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January 9, 2009, 07:03 AM | #26 |
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That old 6.5 Swed after 113 years will still out shoot .308s
old Sneaky here: I'm prejudice Cuz I own and shoot a gevar m41/B Swed Sniper and the 6.5 projectile will and does out shoot the .308 and everyone knows it. To lengthen barrel life use Moly in the bore and projectiles-it works and everyone knows it-even G. David Tubb as he uses it and so does Old Sneaky. Now it's no mystery that gun manufactures come up with "New" rifles and/or cartridges not because they'r good guys but to make MONEY. If they don't they'd be out of business. So what's my point?--I you've got the dough and want to spend it on something New & Shiney --go for it--but that doesn't mean that it's better than what's been out there for 113 years. OBTW Who has and sells 6.5-160gr Match projectiles in the same BC range as the 140gr range?? I shoot Lapua Scenar 139gr with a BC of .619 and I was under the impression that the 160gr (which was the Origional weight of the 6.5X55 Swed) is a Round Nose projectile origionally developed for War but the Sweds finally changed it to 139gr- The 160 gr is a great huntng round for up to moose but I use my 139gr Scenar for hunting Cuz I put my shot where I want it. THANX--SNEAKY
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January 11, 2009, 11:37 PM | #27 |
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Maybe it's time to put a heavier barrel in my .264 Win mag ...
but the pre-64 Winchester Model 70 fans would be hunting my hide. Hopefully the hoopla, or at least self interest, will get some more 6.5 bullets available for my rifle. |
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The O.P. contains numerous factual errors, e.g.
* Tubb had nothing to do with 6.5 CM, it was Dennis DeMille * .260 is hands-down better than .308 for long-range but I want to correct the misunderstanding that stubbicatt posted because I have seen it repeated several times elsewhere (thanks for the compliment too by the way): Quote:
thanks -z
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April 1, 2009, 05:59 PM | #29 | |
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Pulled targets this weekend with a shooter who uses a 6.5 Grendel. He is getting 4000 rounds through his tube.
He uses reduced loads for 100 yard Highpower matches, and maybe 200 yards. He shoots a AR variant and it is very accurate. When comparing wind dope at 300 yards and 600 yards with the 6.5 Grendel shooters, I had similiar windage for my 168's at 300, and 175's at 600. Not like the situation when I was squadded with a 6.5-08 shooter at Perry. I had a .223 AR service rifle, and double the windage he had at 600 yards. Quote:
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November 19, 2009, 08:23 PM | #30 |
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After Reading This And Getting Informed On Barrel Lifle I Believe Ill Stick With The .308 I Dont Know About You Guys.
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November 19, 2009, 08:30 PM | #31 |
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See Zak Smith
A definitive work on the merits of the 6.5 target rounds.
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November 19, 2009, 08:37 PM | #32 |
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I guess ChancePendergrass is resurrecting a bunch of old threads today.
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January 25, 2011, 09:52 AM | #33 | |
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January 25, 2011, 11:48 AM | #34 |
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There is a lot of demand for mid-size 6.5mm cartridges-- I think enough room for 6.5x47, 6.5 Creedmoor, and .260. Lapua's .260 brass will be showing up on the scene in a few months.
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September 21, 2011, 11:46 PM | #35 |
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Ar with (junk) trigger
Not so. Mine shoots -1/2 in at 100 yds and 3/4 moa at 600 yds. Yes a sanctioned shoot 4in group w 600yds. 70gr berger vld and 25gr varget. 18 in barrell, 2 stage rra trigger, tac inovat I ons forged lower top of with 2-7 leopold vx2. All ar, sorry.
Of course I have 2 308's that'll do the same. But I like creedmoore an 6 norma too. 308 is nice, love mine, but it's not the do all, end all like some posters seem t pop think! Liten up , it,s all fun... New guy here, so hi! Lessdrop |
September 21, 2011, 11:52 PM | #36 |
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I've researched the 6.5 thoroughly.... I like what it does and it gives me an excuse to buy another gun
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September 23, 2011, 08:18 AM | #37 |
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I know I'm responding to someone who posted in January who was responding to someone a couple years ago...
