need help identifying old shotgun

mp25ds4 · July 26, 2009, 12:08 PM

hey everyone this shotgun belongs to a friend of mine and i think he said his grandpa brought it home from ww2. they took it to a gun shop (probably the biggest in NC) and they had no clue what it was and said it was probably about 100 years old and probably german, he also said it is made out of really good metal because it doesnt have a spot of rust. its definatly not 12 guage, it kinda looks like 20 ga. It seems to have some kind of adjustable stock for L.O.P left and right handed shooters, it looks like it needs a special tool to adjust. I found a name on the bottom it says O'schliiter. I found what looks like a SN that you can kinda see in the break barrel pic, its 36663.
does anyone have any idea what kind of shotgun this is? how much its worth?comments?

WIN71 · July 26, 2009, 03:20 PM

Take the barrels off. There should be proof marks on the frame. They can be used to identify the country of manufacture and sometimes the general time period.
There is a gun id section over here, http://shotgunworld.com/
These guys are pretty good.

mp25ds4 · July 26, 2009, 03:24 PM

im not gona try to take it apart i dont want to risk braking it

oneounceload · July 26, 2009, 03:35 PM

Take the forearm off, open the top lever, barrels come off. There should be proof marks, chamber size data, etc......

mp25ds4 · July 26, 2009, 03:42 PM

next time i visit i will ask his permission

perazzimx14 · July 26, 2009, 05:00 PM

Steel not rusting is not a sign of quality! It is a sign of proper storage!

Why are you treating this gun like it is the Shroud of Turin? Trust me this gun is not a "Antique Roadshow" find worth millions or thousands, at best several hundred! You are going to do no harm removing the forearm and barrels to have a look.

mp25ds4 · July 26, 2009, 05:51 PM

im not treating it like its the "shroud of turin", it has alot of sentimental value so i dont want to mess with it without his permission

mp25ds4 · July 26, 2009, 06:31 PM

added a new pic that i forgot to put on the first post

here it is again....

oneounceload · July 26, 2009, 07:19 PM

Side clips are a nice feature and not usually found on lower end guns that I have seen. When you get a chance to take photos of the flats, use a tripod and the macro setting so they are clear and well-focused - that will help in identifying

Dave McC · July 26, 2009, 08:49 PM

Euro guns are as complicated as Sicilian politics.

This is a boxlock with a Greener style crossbolt action. Besides the adjustable wrist to alter cast, it looks like the butt is also moveable.

Side clips reduce side to side action flexing and usually turn up on higher end guns.

Add a movable comb and you'd have a "Try Gun" that makers would use to determine best fit for a bespoke gun.

Many Continental shotguns are 16 gauge. Lots of these got dufflebagged to the US with returning GIs, ca 1945.

It's worth a few hundred dollars and probably is a nice hunting gun.

However, many of these are chambered for shells shorter than we use now. Short shells are available, but not at Walmart.

As with all old shotguns, a lookover by a good smith BEFORE firing is mandatory.

HTH....

hogdogs · July 26, 2009, 11:01 PM

Dirty socks whack the value down 2K so it is best you write me a check for $1,100 and send it post covered... to my FFL!
Brent

July 26, 2009, 12:08 PM	#1
mp25ds4 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Posts: 392	need help identifying old shotgun hey everyone this shotgun belongs to a friend of mine and i think he said his grandpa brought it home from ww2. they took it to a gun shop (probably the biggest in NC) and they had no clue what it was and said it was probably about 100 years old and probably german, he also said it is made out of really good metal because it doesnt have a spot of rust. its definatly not 12 guage, it kinda looks like 20 ga. It seems to have some kind of adjustable stock for L.O.P left and right handed shooters, it looks like it needs a special tool to adjust. I found a name on the bottom it says O'schliiter. I found what looks like a SN that you can kinda see in the break barrel pic, its 36663. does anyone have any idea what kind of shotgun this is? how much its worth?comments? __________________ Liberal Newscaster Katie Couric, while interviewing a Marine sniper, asked: 'What do you feel.....when you shoot a Terrorist?' The Marine shrugged and replied, "A Slight Recoil." Last edited by mp25ds4; July 26, 2009 at 06:29 PM.

July 26, 2009, 03:20 PM	#2
WIN71 Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 2005 Posts: 729	Take the barrels off. There should be proof marks on the frame. They can be used to identify the country of manufacture and sometimes the general time period. There is a gun id section over here, http://shotgunworld.com/ These guys are pretty good. __________________ Air goes in and out. Blood goes 'round and 'round. Any variation on this is a very bad thing. 개인 정보를 보호하십시요

July 26, 2009, 03:24 PM	#3
mp25ds4 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Posts: 392	im not gona try to take it apart i dont want to risk braking it __________________ Liberal Newscaster Katie Couric, while interviewing a Marine sniper, asked: 'What do you feel.....when you shoot a Terrorist?' The Marine shrugged and replied, "A Slight Recoil."

July 26, 2009, 03:42 PM	#5
mp25ds4 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Posts: 392	next time i visit i will ask his permission __________________ Liberal Newscaster Katie Couric, while interviewing a Marine sniper, asked: 'What do you feel.....when you shoot a Terrorist?' The Marine shrugged and replied, "A Slight Recoil."

July 26, 2009, 05:51 PM	#7
mp25ds4 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Posts: 392	im not treating it like its the "shroud of turin", it has alot of sentimental value so i dont want to mess with it without his permission __________________ Liberal Newscaster Katie Couric, while interviewing a Marine sniper, asked: 'What do you feel.....when you shoot a Terrorist?' The Marine shrugged and replied, "A Slight Recoil."

July 26, 2009, 03:35 PM	#4
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Take the forearm off, open the top lever, barrels come off. There should be proof marks, chamber size data, etc......

July 26, 2009, 05:00 PM	#6
perazzimx14 Senior Member Join Date: February 10, 2007 Posts: 130	Steel not rusting is not a sign of quality! It is a sign of proper storage! Why are you treating this gun like it is the Shroud of Turin? Trust me this gun is not a "Antique Roadshow" find worth millions or thousands, at best several hundred! You are going to do no harm removing the forearm and barrels to have a look.

July 26, 2009, 06:31 PM	#8
mp25ds4 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Posts: 392	added a new pic that i forgot to put on the first post here it is again.... __________________ Liberal Newscaster Katie Couric, while interviewing a Marine sniper, asked: 'What do you feel.....when you shoot a Terrorist?' The Marine shrugged and replied, "A Slight Recoil."

July 26, 2009, 07:19 PM	#9
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Side clips are a nice feature and not usually found on lower end guns that I have seen. When you get a chance to take photos of the flats, use a tripod and the macro setting so they are clear and well-focused - that will help in identifying

July 26, 2009, 08:49 PM	#10
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	Euro guns are as complicated as Sicilian politics. This is a boxlock with a Greener style crossbolt action. Besides the adjustable wrist to alter cast, it looks like the butt is also moveable. Side clips reduce side to side action flexing and usually turn up on higher end guns. Add a movable comb and you'd have a "Try Gun" that makers would use to determine best fit for a bespoke gun. Many Continental shotguns are 16 gauge. Lots of these got dufflebagged to the US with returning GIs, ca 1945. It's worth a few hundred dollars and probably is a nice hunting gun. However, many of these are chambered for shells shorter than we use now. Short shells are available, but not at Walmart. As with all old shotguns, a lookover by a good smith BEFORE firing is mandatory. HTH....

July 26, 2009, 11:01 PM	#11
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Dirty socks whack the value down 2K so it is best you write me a check for $1,100 and send it post covered... to my FFL! Brent