regularly
. Safety only good for securing weapon after you have used it maybe. I say rack and fire is the best.

SigP6Carry · September 16, 2010, 08:18 PM

I never even thought of rounds bulging. Now I'm afraid.... truly afraid.... I might down-load my tube, now.

hogdogs · September 16, 2010, 08:26 PM

Thomme, if you ain't using a HEAVY mag spring, don't even worry with it... Left loaded for years and no issues... I think it was heavy springs in guns carried in vehicles where vibrations and bumps could exaggerate the problem...

I don't know if modern hulls would even be susceptible... ever...

Brent

VA Gent · September 18, 2010, 05:49 PM

Brent, I cleaned & lubed that Mossberg 500 the other day. It's been in the box since new...bought it 12 years ago. Guess it was a bit dry. Cycling noise reduced a good 50% or more. Still louder than I would prefer but it is what it is. I picked up a single shot 410 pistol with 11" brl. It's black also and dead quiet! Between the 2, I'm good to go.

VA Gent · September 18, 2010, 05:57 PM

Pezo - I have no idea what you mean by short stroking. The original intent was to leave a round in the chamber at all times. This Mossberg ( maybe other brands will also ) readies the hammer if the lever is pulled back a mere 1/4" or less. THATS a short stroke to me. Takes a fraction of a second with a fraction of the noise....yes...the noise that lets someone know where your located. As Brent mentioned, "silence is golden and in most cases, very rewarding".

therealdeal · September 25, 2010, 02:42 AM

I might have to rethink my position and/or speak to some of my buddies again after reading these posts. I was told not to leave one in the chamber due to expansion over time or something of the sort?? I also can fit 7 in the tube(mag) but the 7th doesn't make it by much, and I was told that you can store 7 in the tube(preferrably 6), but like a semiauto you need to empty the weapon every now and then instead of allowing it to sit for long periods of time since the spring is not relaxed. va gent said he might let his sit. anyways, I don't doubt the posts here; this is just what I heard(ex:my buddy doesn't let his semiauto sit for long, long periods of time like he does with his revolvers+same thing for shotgun he said. I have firearms fully loaded and ready to go but I have revolvers and had been curious about his semis so thats how it came up(I was also asking about my shotgun because mine too might sit longer than some other peoples might).I guess he was wrong, but he has been around guns his whole life. I have other weapons fully loaded, but my shotgun at the moment has the rounds next to it ready to go in a jiffy

VA Gent · September 26, 2010, 07:15 PM

therealdeal, I guess it depends on your gun. Mine wont let a round sit in the chamber without the hammer/pin resting on the shell. I have a sawed off that will though. It has been loaded for many years with no problems. My home defense is a Mossberg 500. I put 4 rounds in the mag and left it at that with spares in the night stand. That keeps the spring compressed but not by much. The sawed off is a 12G Stevens. Between the 2, someones gonna wish he went elsewhere.

FairWarning · September 26, 2010, 07:30 PM

Chambering a round in a Mossberg 500 might be enough to end your conflict by itself.

VA Gent · September 26, 2010, 07:39 PM

It could go either way. Chambering that thing will let anyone know where I am though.

September 16, 2010, 04:09 PM	#28
Pezo Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2005 Location: Vernors and orange barrels. Posts: 661	I'd say leave safety off and alone. Have magazine downloaded a round or two so the shells don't bulge over time. Chamber empty. If you have time to get the shotgun, racking it doesn't take long. Short stroking shouldn't happen especially if you practice and shoot it regularly . Safety only good for securing weapon after you have used it maybe. I say rack and fire is the best. Last edited by Pezo; September 16, 2010 at 06:33 PM.

September 16, 2010, 08:18 PM	#29
SigP6Carry Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2009 Posts: 1,086	I never even thought of rounds bulging. Now I'm afraid.... truly afraid.... I might down-load my tube, now. __________________ -liberal gun nut = exception to the rule- -1.24274238 miles, because Russians don't need scopes- -Gun control was the Klan's favorite law, how can you advocate a set of laws designed to allow the denigration of a people?-

