Cobray .45/.410 Derringers

TruthTellers · December 18, 2016, 01:56 PM

Like the Emporer in Star Wars, I can already feel the hate, but I have to ask: What do those here think about the Cobray break open derringers in .45 Colt/.410? There are a few models that were made, a single shot, sxs and o/u double barrels, and a combination .22 LR and .45/.410. The models I'm most interested in hearing about are the double barrels.

Model12Win · December 18, 2016, 02:22 PM

There was one model, perhaps still made, that looked like a little double barrel shotgun and had long barrels. That might make a good snake gun. I think you will find the quality on them to be abysmal but sometimes they do work.

smee78 · December 18, 2016, 02:36 PM

I have been interested in the long barrel model but have not been able to put my hands on one yet to check it out. I think I know what to expect but would like to have one in the garage for snakes and critters.

TruthTellers · December 18, 2016, 03:20 PM

I forgot to mention Cobray made a pepperbox design that held 5 .410's or .45 Colt. Not really interested in hearing about those as I can imagine the quality is awful.

Not saying that they're great, but a break action design is very simple and easy to make well, at least, easier in comparison to a pepperbox.

roashooter · December 18, 2016, 07:32 PM

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What do those here think about the Cobray break open derringers in .45 Colt/.410? There are a few models that were made, a single shot, sxs and o/u double barrels, and a combination .22 LR and .45/.410. The models I'm most interested in hearing about are the double barrels.

I think a Cobray break open is the perfect firearm for you....

peggysue · December 18, 2016, 07:32 PM

My cool collection of Daniel / Leinad derringers...

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TruthTellers · December 18, 2016, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by roashooter

I think a Cobray break open is the perfect firearm for you....

Idk, more perfect than a Rohm .44 Magnum?

roashooter · December 18, 2016, 09:03 PM

Idk, more perfect than a Rohm .44 Magnum?

which one is cheaper?

TruthTellers · December 18, 2016, 09:09 PM

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which one is cheaper?

I have no idea. Probably Cobray.

Model12Win · December 18, 2016, 10:20 PM

These remind me of a small 19th century cannon or mortar mounted on to a derringer frame.

jstert · December 22, 2016, 09:12 AM

save your pennies for a bond arms derringer. used are good bargains but only get new models with upgraded action, look for indented trigger and wider hammer spur.

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tranders · December 22, 2016, 01:21 PM

I have the single shot .410/45 Colt. If there were gun buy backs in my area, this is one I would turn in. Lock up is dangerously loose, hammer falls if you look at the wrong way. In my opinion this is one for the blast furnace.

Junk!

peggysue · December 22, 2016, 03:14 PM

double post

peggysue · December 22, 2016, 03:32 PM

The ones i have in the picture are pretty hard to find nowadays except for the single shots that are well under $200. (Not expensive like a Bond Arms Derringer. I paid as much for my Bond Arms plus extra barrel as I did for all the Leniad.) They are all very robust and strong.
For a tackle box gun, the single shot is the way to go.
Some notes...mine has always gone bang. It is not the kind of gun that one takes to the range and dumps a box of shells with. The grip is far from optimal, especially given the cartridge that the gun is chambered for. Both the .45 and the .410 spin quite a bit upon firing. It is definitely a short range affair.....best within three yards (but that is what derringers are all about in any case). Releasing the safety efficiently requires a bit of practice as the hammer has the be eased a bit for the bar to move....two hands needed on the gun.

Just my opinion.

Model12Win · December 22, 2016, 06:24 PM

Interesting that these are still made. Rather like a small cannon... in "Ducktown" (

) Tennessee of all places!!

jimku · January 22, 2017, 06:27 AM

I have a Bond CA Papa Bear in 45 Colt and LOVE it.
But I wouldn't touch one of these pieces of junk with a 10-foot pole.

Bill DeShivs · January 22, 2017, 03:18 PM

All of these guns are based on a flare gun frame.
It's pretty amazing the varieties they came up with.
These guns are also sold in kit form-requiring welding the breech to the frame and assembling. I'm going to find one of the kits and build it with the "DeShivs pimping."

