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Old May 24, 2018, 03:57 PM   #1
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Help Identifying a Rifle Action.

I was hoping somebody could help me identify who manufactured this action. It's a gun of my Dad's that he was wanting to put a new stock and picatinny rail on but I can't source either without knowing the more about the action.

I see max allowed picture size on this forum is quite small so I will just provide a link to the photos of the actions showing the only markings.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...7DA6HvxJ6gKkv9

Any help would be appreciated.
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Old May 24, 2018, 04:33 PM   #2
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more pictures, looks like a rem 700 long action.
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Old May 24, 2018, 05:22 PM   #3
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Same thing I though. Got a photo of the bolt?
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Old May 24, 2018, 11:08 PM   #4
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What is written on the side? The photo is blurry, made in....something?
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Old May 24, 2018, 11:38 PM   #5
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"Made in England" That's what's stamped on the action

I will get a picture of the bolt but I am pretty sure it's not a Remington action. Wouldn't a Remington action have a serial number?
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Old May 24, 2018, 11:49 PM   #6
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Pictures of the bolt.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...MDkX8LhXqlbKRv
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Old May 25, 2018, 12:50 AM   #7
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Best guess, Custom Remington 700 pattern action, but not made by Remington. That bolt head and extractor is about as Remington 700 as you can get, but Remington didn't make them in England.
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Old May 25, 2018, 05:46 AM   #8
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the bolt has a different extractor(not rem style) the rifle has some Remington look alike things, but not Remington for sure. a Remington stock should be made to fit it with out much trouble.
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Old May 25, 2018, 08:05 AM   #9
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Nope, absolutely not a 700. For one thing it has a recoil lug on the action and the 700 does not. Probably inspired by the M700 in some ways.
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Old May 25, 2018, 08:23 AM   #10
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Flat bottom, not going to drop in a Remington stock.
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Old May 25, 2018, 08:40 AM   #11
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I would help also to show the rifle assembled. If that is not possible how about the entire bolt assembly including bolt sleeve. You may look up a BSA Monarch rifle as imported by Herter's and others in the day. When you show pieces it is helpful. On the downside it's like the blind men describing an elephant.
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Old May 25, 2018, 09:51 AM   #12
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Take a look at the BSA Monarch U9. May have been sold as Parker Hale U9, may have
been imported by Herter's--but I find some contradictory info.

Appears that there was a J9 which was a Mauser 98 action, and the U9. U9 was a push feed. One source said "Think English Remington".


Did find on reference that this outfit has semi-inletted stocks for it.
http://www.rifle-stocks.com/economy_line_styles.htm
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Old May 25, 2018, 11:32 AM   #13
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The BSA Monarch bolt is very decidedly similar. An M700 clone it's not though.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1687410
Gotta say you take a really good picture. Nicely done.
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Old May 25, 2018, 01:20 PM   #14
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Just a shot in the dark, could that be a Whitman receiver? I don't even know for sure if they were made in England but that name just came to mind when I saw that England mark.
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Old May 25, 2018, 01:21 PM   #15
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Herter's Mauser rifle

The other Herter's rifle may have been the version of what became the Mark X from the former Yugoslavia. Both BSA and Mauser based rifles were marketed by Herter's at the same time in the late 1960's. Most everybody who had an interest in firearms ordered the Herter's catalog after being discharged from the service.
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Old May 25, 2018, 03:02 PM   #16
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Reminton74,
Do you mean Whitworth? If so it is decidedly not one of the whitworth Mark X.
It's what i built my rifle on.

I think T.O'Heir is in the right ballpark.
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Old May 25, 2018, 03:54 PM   #17
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std7mag,
Whitworth is probably what I was thinking of. I considered it might be a Mark X but I thought those were built on Yugoslav model 98 actions. I had an Interarms Mark X in 30-06 but that was long ago and far away.
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Old May 25, 2018, 07:32 PM   #18
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Yeah, Interarms imported the Whitworth rifles. Hence Interarms Whitworth Mark X

Some of the heavier calibers were known to crack the stock at the wrist.
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Old May 25, 2018, 10:10 PM   #19
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Thanks for the help guys looks like it's a Monarch of some variation.
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