April 20, 2011, 02:07 AM | #1 |
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what is the best consensus on the open top colt percussion revolver?
from going over old posts, there is no consensus, not even on who makes the best. ie one says "uberti" the best because they are best made. next post says uberti junk because they have to much slop in wedge/barrel/arbor junction then pietta becomes the best because they "make the colts real nice and tight and hard to get apart the few times", then the next post will say thats a bad atribute. and then i hear there is a 'accurizing" trick with aldo uberti open tops to make them "worth owning, and worth shooting" so whats a man to do? |
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Get a Pietta from Cabela's. It's hands down the best bang for the buck.
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And stick with the 1860 while it is one sale.
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Buying a replica is like buying a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get. Pietta is possibly the best bang for the buck, Uberti's are nice but more $$$. If you want the 'best" then I would buy a Colt 2nd gen. The 1960 Centaure is made from excellent steel but well probably need smithing to get up to snuff.
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Cabelas Pietta is the way to go.
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Colt 2G's are really Uberti's.
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It's the "Ford/Chevy" debate. I have 8 Uberti C&B revolvers and 1 Pietta revolver and love them all. I have owned at least 7 other Pietta guns and they were crap. I have never had any problems with my Uberti guns and I do more than just target shoot with them. About 10-15 years ago Piettas were nothing but junk. They have since gotten loads better. Some people have Piettas from the 70s-80s and have had no problems. Some people have Ubertis from two years ago that are nothing but trouble. Sometimes both companies will let a bad gun through QC. The Ubert guns are closer in dimension, shape and looks to original Colt revolvers. Piettas are cheaper, but are also reliable guns. Both are accurate and fun to shoot. It's all in what you want.
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I'll take Ford.....no wait, Chevy.
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You aren't finding the exact answer because in the end it's a crap shoot. A lot rides on what you see when you open up that box on that new revolver. Sometimes it would seem that your satisfaction will depend upon whether or not your firearm was made before or after a soccer tournament or subsequent hangover. Out of the box I like the appearance of the Uberti over the Pietta. That is primarily a fit/finish aesthetics issue. However, as you point out, both Uberti and Pietta have their pro's and con's. My solution for you....buy a revolver with a top strap....specifically a Ruger Old Army. |
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Here is an old thread with more than you probably will want to read on the topic. Pay particular attention to the posts by Fingers McGee as he knows his BP Colts.
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However small, it's the percentage of the 2nd Gen's that were actually made in Italy that leads some to disagree.
That percentage of each gun that was made in Italy simply reflects the percentage of folks that won't ever admit that they're "real 100% American made" Colts. Repeating that they're authentic lettered Colts won't change everyone's opinion. All anyone can do is recognize where a percentage of the parts actually came from and try to understand the other perspective regarding their definition of purity. There's no right or wrong, it's just another person's perspective. What if some Italians wanted credit for building that percentage of those 2nd Generation guns? No one can claim that they didn't build a percentage of each one of them. So the Italians get some credit because some credit is due them. So what? I'm not trying to judge but rather just trying to explain why I think that some folks feel the way that they do. They know what they know and that makes them say what they say. Last edited by arcticap; April 20, 2011 at 12:30 PM. |
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Brand new here, first post.
I've been into BP for a short time and currently own 4 BP Revolvers, a stainless Ruger and 3 Ubertis. After what I feel was a lengthy research period and many trips to various dealers, including Cabela's, I concluded for myself that Uberti was a better made piece of equipment and worth the extra money. Fit, finish, grip/wood quality and action all were better with each comparison I made. For me, it was the little things that count; like dovetailed sights and load lever locking pins as opposed to silver soldered. They just look like higher quality pieces. If was going to buy a beater for loading heavy and leaving dirty, didn't care if I wore off some blueing while practicing holster technique, dropped it, or otherwise needed a utiliy gun, I'd probably buy a Pietta. But I'm kinda obsessive about my guns and their care. So it's Uberti for me. As others have said, the argument is all based on personal taste. So it's moot from the start. I've had the same conversations around cars, bikes, beer (I brew) and of course, women. So it's no surprise that guns, another topic of passion among men, is excellent fodder for lively discussion. Shoot, drive, ride, drink and make love to whatever satisfies your soul. |
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Welcome aboard, Scooch and way to make a splash!
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I'm getting awfully tired of this same thread time after time.
Look in the archives. Go to The Darksiders Den in CAS city, DARK ARTS childboard. Any of the forums that have a "history section". all of these questions have been asked and answered dozens of times. And it's Mary Ann! |
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looks vs strength
Ya want a looker get a 1860 want a stronger frame 1858 remmie.I have both but I like the colt the best just be careful with hot loads 25 gr 777 fffg with a .454 ball wont dissapoint......
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The car with the highest number imported into the US is.....................
The Ford Festiva - made in Mexico. The car with the most exports from the US.............................. The Toyota Camry If you want made in America, you better watch out what you are buying.
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well heres a simpler way to phrase the question,
'is either brand going to offer more need for fine tuning out of the box, or are they both able to come out of the shipping box, and after a cleaning, perform as well as non civil war produced colts?" ive read that pre war colts, and post war colts were well loved and recieved by the men who used them. it was the less then stellar war time conditions that made them say "remington please" |
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In my experience, I have owned at one time or another fifteen different Uberti C&B revolvers and never had any of them tuned. I use mine as "farm guns". I have carried them in every type of weather, have used them against wild dogs, and put down a cow or two. I have never had a problem with any of them. I cannot speak much about Pietta guns. I own one and I like it very much (confederate Dance). It is well made and reliable. Shoots great too. I personally prefer Uberti as they are closer in dimention/size/shape to original Colt/Remington revolvers, and generally look better to me, but you'll probably be happy with either brand. Both companies have been known to turn out a "lemon" on occasion though.
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This is a subject that can't die. It reminds me of the 30.06 vs the 270 rifles for all around carry rifle. Remington vs Winchester. I have 6 Pietta's 2 1858 armys, 8" & 5.5"barrels, 2 1860 Army models, 8" & 5'5" barrels, one 1851 Colt navy .36 cal, one 1851 brass frame colt in .44 cal. I have had most of these for a while. the 5.5" barrels are still nib. The 58 Army is my oldest at 22 years old or so. I lost count of the rds fired after 1000, that revolver is just starting to get broke in good. I have to say, for the money, I would stick with the pietta, and still come out with as good of a revolver as you could ask for. The Pietta's, are not all broke in for you like most Uberti's, that could give you more time to brake them in yourself. That just means shoot the pistol a few times, they'll start to tune up them self. I have not had any problems with any of my Pietta's so far, they shoot just find. I wanted a walker, so I went with the Uberti. The hammer spring broke after the first 40 shots, Most of the folks that post here know about it. I was having a fit over it. The people here on the forum helped me through most of it. Now it is one heck of a handgun. If I had to let all of them go but one, what would I do. I would have to say the Uberti walker would be the one to keep. After going through having to fix it, and the way it shoots, it's just a revolver you don't want to let go of. The ruger is a fine handgun, but it has that new gun fill to it. I guess what I mean is, it don't have that old time fill to it. For a new person to the sport. I think you would be good to go with the Pietta, after shooting it for a while, if you still want to try another, and you will, go with the Uberti. Start off with less money out of pocket for the revolver, buy all the stuff needed to get you shooting. The 1858, or the 1860 models are as good a place to start as any. once you start shooting either it will be hard to put them down. I love them all. My wife tells me all the time, " You take better care of them dang guns than you do me"
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