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May 23, 2009, 09:22 PM | #1 |
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Need to remove Bullet & Powder
I am brand new to reloading and I made my first mistake today. I did not fully seat a primer in my press and continued to load the casing. now I has a live casing stuck in my casing holder. Help. how do I remove the bullet & powder without getting hurt. Rember the casing holder is still on the casing.
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May 23, 2009, 09:39 PM | #2 |
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Joe, do you have a kinetic,(hammer type), bullet puller? If so, just stick the shell in question into the puller,(leave the jaws for holding the shell out), and smack it on something hard. It'll pull the bullet along with the powder. Then put the shell and shell holder back in the press to finish seating the primer. If you don't have kinetic puller, get one you'll need it sooner or later anyway. You could also do the same with a collet type puller, to remove the bullet and dump the powder.
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May 23, 2009, 09:49 PM | #3 |
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"I am brand new to reloading and I made my first mistake today"...
It want be the last one, that's for sure. As "snuffy" said, get a kinetic bullet puller, you'll use it again. Whatever you do, don't try to seat the primer furthur on a loaded round...
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May 23, 2009, 10:07 PM | #4 |
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G'day and welcome. If you dont have a bullet puller you could try a make shift one. Get a piece of pipe/tube that the case will fit into but the casing holder will not. Put the bullet into the pipe (hold it in place with some tape) hold the pipe strait up in the air (Bullet end up) then tap the bullet onto a hard surface. Remember the powder will spill and need to be cleaned up/ destroyed. You may need to 'tap' it a couple of times.
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May 23, 2009, 10:25 PM | #5 |
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Agreed, a kenitic puller or equivalent is essential to one's reloading setup. I have an RCBS puller and needed it just as soon as I started seating bullets and going just a little too far.
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May 23, 2009, 11:01 PM | #6 |
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I think you are saying that it is stuck in the shell holder still in the press? Is that what you mean by "caseing holder".
If that is the case I would use some vise grips to remove the bullet then get the pooweder out and remove the primer just like a spent case. A kinetic bullet puller is essential to a reloading kit as a recent beginner I have used mine several times. Playing with seating depths. |
May 24, 2009, 03:10 AM | #7 |
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I agree with Fatboy02. Do not use a kinetic puller with a live primer seated high. The thing could bounce around in there and go off.
I'm assuming you have a turret press since otherwise you would have removed the case after seating the primer. Take one of the dies out. Raise the ram to its full height under the empty hole. A .45acp probably isn't long enough to extend through the hole, but maybe you can get a good grab on the bullet with a pair of needle-nose pliers. Lower the ram and the pliers will wedge into the die holder and you should be able to pull the brass off the bullet. Then you can dump the powder and finish seating the primer. The bullet will probably be trash, but all it was going to do was put a hole in a piece of paper anyway. I'll repeat. You SHOULD NOT try to remove the bullet by kinetic means.
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G'day.
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May 24, 2009, 03:24 AM | #9 |
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I was just trying to search TFL and THR for the event, but someone a year or so ago had a round go off in a puller. He was using a shell holder instead of the collet to hold the round in the puller. Apparently there was enough room in the holder for the edge of the primer to bounce against the edge of the hole in the shell holder.
It was enough to convince me not to use the shell holder in my impact puller. I certainly wouldn't do it with a high primer. I'll keep searching and post the link when I find it.
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G'day. So the problem would be that the case could move in the puller and impact the primer causing detonation. Therefore, if the retaining cap was left off and the case with shell holder were taped on, that should prevent accidental detonation.
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I'll stick with my kinetic hammer
Works like a charm every time.... havent shot anyone with it yet
If someone had a bullet go off with a K hammer, they shouldn't have been smoking while they were doing it (thats the only way I can think of one going off?)
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I may just be me, but if I was in the OP's situation I'd throw the round, shell holder and all, into the dud bucket before I would put it in an impact puller. Shell holders don't cost that much. The circumstances that would set the round off are unlikely, but likely enough to keep me from doing it. Maybe it's just my old age...
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Here it is! It wasn't on TFL or THR so it took longer to find that I thought.
Oh yeah, welcome to The Firing Line JoeMarine1014!
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May 24, 2009, 03:56 AM | #14 |
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G'day. Thank you Sport45 for your input. I will try to keep it in mind whenever I need to use a Kinetic puller.
If the primer in question is low enough to be off center as shown on the drawing would you not be able to remove the case?
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Hey, don't get me wrong. I use my impact puller all the time. And I've even used shell holders instead of the collet. I just wouldn't do it with a high primer.
Enjoy yourself down there!
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Ahhhhh.... the old....
primer not quite in and the case wont come out of the shell holder trick, eh?
well, thats simple.... throw that case in a bucket of water (to kill the primer & powder.... fish out the case later and tap the primer in thru the hole in the shell holder Hey, how come you have a round with powder & projectile, yet the primer is still in the shell holder?? Don't tell me you put the primers in last?? Thats askin' for trouble Ok, just read it again.... sounds like the joys of progressive presses & Noobs.... definately bucket of water time.... after a good soak, poke a small screw driver in thru the hole in the shell holder & try and upend the primer out of the pocket using the shellholder to help 'push the primer over'..... you can actually do this in the bucket of water (under water level) to avoid it going off
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After killin it with water or oil I would just run it back through the primer seater.
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Primers aren't as easy to kill as the folks who preach, "never touch them with your fingers" would have you believe. There are old reloaders and there are bold reloaders. Where are the old, bold reloaders?
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A Hornady CAM-LOC bullet puller is the ticket for things like this. Will not deform or destroy the bullet. Every reloader should have one with the necessary collets for the calibers they have. 'Mo
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