38 Super to 9X25?

Dilbert · May 24, 2009, 06:20 AM

Would it be safe to convert a 38 Super 1911 barrel to 9X25?

Scorch · May 24, 2009, 02:15 PM

I am not sure a 1911 has a large enough port to chamber and eject a 9X25 cartridge, and I am not sure a 9X25 will fit into a 1911 magazine. Then you also have the issue of modifying the slide and the ejector for the smaller case head. I remember Colt had some issues when they made the Delta Elite in 10mm. Since the 9X25 is based on the 10mm case, it may be wiser to start with a pistol designed for the 10 mm, maybe even a Colt Delta Elite if you prefer the 1911 platform.

Slopemeno · May 25, 2009, 01:29 AM

Yeah, you should be able to rechamber that.

As far as OAL I'm pretty sure it'll work, as I seem to recall Robby Leatham shooting a 1911 in that 9x25 for a season or two.

Dilbert · May 25, 2009, 10:04 AM

I'm not trying to convert a 38 Super 1911 to a 9X25, I'm looking to get a barrel in 9X25 for my 10mm Kimber but I can't find anyone who makes one so I was hoping I could just ream out a 38 Super or 9mm barrel. I believe 9X25 has about the same OAL as a 10mm so it should fit the gun.

Slopemeno · May 25, 2009, 11:17 AM

I'd be interested to hear your experiences once you get it done- it's supposed to be really effective with a comp.

Jim Watson · May 25, 2009, 11:40 AM

Nowlin says they will do special orders in 9x25. Probably no more expensive than having a .38 barrel rechambered unless you find a shop already with the reamer.

Dilbert · May 26, 2009, 12:08 AM

I had considered talking to Nowlin, and probably should, but I already have a 38 Super barrel that I could use. Thanks for the input and advice. I'll be sure to post my results when I figure out what I'm doing and can get around to doing it.

goodspeed(TPF) · May 26, 2009, 01:17 AM

Yes.

Dilbert · January 18, 2010, 01:13 PM

Just an update for anyone who is interested, I got a 9X25 barrel from Nowlin, put an EGW comp on it. It shoots phenomenally. Almost no recoil. It is really loud and has quite the muzzle flash though. I'll post pictures when it gets prettied up a little bit.

James K · January 18, 2010, 10:53 PM

Just curious, but how did you guys who did that conversion get around the short magazine and mag well? I have seen an M1911A1 converted to 7.62x25 by the Viet Cong, and it took a lot of filing work and a home-made magazine, plus work on the slide and extractor and the ejector (which would not be needed for conversion of a .38 Super).

Jim

Dilbert · January 18, 2010, 11:18 PM

It wasn't an issue. The OAL of the 9X25 is the same as the 10mm. All we did was replace the barrel.

James K · January 18, 2010, 11:36 PM

Sorry, I really misread things and got myself even more confused than normal.

Jim

May 24, 2009, 06:20 AM	#1
Dilbert Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2006 Location: DMAFB, AZ Posts: 342	38 Super to 9X25? Would it be safe to convert a 38 Super 1911 barrel to 9X25? __________________ Gun Control-gun con·trol n. definition 1. The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker received that fatal bullet wound. 2. The ability to hit what you are aiming at.

May 24, 2009, 02:15 PM	#2
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	I am not sure a 1911 has a large enough port to chamber and eject a 9X25 cartridge, and I am not sure a 9X25 will fit into a 1911 magazine. Then you also have the issue of modifying the slide and the ejector for the smaller case head. I remember Colt had some issues when they made the Delta Elite in 10mm. Since the 9X25 is based on the 10mm case, it may be wiser to start with a pistol designed for the 10 mm, maybe even a Colt Delta Elite if you prefer the 1911 platform. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

May 25, 2009, 10:04 AM	#4
Dilbert Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2006 Location: DMAFB, AZ Posts: 342	I'm not trying to convert a 38 Super 1911 to a 9X25, I'm looking to get a barrel in 9X25 for my 10mm Kimber but I can't find anyone who makes one so I was hoping I could just ream out a 38 Super or 9mm barrel. I believe 9X25 has about the same OAL as a 10mm so it should fit the gun. __________________ Gun Control-gun con·trol n. definition 1. The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker received that fatal bullet wound. 2. The ability to hit what you are aiming at.

May 26, 2009, 12:08 AM	#7
Dilbert Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2006 Location: DMAFB, AZ Posts: 342	I had considered talking to Nowlin, and probably should, but I already have a 38 Super barrel that I could use. Thanks for the input and advice. I'll be sure to post my results when I figure out what I'm doing and can get around to doing it. __________________ Gun Control-gun con·trol n. definition 1. The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker received that fatal bullet wound. 2. The ability to hit what you are aiming at.

May 26, 2009, 01:17 AM	#8
goodspeed(TPF) Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2009 Location: WI Posts: 1,162	Yes. __________________ It's a trick. Get an axe. http://www.thepiratefleet.com/index.shtml

May 25, 2009, 01:29 AM	#3
Slopemeno Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2007 Posts: 2,663	Yeah, you should be able to rechamber that. As far as OAL I'm pretty sure it'll work, as I seem to recall Robby Leatham shooting a 1911 in that 9x25 for a season or two.

May 25, 2009, 11:17 AM	#5
Slopemeno Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2007 Posts: 2,663	I'd be interested to hear your experiences once you get it done- it's supposed to be really effective with a comp.

May 25, 2009, 11:40 AM	#6
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,535	Nowlin says they will do special orders in 9x25. Probably no more expensive than having a .38 barrel rechambered unless you find a shop already with the reamer.

January 18, 2010, 01:13 PM	#9
Dilbert Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2006 Location: DMAFB, AZ Posts: 342	Just an update for anyone who is interested, I got a 9X25 barrel from Nowlin, put an EGW comp on it. It shoots phenomenally. Almost no recoil. It is really loud and has quite the muzzle flash though. I'll post pictures when it gets prettied up a little bit. __________________ Gun Control-gun con·trol n. definition 1. The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker received that fatal bullet wound. 2. The ability to hit what you are aiming at.

January 18, 2010, 10:53 PM	#10
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Just curious, but how did you guys who did that conversion get around the short magazine and mag well? I have seen an M1911A1 converted to 7.62x25 by the Viet Cong, and it took a lot of filing work and a home-made magazine, plus work on the slide and extractor and the ejector (which would not be needed for conversion of a .38 Super). Jim

January 18, 2010, 11:18 PM	#11
Dilbert Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2006 Location: DMAFB, AZ Posts: 342	It wasn't an issue. The OAL of the 9X25 is the same as the 10mm. All we did was replace the barrel. __________________ Gun Control-gun con·trol n. definition 1. The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker received that fatal bullet wound. 2. The ability to hit what you are aiming at.

January 18, 2010, 11:36 PM	#12
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Sorry, I really misread things and got myself even more confused than normal. Jim

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