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Old April 16, 2019, 02:57 PM   #1
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Charter arms boomer(44spl) vs ruger lcr(327)

So I'm considering getting a pocket revolver and I haven't been happy with the common 38 spl products out there. I'm not recoil sensitive, and I have, and have shot several full size revolvers. Trying to stay 20oz or less, My logic in these options is that if I'm gonna be limited to 5 shots I want the largest caliber possible, within reason for weight, and if I want six shots I like the reviews and research I've seen on the 327. If anyone has insight into these, or recommendations I would appreciate it. I'm really having a hard time deciding between them. I like the multiple caliber options of the 327 and the ballistics I've read, but not the ammo cost, and I like the versatility and class of the 44spl and the fact that boomer just fits in my weight preference. feel free to get picky. I've over analyzed the decision myself and am coming to you for how other minds and experience might look at this. I'll provide links to them:

https://charterfirearms.com/products/boomer

https://ruger.com/products/lcr/specSheets/5452.html

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Old April 16, 2019, 03:04 PM   #2
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Might want to look at the Kimber K6 because it's the same size as the LCR and holds 6 rounds of .357. I can pocket carry it, but today working around the property, I am carrying it in a belly band and hardly notice it's there any more than my LCR or even lighter 3" LCRX.

Expensive but worth every cent.
It's not any larger than the LCR .327 and the ammo is more avaiable and cheaper.

The charter arms cannot shoot the really hot BB .44 special woods loads.
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Old April 16, 2019, 03:17 PM   #3
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Here is a different perspective: there is a lot to be said for the tradition and history that resonates with you.

My opinion is you will never fire your handgun in a combat situation and if you did even .22 LR would do the job. But that’s no fun.

.44 Special is “the hammer.” It has a rich and fabulous history and story. There is nothing intrinsically great about the Charter gun. Except it’s made in the USA, made by a company with a long history in the business, and since it’s a belly gun all it really need do is go bang. If someone gave me one, I would never sell it. It’s a cool lump of steel.

I often identify myself as a “ruger guy” and the history of the .32’s is fabulous. The LCRs don’t have history, they are “what if Ruger made radical space age revolvers in the middle of the “gotta have a Glock” era? A little bit of ancient history and a little bit of hypermodernism in the anachronism of being a revolver. I want one. I want a 3 inch lcrx in .327 but unless Talo orders some up it will never happen.

Both are cool. Neither ever said “failure to feed”.

If you can’t have both today, why not get the one that gives you the warmest fuzzy feeling and make plans to save up and get the other.. use them both... see if one becomes “your go-to” gun?

I like your dilemma, man! You are stuck on the wide ends of the revolver options... biggest most traditional hammer or smallest fastest newest scalpel. How can you pick?
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Old April 16, 2019, 03:25 PM   #4
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Here is a different perspective: there is a lot to be said for the tradition and history that resonates with you.

My opinion is you will never fire your handgun in a combat situation and if you did even .22 LR would do the job. But that’s no fun.

.44 Special is “the hammer.” It has a rich and fabulous history and story. There is nothing intrinsically great about the Charter gun. Except it’s made in the USA, made by a company with a long history in the business, and since it’s a belly gun all it really need do is go bang. If someone gave me one, I would never sell it. It’s a cool lump of steel.

I often identify myself as a “ruger guy” and the history of the .32’s is fabulous. The LCRs don’t have history, they are “what if Ruger made radical space age revolvers in the middle of the “gotta have a Glock” era? A little bit of ancient history and a little bit of hypermodernism in the anachronism of being a revolver. I want one. I want a 3 inch lcrx in .327 but unless Talo orders some up it will never happen.

Both are cool. Neither ever said “failure to feed”.

If you can’t have both today, why not get the one that gives you the warmest fuzzy feeling and make plans to save up and get the other.. use them both... see if one becomes “your go-to” gun?

