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Old January 25, 2021, 08:27 PM   #26
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Last Fall (before Covid) and before the bears finished gorging for winter, I asked at the ranger station in town about what I should carry. He said definitely bear spray (They must say that. They love their bears and there are already enough people.) He told me to leave my 20 ga. and 9mm at home. Those would just irritate a bear and bring down trouble.

Two friends of mine live on separate ranches not far from town and they turn on the barn spotlight and carry 12 ga. shotguns to go out in the yard at night- just in case. No one did that two years ago, but there have been too many sightings recently.

Some of the shotgun recommendations are good, but too pricey for my depleted budget right now. I can swing the $550 plus tax for the Mossberg. Also, they are common and have a ton of aftermarket stuff to fit.

Thank you for your suggestions.

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Old January 27, 2021, 01:53 PM   #27
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Bear spray is the only way to go. Otherwise a person just wants to carry a gun.
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Old January 27, 2021, 02:41 PM   #28
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May I suggest an Ithaca Model 51 semi?

They have a quiet background but suffered from too many shells and no maintenance, due to the need to REPLACE buffers.

Wood stock that can be shorten.

Go to and menu to the Ithace forum, search for Model 51.

A old Browning A5 in 12 or 16ga., be an alternate.

Recommend using BRENNEKE slugs in either.

Hope this helps.
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Old January 27, 2021, 04:33 PM   #29
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Old February 2, 2021, 01:20 PM   #30
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Same load

Yes, a 20 can throw the same weight of shot that a 12 can. What the 20 can't do is throw a superior pattern.
The 12 will have the superior pattern, the weight is the same, the length of the shot column is not.
Since the pattern is a three dimensional event, the length of the column of shot is important to the pattern.
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Old February 3, 2021, 06:10 PM   #31
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We aren't talking about shot columns here. We are shooting bears with hard cast slugs in this thread.
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