Your favorite .45ACP 200gr LSWC loads?

DaveInPA · May 2, 2008, 10:06 PM

I have 2,000 200gr LSWC bullets on my bench waiting to get loaded up. I have the following powders on hand: W231, Titegroup, WSF, AA#5, and AA#7.

Anyone care to share any favorite loads for any of these powders?

Thanks!
Dave

nobody_special · May 2, 2008, 10:15 PM

I use HP38 (identical to W231) with 200 gr. RNFP. I suggest around 4.8 to 5.0 gr of W231 for a plinking round... this isn't at max pressure but it works nicely.

hivel37 · May 2, 2008, 11:38 PM

Haven't used any of the powders you have listed.

Have used 4 grs of 700X and 6 grs of Universal.

Amazing the price jump those 200's have taken over the past year.

cheezhed · May 2, 2008, 11:52 PM

I use 5.0 grains of 231

TexasSeaRay · May 3, 2008, 01:05 AM

5.0 of 231 always works pretty good for me.

Jeff

DaveInPA · May 3, 2008, 01:25 AM

What's your OAL and crimp on that 5.0gr 231 load?

jhansman · May 3, 2008, 09:40 AM

5.4 gr. of Titegroup always worked nicely for me with that bullet and a WLP primer. It's an excellent powder for reasons that have been discussed here many times.

ShootingNut · May 4, 2008, 09:55 AM

Acc#5 pushes my 200 gr RNFP with a 8.0 to 8.2 charge, seems to work out very well for my gun.

zebulonsmith · May 6, 2008, 09:11 PM

My target load for anything less than 50' is 7.5 gr of #5 does very well out of my Springfield 1911. Pretty low velocity, but I don't see any drop at that range.

drail · May 7, 2008, 01:47 PM

4.3 gr. Winchester Super Target or Bullseye. The long discontinued Winchester/Olin 452AA was the best powder I ever found for 200 gr SWC. One hole groups out of my Springfields and my S&W 625. Super Target is almost as good.

Sevens · May 7, 2008, 06:30 PM

drail, how about a .45 load with 200 grain LSWC and the discontinued Win 473AA powder? I've got a few cans of it and I'd love to roll .45 with it. I've heard it works for .45, but without data, I'm not big on experimenting.

For the original poster, my 200 grain LSWC is 4.4 grains of Bullseye, but that wasn't list as one of your powders.

Striker1 · May 7, 2008, 06:56 PM

5.1 gr W231 and Lasercast 200 gr SWC works good in both my Gov't Models.

Sarge · May 7, 2008, 07:32 PM

The following are good with any quality H&G #68 or close copy. 1.250" OAL, W231 powder, Winchester primers and a good snug taper crimp to prevent bullet setback.

4.0 grains, for 626 fps. Cycles & feeds perfectly in my USGI pattern 1911, really thumps pests/small game load & shoots to the sights at 20 yards or a tad further. Quiet enough that a few rounds w/o earplugs will not deafen you. Will just shoot through a pine 2x4 and sink the nose in another behind it. A friend pointed out that the ballistics of this load is a near match for the old .38, 200 grain Super Police load and I would not hesitate to use it for indoor defense. I use this load to 'cycle-out' worn-out casings and stain them black to make them readily identifiable. A favorite 'fun load' and perfect for introducing small folks to the 1911.

Same as above except 5.0 grains, for 826 fps. Good accurate load with negligible recoil, groups right along with decent JHP's like WW/USA 230; shoots to the same POI out to 50 yards. Would serve fine as a defense load if that what happens to be in the gun. I wouldn't hesitate to heart-shoot a deer with it either. Another favorite.

Yes, W231 is the official "zero to sixty" pistol powder around here. As noted above, HP38 is essentially a direct replacement.

