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January 28, 2013, 09:44 AM | #51 |
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40 cal is awesome. Better than 9mm. I wish I still had mine for reloading purposes. 45acp is the fad now. Everything comes full circle! I wouldn't pass up a good deal on a used 40!
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January 28, 2013, 10:20 AM | #52 |
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not me either
I am actually looking to trade my 9mm for 40- simply because I shot my SR40C better than all my pistols. No need to keep those which I don't shoot/ use anyway.
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January 28, 2013, 10:49 AM | #53 |
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If you argue on the basis on an anecdote, typing it in bold, doesn't make it a universal law of physics - even from Mas.
It's been studied intensively and modern 9s aren't that different from 40s and 45s. Everyone should take research design in college or they should teach it in high school. I was an expert on a case where a big guy had a paring knife stuck in his chest and he dropped stone cold dead almost instantly - carry a paring knife.
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January 28, 2013, 11:02 AM | #54 |
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Don't know why or if people are dumping their .40 S&W pistols, but I recently bought a used Ruger P944 so I would have a .40 S&W to go with my other calibers.
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January 28, 2013, 11:03 AM | #55 |
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Only issue I see as to the possibility of 40 S&W being plentiful on the used gun market is price of ammo. JMO if you are shooting + P 9 mm you are so close to 40 S&W barely a difference in recoil.
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January 28, 2013, 12:38 PM | #57 |
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The 40 S&W is probably the most popular caliber right now. I see them more than any other gun so I'm not surprised you're seeing so many being traded in. It's just the law of averages those things are everywhere.
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January 28, 2013, 02:14 PM | #59 |
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.40 offers nothing to me as I prefer .45 ACP and 9mm over it. I also favor the 10mm, so .40 just doesn't interest me.
But....... Lower the fodder price of .40 to 9mm levels and I'll need some new guns to go with the new caliber.
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January 28, 2013, 03:38 PM | #63 |
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Meh... Ever maybe consider Massad Ayoob might know a few things more than yourself?? Massad might just be one of the top experts alive today on the subject. He may have had more than one antidotal incident to give his opinion. Drink your coolaid and shoot what you want, it's your butt.
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I don't know, carjacker has a gun and I'm sitting at a stop light, someone jacks my truck with my girlfriend in it as I'm walking out of the gas station, the possibilities are endless.
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January 28, 2013, 04:54 PM | #66 |
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Like SPEMack, I'll go ahead and take what advantages I can get. Carjackings happen. Criminal activity happens when you don't expect it.
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January 28, 2013, 05:20 PM | #67 |
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40/9/10mm/38 Super
I've owned and shot all of the above calibers as well as 45ACP and 45 Colt among others.I cannot shoot well with the 40 and I don't know why-not in a Glock nor an HK.I did halfway decent with an XD,but not enough to buy one.I can shoot a lot better with the 10mm in a Glock 20SF.I like the 9mm because I have a couple of BHP's and I really like that platform a whole lot.the Hornady Critical defense ammo has improved the 9mm a lot and I also have some hot Georgia Arms 124 gr Gold Dot.The 38 Super is a little limited by what is commercially available but Corbon makes a very good defensive round and Armscor makes some very affordable practice ammo.
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Windscreen? How about if you have to shoot out the tyres or engage a target in the boot!?
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January 28, 2013, 05:55 PM | #70 |
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Antitodal? I guess if you drink some Kool-Aid you might need an antidote.
Sigh. Appeals to authority - not evidence. And Mas wasn't saying that other rounds aren't efficacious. I do know him, by the way.
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January 28, 2013, 06:14 PM | #71 |
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From just shopping around lately it does seem like there are more .40 guns available on the shelf.
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I think some people get a .40 because they think a .45 is too big, or too big for them, or a .45 requires more expensive ammo. Several friends have bought .40's after having a 9mm and wanting something bigger. And, as stated, lots of police are on the .40 bandwagon. I grew up in the days when there were only 9's and .45's, for the most part, for semi-autos. I later bought some 10mm's, and enjoy them along with the 9's and .45's. The .40 always seemed like an answer to a problem that didn't exist, although there ARE now some fine compact guns in .40 that DO fill the gap for a reasonably compact auto with just a LITTLE more punch than a 9, and less buk than a .45 compact. Maybe the "fad" is dying a bit, and those that felt a .45 was too big are replacing their .40's with bigger guns.
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January 28, 2013, 07:29 PM | #73 |
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^ Some would ask why the 45 is still around with the advent of the 40. Similar ballistics offered in smaller platforms with higher capacity.
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January 28, 2013, 07:35 PM | #74 |
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One answer would be pressure, which affects blast, reloading tolerances, and other things; another would be that some people prefer larger platforms due to hand size and shape, and similar recoil in a gun that does not fit as well may result in higher perceived recoil; another is that boring more metal out of a 9mm platform means some compact .40 designs push metallurgical limits closer than people may like.
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