I like your dilemma, man! You are stuck on the wide ends of the revolver options... biggest most traditional hammer or smallest fastest newest scalpel. How can you pick?
Great insight into my heart and soul! Are you a psychiatrist or minister? I might have to get both, but then I still have to decide which one do I get first. ahhhhhhhh
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Old April 16, 2019, 05:16 PM   #5
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The 44 special ammo is no less expensive than the 327.
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Old April 16, 2019, 06:07 PM   #6
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I have a bulldog. It fits in some J frame holsters. Its a fun gun. I am a handloader. It has never shot factory ammo. Accuracy is great if you can shoot it. The factory grip caused me trouble, so I replaced it with a Pacmayr. This made a huge difference.
I like the 44 special. Its a 240 grain bullet around 800 fps. I have had it pull bullets that were not crimped properly. Only once, but it happened.

I also blew the top off one by using some unknown reloads. I called Charter the next day. The girl that answered the phone was the daughter. I told her exactly what happened. It was only a few days old. She sent a label and they replaced it. No charge. That was a few years ago. I still carry it now and then.
While riding my bicycle, I pulled into my own yard. A dog charged me. I pulled the bulldog from a shoulder holster and put a round in the dirt right in front of it. Between getting sprayed with dirt and the BANG made it exit my yard in a hurry.
I also have a 3" Smith and Wesson 624 from the custom shop. Its a whole different gun. Too big and heavy to carry, but its a blast to shoot bowling pins with .

I have shot steel pins with the Bulldog a couple times. Slow and steady, it will hit them at 30 feet.

Deciding between 327 and 44 special is your decision.

A K6 is in a whole different league.


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Old April 16, 2019, 07:10 PM   #7
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I own a Boomer and the pros are it's a .44 spec, nice big serious round, definitely conceals well and has an incredible muzzle flash due to a ported barrel. The cons are no front sight, it's 14 oz empty and the trigger is serrated. That all adds up to a scary getthe-CENSORED--CENSORED--CENSORED--CENSORED-offme gun that'll put a hurt on what's on the business end, BUT, be prepared for a stout recoil, not hitting anything that isn't three feet in front of you and your trigger finger chewed on by the serrated trigger. That said, and in spite of,. it's my regular CCW backup to my regular CW45 or SR 1911 Commander carry. It's a GOOD gun. BTW, I recommend Underwood .44 Spec full wadcutters. Good luck on your selection.
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Old April 16, 2019, 10:34 PM   #8
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If you don’t reload, neither one is really a best option.

That being said I have both. Well, not the boomer, just a regular one.
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Old April 17, 2019, 03:40 AM   #9
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You might like the Ruger LCR in 9mm. Ammo is cheap and everywhere, 17.2 oz, comfy stock Hogue grip, and there's a smaller Hogue Bantam grip which helps with pocket carry for about $20+.
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Old April 17, 2019, 01:31 PM   #10
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Really your choice.

I prefer the .44 Special myself (I reload) and have the Bulldog just for concealed carry and house gun. It is a gun that, IMHO, is not meant to be shot a lot. Just handy. I have other .44 Special revolvers for practice. I used to bring it to the range once a month for a few (10 or so) rounds down range, but now it rarely gets out at all. Can't comment on LCRs as I don't have any of those revolvers.
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Old April 17, 2019, 06:29 PM   #11
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Might want to look at the Kimber K6 because it's the same size as the LCR and holds 6 rounds of .357.
Are you certain about that? I've never weighed or measured either revolver but I've hefted and handled them side by side at a lgs and the Kimber seemed to be significantly larger and heavier than the Ruger. Or so it "seemed".
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Old April 17, 2019, 06:42 PM   #12
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if the gun was for me only, I'd opt for the bulldog if I could check the cylinder and crane/toke slop wasn't there as usual.
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Old April 17, 2019, 08:43 PM   #13
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Are you certain about that? I've never weighed or measured either revolver but I've hefted and handled them side by side at a lgs and the Kimber seemed to be significantly larger and heavier than the Ruger. Or so it "seemed".
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I have them both. The Kimber is just slightly larger because it has a 2.5" barrel and the LCR is 1 7/8 and the cylinder is just a tad larger in diameter. The LCR weights in at 17 to 18 ounces empty and the Kimber at 23 to 24 so about 7 ounces heavier.