May 2, 2008, 10:06 PM	#1
DaveInPA Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2008 Location: Berks County, PA Posts: 1,106	Your favorite .45ACP 200gr LSWC loads? I have 2,000 200gr LSWC bullets on my bench waiting to get loaded up. I have the following powders on hand: W231, Titegroup, WSF, AA#5, and AA#7. Anyone care to share any favorite loads for any of these powders? Thanks! Dave

May 7, 2008, 06:30 PM	#11
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,756	drail, how about a .45 load with 200 grain LSWC and the discontinued Win 473AA powder? I've got a few cans of it and I'd love to roll .45 with it. I've heard it works for .45, but without data, I'm not big on experimenting. For the original poster, my 200 grain LSWC is 4.4 grains of Bullseye, but that wasn't list as one of your powders. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

May 7, 2008, 07:32 PM	#13
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: MO Posts: 5,457	The following are good with any quality H&G #68 or close copy. 1.250" OAL, W231 powder, Winchester primers and a good snug taper crimp to prevent bullet setback. 4.0 grains, for 626 fps. Cycles & feeds perfectly in my USGI pattern 1911, really thumps pests/small game load & shoots to the sights at 20 yards or a tad further. Quiet enough that a few rounds w/o earplugs will not deafen you. Will just shoot through a pine 2x4 and sink the nose in another behind it. A friend pointed out that the ballistics of this load is a near match for the old .38, 200 grain Super Police load and I would not hesitate to use it for indoor defense. I use this load to 'cycle-out' worn-out casings and stain them black to make them readily identifiable. A favorite 'fun load' and perfect for introducing small folks to the 1911. Same as above except 5.0 grains, for 826 fps. Good accurate load with negligible recoil, groups right along with decent JHP's like WW/USA 230; shoots to the same POI out to 50 yards. Would serve fine as a defense load if that what happens to be in the gun. I wouldn't hesitate to heart-shoot a deer with it either. Another favorite. Yes, W231 is the official "zero to sixty" pistol powder around here. As noted above, HP38 is essentially a direct replacement. __________________ People were smarter before the Internet, or imbeciles were harder to notice.

May 2, 2008, 10:15 PM	#2
nobody_special Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2006 Location: Southwest US Posts: 277	I use HP38 (identical to W231) with 200 gr. RNFP. I suggest around 4.8 to 5.0 gr of W231 for a plinking round... this isn't at max pressure but it works nicely.

May 2, 2008, 11:38 PM	#3
hivel37 Senior Member Join Date: August 24, 2004 Location: Hill Country Posts: 522	Haven't used any of the powders you have listed. Have used 4 grs of 700X and 6 grs of Universal. Amazing the price jump those 200's have taken over the past year.

May 2, 2008, 11:52 PM	#4
cheezhed Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2007 Posts: 302	I use 5.0 grains of 231

May 3, 2008, 01:05 AM	#5
TexasSeaRay Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 810	5.0 of 231 always works pretty good for me. Jeff __________________ If every single gun owner belonged to the NRA as well as their respective state rifle/gun association, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today. So to those of you who are members of neither, thanks for nothing.

May 3, 2008, 01:25 AM	#6
DaveInPA Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2008 Location: Berks County, PA Posts: 1,106	What's your OAL and crimp on that 5.0gr 231 load?

May 3, 2008, 09:40 AM	#7
jhansman Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2007 Posts: 680	5.4 gr. of Titegroup always worked nicely for me with that bullet and a WLP primer. It's an excellent powder for reasons that have been discussed here many times. __________________ Blessed is the man who has nothing to say, and cannot be compelled to say it.

May 4, 2008, 09:55 AM	#8
ShootingNut Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,475	Acc#5 pushes my 200 gr RNFP with a 8.0 to 8.2 charge, seems to work out very well for my gun.

May 6, 2008, 09:11 PM	#9
zebulonsmith Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2007 Posts: 307	My target load for anything less than 50' is 7.5 gr of #5 does very well out of my Springfield 1911. Pretty low velocity, but I don't see any drop at that range.

May 7, 2008, 01:47 PM	#10
drail Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2008 Posts: 3,150	4.3 gr. Winchester Super Target or Bullseye. The long discontinued Winchester/Olin 452AA was the best powder I ever found for 200 gr SWC. One hole groups out of my Springfields and my S&W 625. Super Target is almost as good.

May 7, 2008, 06:56 PM	#12
Striker1 Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2004 Location: TX Posts: 710	5.1 gr W231 and Lasercast 200 gr SWC works good in both my Gov't Models.