But the .260 is going to be way more popular than the 6.5 CM in 2/4/8/10 years. It is the .308 necked down, has better factory brass availability (Lapua/Nosler/Remington/Norma/Federal), and target shooters are buying them like hotcakes. If/when Federal comes out with a GMM load for .260 it will sound the death knell for the other target 6.5's. They will stay around forever, as target shooters are a picky bunch and don't mind playing with odd calibers, but the train will have left the station. The 6.5 CM will go the way of the .30 TC - great cartridge, but can't compete with the .308 family. |
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I like the 6.5s, too. I have two 6.5x55s and a Grendel. I am going to get another, and have been vacillating between 260 and Creedmoor, in a Savage Weather Warrior, primarily for hunting. I am totally frustrated about which to choose. I was leaning toward the Creedmoor, but am now leaning the other way, due to some of the comments here and on other forums, i.e., ammo availability, staying-power of the round, etc. Can anyone guide me here? I do not reload, and I've seen more ammo available for the 260 than the CM, but I may also want to get a 6.5 upper for one of my AR-10 platforms, and was leaning toward the CM because of it working better in that platform, and because it has been said that the 260 is too long for the magazines with heavier bullets.
Any help with my decision will be greatly appreciated. |
September 23, 2011, 12:14 PM | #39 |
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If you plan on hunting get the 260 Rem.
If you plan on competing get the 6.5 Creedmoor. It really is that simple. Jimro
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Thank you so much, Jimro. You don't know how much that helps me. Now I can sleep at night. LOL I'm gonna get the Savage Weather Warrior in 260 and not look back. Do you think that is a good platform? Since I'm left handed, my options are limited.
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I've seen a factor of 10 more .260's in LR matches than 6.5 CM's.
The component availability and selection is much better for .260. More factory ammo is available for .260, and more will be available in the near future.
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September 23, 2011, 02:59 PM | #42 |
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Detachable or hinged floorplate mag?
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September 23, 2011, 03:16 PM | #43 |
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Also, will the 22" barrel do the round justice for hunting/general shooting?
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I'm not sure where Jimro shoots - but out here on the east coast the .260 outnumbers the 6.5 CM by a large margin.
If you plan on competing, get the .260 as well - IMHO. |
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20rds Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor 26 bucks or less. http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/Brow...g=653***690*** 20 Rounds Corbon or Black Hills 260 Rem match ammo 37 bucks or more? http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/Brow...g=653***690*** Maybe I should have explained basic economics in my previous response.... Jimro
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September 24, 2011, 08:02 AM | #46 |
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Jimro,
He answered .260 after you mentioned that .260 was better for hunting, 6.5 for competition, leading me to assume that he prefers hunting. .260 has more loads available for that (heck, I just stocked up on a Cabelas sale of Remington 140gr Core-Lokts for $20.99) Also, that .260 Cor-Bon match load is available for around $32 online, and even at my LGS, + it is loaded with Lapua brass, which he can sell after he shoots. |
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Yes, it will be used mostly for hunting, but I'll be doing paper shooting too, but not long range, because I don't have access to anything beyond 300 yds.
As to the hinged vs detachable magazine, and the 22" barrel. Will that barrel allow the 260 to perform decently? Thanks. I appreciate your suggestions. |
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The 260 Rem started out as a hunting round (hence the plethora of hunting loads) and migrated to a match round. The 6.5 Hornady started out as a match round, and I don't think there are any hunting loads for it yet. I guess I should have been more specific and listed out the reasoning behind recommending 6.5 for matches for a non-reloader and the 260 Rem for hunting for a non-reloader (although if you have a good rifle and don't mind paying the premium it can shoot matches all day long). But my answer still stays the same based on ammo prices. Jimro
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Again, thanks for helping me decide here.
I have read on several threads/forums that the box mags might be too short for some of the longer, high BC bullets, which was why the Creedmoor came to be in the first place, so I would still like some advice on that, as well as how much performance is lost with a shorter 22" hunting barrel. I'm assuming not so much that I still couldn't shoot longer distances(400-600yds) if I wanted to. Not at game, but targets, if I ever find a place to do that. Thanks |
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Either round will shoot well out to a thousand meters, so stretching your legs isn't going to be a problem when you get the chance.
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