December 18, 2016, 01:56 PM	#1
TruthTellers Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2016 Posts: 3,887	Cobray .45/.410 Derringers Like the Emporer in Star Wars, I can already feel the hate, but I have to ask: What do those here think about the Cobray break open derringers in .45 Colt/.410? There are a few models that were made, a single shot, sxs and o/u double barrels, and a combination .22 LR and .45/.410. The models I'm most interested in hearing about are the double barrels.

December 18, 2016, 02:36 PM	#3
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,918	I have been interested in the long barrel model but have not been able to put my hands on one yet to check it out. I think I know what to expect but would like to have one in the garage for snakes and critters. __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

December 22, 2016, 03:14 PM	#13
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	double post Last edited by peggysue; December 22, 2016 at 03:32 PM. Reason: Opps

December 22, 2016, 06:24 PM	#15
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Interesting that these are still made. Rather like a small cannon... in "Ducktown" () Tennessee of all places!!

January 22, 2017, 03:18 PM	#17
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,984	All of these guns are based on a flare gun frame. It's pretty amazing the varieties they came up with. These guns are also sold in kit form-requiring welding the breech to the frame and assembling. I'm going to find one of the kits and build it with the "DeShivs pimping." __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com Last edited by Bill DeShivs; January 23, 2017 at 01:57 AM.

December 18, 2016, 02:22 PM	#2
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	There was one model, perhaps still made, that looked like a little double barrel shotgun and had long barrels. That might make a good snake gun. I think you will find the quality on them to be abysmal but sometimes they do work.

December 18, 2016, 03:20 PM	#4
TruthTellers Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2016 Posts: 3,887	I forgot to mention Cobray made a pepperbox design that held 5 .410's or .45 Colt. Not really interested in hearing about those as I can imagine the quality is awful. Not saying that they're great, but a break action design is very simple and easy to make well, at least, easier in comparison to a pepperbox.

December 18, 2016, 07:32 PM	#6
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	My cool collection of Daniel / Leinad derringers... .

December 18, 2016, 09:03 PM	#8
roashooter Junior member Join Date: December 24, 2010 Posts: 508	Idk, more perfect than a Rohm .44 Magnum? which one is cheaper?

December 18, 2016, 10:20 PM	#10
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	These remind me of a small 19th century cannon or mortar mounted on to a derringer frame.

December 22, 2016, 09:12 AM	#11
jstert Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2013 Posts: 205	save your pennies for a bond arms derringer. used are good bargains but only get new models with upgraded action, look for indented trigger and wider hammer spur. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

December 22, 2016, 01:21 PM	#12
tranders Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 233	I have the single shot .410/45 Colt. If there were gun buy backs in my area, this is one I would turn in. Lock up is dangerously loose, hammer falls if you look at the wrong way. In my opinion this is one for the blast furnace. Junk!

December 22, 2016, 03:32 PM	#14
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	The ones i have in the picture are pretty hard to find nowadays except for the single shots that are well under $200. (Not expensive like a Bond Arms Derringer. I paid as much for my Bond Arms plus extra barrel as I did for all the Leniad.) They are all very robust and strong. For a tackle box gun, the single shot is the way to go. Some notes...mine has always gone bang. It is not the kind of gun that one takes to the range and dumps a box of shells with. The grip is far from optimal, especially given the cartridge that the gun is chambered for. Both the .45 and the .410 spin quite a bit upon firing. It is definitely a short range affair.....best within three yards (but that is what derringers are all about in any case). Releasing the safety efficiently requires a bit of practice as the hammer has the be eased a bit for the bar to move....two hands needed on the gun. Just my opinion.

January 22, 2017, 06:27 AM	#16
jimku Junior member Join Date: January 2, 2017 Posts: 291	I have a Bond CA Papa Bear in 45 Colt and LOVE it. But I wouldn't touch one of these pieces of junk with a 10-foot pole.