Need help to identify old bp pistol

xrperry · January 17, 2010, 03:21 PM

Hi, i have searched everything to find info on this pistol. The only marks on it is fisheyes on hammer. The hammer resembles a fish, it has a 14-7/8 barrel, 36 cal. Any help would be appreciated.thanks.

GunsAmerica Actual · January 17, 2010, 03:34 PM

It looks like a "guild gun" to me. In the late 1700s and through the late 1800s they had local gun guilds that would offer parts that you could make guns from. My rule is that unless it has markings on it, assume it's a guild gun, and the hammer on this one for sure likes like it is. This is percussion, so it was probably well after 1800, and probably built in upstate NY somewhere. It's nifty but probably not worth a ton. If you see stamps, it could be a foreign guild gun as well. There are a ton of those in the US from Belgium and other countries.

xrperry · January 17, 2010, 04:02 PM

thanks, this helps

James K · January 19, 2010, 12:10 AM

FWIW, it rather vaguely resembles some of the guns by Allen & Thurber, but their guns were marked on the barrel.

Jim

xrperry · January 19, 2010, 09:59 AM

thanks jim,appreciate the help. this is getting interesting

January 17, 2010, 03:34 PM	#2
GunsAmerica Actual Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2009 Posts: 109	It looks like a "guild gun" to me. In the late 1700s and through the late 1800s they had local gun guilds that would offer parts that you could make guns from. My rule is that unless it has markings on it, assume it's a guild gun, and the hammer on this one for sure likes like it is. This is percussion, so it was probably well after 1800, and probably built in upstate NY somewhere. It's nifty but probably not worth a ton. If you see stamps, it could be a foreign guild gun as well. There are a ton of those in the US from Belgium and other countries. __________________ -ph@ga GunsAmerica Where America Buys and Sells Guns http://www.gunsamerica.com

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January 19, 2010, 12:10 AM	#4
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	FWIW, it rather vaguely resembles some of the guns by Allen & Thurber, but their guns were marked on the barrel. Jim

January 19, 2010, 09:59 AM	#5
xrperry Junior Member Join Date: January 17, 2010 Posts: 4	thanks jim,appreciate the help. this is getting interesting