But for all practical puposed, I can pocket carry both easily, both feel the same size in AIWB and carrying IWB or OWB, the weigh difference doesn't feel that much. In the photos the LCR has very tiny grips I made and the Kimber oversized so don't go by the grips, just the frames.
First pic, side by side:

Second pic, LCR on top of Kimber K6 (hiding it) You'll notice that the trigger guard is larger on the LCR as well. The LCR will not fit into the desantis holster for the Kimber K6 as the guard is too large.

Third pic, muzzle to muzzle comparison. Look at the frames, not the grip size which can be changed around.
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Old April 17, 2019, 09:21 PM   #14
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I have them both. The Kimber is just slightly larger because it has a 2.5" barrel and the LCR is 1 7/8 and the cylinder is just a tad larger in diameter. The LCR weights in at 17 to 18 ounces empty and the Kimber at 23 to 24 so about 7 ounces heavier.
Your Kimber has a 2.5" barrel? It looks like a 2.0" barrel. Which model is it that has a 2.5" barrel?
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You're right, I had a brain fart. 2' it is!
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Old April 19, 2019, 05:57 PM   #16
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The LCR weights in at 17 to 18 ounces empty and the Kimber at 23 to 24 so about 7 ounces heavier.

But for all practical puposed, I can pocket carry both easily, both feel the same size in AIWB and carrying IWB or OWB, the weigh difference doesn't feel that much.
Thanks for the information, HighValleyRanch, but a revolver weighing almost a half a pound heavier than one weighing 17 to 18 ounces, is six or seven ounces heavier than I want in a gun being carried in my pocket. Just my opinion, of course.
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Old April 19, 2019, 10:09 PM   #17
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I've always wanted a boomer with wood stocks and a tyler t-grip
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Charter Arms doesn't have a great reputation for quality, or at least durability. That gun will kind of limit you to fairly pedestrian loads, at low speed which doesn't really put in the same category as the faster rounds that reportedly "stop faster". Not sure the porting will do you any favors if you need to shoot in a dimly lit parking lot, or in an enclosed space for that matter.

I ignore the sights and just rip up a target at typical confrontation ranges, but it doesn't help you pull off an accurate shot at a target that just took cover when you have no sights at all, and a long DAO trigger.

I'd give Ruger the edge for quality, the sights, and an extra round.

But I'd also give the SP-101 in .357 a look. I like the option of cocking it, and having the extra power.

I'd prefer a .44 Special for a woods gun, and I think it would be hard to beat the GP-100 with a 3" bbl. for that. Or an old Rossi. But both of those are probably a little heavier and bulkier than what you're looking for right now.
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Charter Arms doesn't have a great reputation for quality, or at least durability. That gun will kind of limit you to fairly pedestrian loads, at low speed which doesn't really put in the same category as the faster rounds that reportedly "stop faster". Not sure the porting will do you any favors if you need to shoot in a dimly lit parking lot, or in an enclosed space for that matter.

I ignore the sights and just rip up a target at typical confrontation ranges, but it doesn't help you pull off an accurate shot at a target that just took cover when you have no sights at all, and a long DAO trigger.

I'd give Ruger the edge for quality, the sights, and an extra round.

But I'd also give the SP-101 in .357 a look. I like the option of cocking it, and having the extra power.

I'd prefer a .44 Special for a woods gun, and I think it would be hard to beat the GP-100 with a 3" bbl. for that. Or an old Rossi. But both of those are probably a little heavier and bulkier than what you're looking for right now.
I did some investigating before I recently ordered a Charter Arms revolver. The early ones apparently were well regarded and a change in ownership caused a quality drop before they were bought back and their quality and reputation were restored. Their current revolvers (that's all they make) have a lifetime warranty and their reputation to take care of issues is good. I chose a Charter Arms 22lr because the cost was about half of what a Smith or Ruger costs.
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I like to shoot my revolvers frequently, which would rule out the Boomer. I've already shot one Bulldog loose with about 200 mild 240gr. loads. Also not impressed with the internal parts and design of the Charter Arms revolvers.
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