September 25, 2010, 02:42 AM	#33
therealdeal Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2010 Posts: 627	I might have to rethink my position and/or speak to some of my buddies again after reading these posts. I was told not to leave one in the chamber due to expansion over time or something of the sort?? I also can fit 7 in the tube(mag) but the 7th doesn't make it by much, and I was told that you can store 7 in the tube(preferrably 6), but like a semiauto you need to empty the weapon every now and then instead of allowing it to sit for long periods of time since the spring is not relaxed. va gent said he might let his sit. anyways, I don't doubt the posts here; this is just what I heard(ex:my buddy doesn't let his semiauto sit for long, long periods of time like he does with his revolvers+same thing for shotgun he said. I have firearms fully loaded and ready to go but I have revolvers and had been curious about his semis so thats how it came up(I was also asking about my shotgun because mine too might sit longer than some other peoples might).I guess he was wrong, but he has been around guns his whole life. I have other weapons fully loaded, but my shotgun at the moment has the rounds next to it ready to go in a jiffy __________________ NRA Distinguished Life Member "Abraham Lincoln freed all men, but Sam Colt made them all equal." (post Civil War slogan)

September 26, 2010, 07:30 PM	#35
FairWarning Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2008 Location: GA Posts: 1,149	Chambering a round in a Mossberg 500 might be enough to end your conflict by itself. __________________ Mauser Werke, Schmidt-Rubin, Colt, Walther, HK, Weatherby, Sig Sauer, Browning, Ruger, Beretta, etc, etc....a few friends of mine

September 12, 2010, 11:48 AM	#26
VA Gent Member Join Date: September 6, 2010 Posts: 62	Silence is GOLDEN! I have the advantage of knowing my layout best. The sound of a gun cycling or any sound for that matter gives away my position and betrays my plan of action... STEALTH... Since not every one is going to defecate in their spiderman under-roos at the sound of the gun cycling, I am not going to risk it... We are on the same page here! The guest sitting in "HIS" house has already premeditated visiting "YOUR" house. I feel sure New_Pollution1086 would agree but I'd like his or her input. The uninvited is already light years ahead of the homeowner mentally while they work their plan. You have to come up to speed and pass this jerk- (and this is my whole point of being quite as possible) - get your self together while considering your loved one, take his element of surprise and throw it in his face before he or she greets you. Keep them off balance best possible. That means many things happening pretty fast. Keep your cool though and keep the end in mind. Theres always a cup of coffee, beer, whatever you like when it's over. This isn't hollywood, things can go either way but it's your house, everything there is yours...keep it!

September 12, 2010, 01:44 PM	#27
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	VA, I wrap my hand around the ejection port to insure the slowly cycled round won't fall out... Your hand around the receiver also adds a bit of muffling to any metallic sounds. Then I cycle it slowly... I guess "silent" isn't 100% accurate but it is VERY quiet and nothing about the sound is familiar as that coming from a gun action. Brent

September 16, 2010, 08:26 PM	#30
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Thomme, if you ain't using a HEAVY mag spring, don't even worry with it... Left loaded for years and no issues... I think it was heavy springs in guns carried in vehicles where vibrations and bumps could exaggerate the problem... I don't know if modern hulls would even be susceptible... ever... Brent

September 18, 2010, 05:49 PM	#31
VA Gent Member Join Date: September 6, 2010 Posts: 62	Brent, I cleaned & lubed that Mossberg 500 the other day. It's been in the box since new...bought it 12 years ago. Guess it was a bit dry. Cycling noise reduced a good 50% or more. Still louder than I would prefer but it is what it is. I picked up a single shot 410 pistol with 11" brl. It's black also and dead quiet! Between the 2, I'm good to go.

September 18, 2010, 05:57 PM	#32
VA Gent Member Join Date: September 6, 2010 Posts: 62	Pezo - I have no idea what you mean by short stroking. The original intent was to leave a round in the chamber at all times. This Mossberg ( maybe other brands will also ) readies the hammer if the lever is pulled back a mere 1/4" or less. THATS a short stroke to me. Takes a fraction of a second with a fraction of the noise....yes...the noise that lets someone know where your located. As Brent mentioned, "silence is golden and in most cases, very rewarding".

September 26, 2010, 07:15 PM	#34
VA Gent Member Join Date: September 6, 2010 Posts: 62	therealdeal, I guess it depends on your gun. Mine wont let a round sit in the chamber without the hammer/pin resting on the shell. I have a sawed off that will though. It has been loaded for many years with no problems. My home defense is a Mossberg 500. I put 4 rounds in the mag and left it at that with spares in the night stand. That keeps the spring compressed but not by much. The sawed off is a 12G Stevens. Between the 2, someones gonna wish he went elsewhere.

September 26, 2010, 07:39 PM	#36
VA Gent Member Join Date: September 6, 2010 Posts: 62	It could go either way. Chambering that thing will let anyone know where I am though.