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Old September 29, 2018, 07:37 PM   #26
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I have had about every quality 22 revolver made, except Korth and other high
end imports. When smoke clears it's always the S&W K22. I have 3, one pre 17
and two 17s. Newest one is one I originally got NIB in 1964. I got a couple m18s
and a m34 too. I had the whole line up of Colts too. Diamond back was the best
of the lot but k22 would out shoot in in my paws. I have had the Rugers too. I
still have a couple 3 screw Single-6s. They are accurate but not to compare with
match accuracy of K22. I find them better than SP 101s for accuracy. I don't do
stainless models but recently had a couple 617-6s, 10shot 4" that were very
nice shooters. Target accuracy= S&W, Hunting & plinking =Ruger, in new model
revolvers. I don't do Taurus or Rossie either but have had them on trade and
they are about the same as Charter Arms revolvers, 2nd class.
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Old October 2, 2018, 06:48 PM   #27
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I shot a lot of silhouette in the past. The Rams are set at 100 yards but the tough target for most folks is the Turkey at 75 yards. Back then, here is what shot the best and won the most.

1. Freedom Arms (That is easy, nothing shot better)
2. Dan Wesson: Very accurate, much less than Freedom Arms, and a plus was the interchangeable barrels
3. Ruger Single Six: A 9.5" barrel model was available and it shot good for the money
4. Smith & Wesson 17: They seemed to shoot fine but just wasn't a lot of them around. They were too expensive for a beginner gun, you could get a Dan Wesson for less that shot at least as well, and if you had the money you would move up to the Freedom Arms.

I started small bore revolver with a 9.5" Ruger. It was the convertible 22/22 mag. Still have it and it will group about 1.5" @ 50 yards with SK Std +. When I got more money I bought a Dan Wesson (8") and it has been the go to 22 revolver ever since. YMMV
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Old October 2, 2018, 09:08 PM   #28
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I have a SW Model 18-2 in 4" and it has really surprised me at how accurate it is. Shooting it with the regular sights, I was getting groups at 25 yards that shocked me, so I used one of the no drill scope mounts to put a red dot tube on it just to see how accurate it is. My setup looked similar to AzShooter except my red dot was a Simmons Tube Style. Not the highest quality but a pretty darn good sight. Once I got it dialed in, groups like posted above were pretty easy and the real fun came when we started shooting the 6" round plate at 75 yards. The bullet would hardly move the plate but it was a hoot. Now it's got me looking for a 617 with a 6 or 8 3/8" barrel.
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Old October 2, 2018, 10:59 PM   #29
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just bought a S&W k22 M17-3 will let you know
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Old October 3, 2018, 05:33 PM   #30
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One cannot say that "this model" or "that model" is the "most accurate". Each gun is an entity unto itself. I've seen Model 17's that were not accurate, which I define as sub 2" at 25 yards off sandbags.

That said, your odds of getting a "good one" are higher with some brands over others. But there is always the outlier. The single most accurate .22 I've ever shot was a S&W 22a. Go figure. $250 gun. Beats my High Standard 10-X that must be named that because it's 10X as expensive.

The other question is the shooter. You have to shoot a lot, and compare gun X to your average performance with gun Y and gun Z. This is a long term project. I've been working on it for 40 years and I'm still trying to figure it out.
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Old October 3, 2018, 09:39 PM   #31
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I watched a guy with a S&W m17 with a Leupold scope sit at bench, sandbagged
and bust clays at 100yds every shot. Was 6" barrel and the model with full under
lug. I don't do optics on my handguns but at 100yds I can hit 10" gong from 2
hand just about every shot. Requires hold over because I'm sighted for 50' with
two and 36' the other. That's how far I can shoot in my basement. Many hundred
of rounds fired down there. I've owned several 17s other than 3 I presently own.
I haven't got a bad one yet. I was 14 when I first got a m17 NIB on a trade. I
had no intention of shooting it. I had a Single-6 and had a mental block against
DA revolvers, because of H&Rs and IJs. My Ruger S-6 was a target gun compared to them. A buddy of mine hacked on me to shoot it. I did and that 17
is still my main serious 22. Many guys who were use to low end 22 revolvers
were amazed at 17s accuracy. There are, were, many excellent 22s on the market back then. Especially autos but the m17 is one of those guns that seems
to be a easy gun for the average guy to shoot well. Anyone who can shoot a SA
well should do a lot better with a 17.
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Old October 3, 2018, 11:43 PM   #32
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If you might be interested is something a bit different----For a while I had a
H&R 999 Sportsman 1st model that was a darned good shooter. Not as good
as my K-22, but I do regret letting it get away from me.
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Old October 9, 2018, 01:56 AM   #33
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Is there any major differences between S&W 17-2 and 17-3?

Both in mint condition..
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Old October 24, 2018, 05:24 AM   #34
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As said the K22, then choose the 8 3/8 inch barrel. Wide trigger, wide, hammer, target sight. Have used mine for 40 years in bullseye shooting. For something easy to lug around, the model 18 is a good choice. Mine has dispatched a lot of critters.
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Old October 24, 2018, 09:01 AM   #35
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Is there any major differences between S&W 17-2 and 17-3?
Not really.

According to the Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson:

Model 17 no dash (1957) - Transition to model names from the old K-22
1958 - introduce 8 3/8" barrel
17-1 (1959) Change extractor rod thread, right hand to left hand.
17-2 (1961) Delete trigger guard screw, change cylinder stop.
17-3 (1967) Relocation of rear sight leaf screw.
17-4 (1977) Change to move gas ring from yoke to cylinder.
(1982) Eliminate pinned barrel.
(1986) Introduce 4" heavy barrel with serrated ramp on ramp base in place of Model 18.
17-5 (1988) New yoke retention system/radius stud package.
(1989) Model discontinued for Model 17-6, full lug version.
17-6 (1990) Full lug barrel with new yoke retention system.
Some early 17-6 reported without full lug barrel.
(1993) discontinue 8 3/8" barrel.
17-7 (1994) Drill and tap frame, change rear sight leaf, change extractor.
1996 Model 17-7 discontinued for introduction of 10 shot alloy cylinder version, Model 17-8.
1996 Begin shipments in foam filled plastic boxes.
1997 Ship with Master trigger lock, Change to MIM trigger.
17-8 (2001) Model 17-8 Heritage Series 6 shot with CNC new frame design.
17-9 (2009) Model 17-9 available as part of the Classic series introduction with internal lock, 6 shot cylinder with square butt frame, Patridge front sight with 6 inch barrel and wooden grips.
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Old October 24, 2018, 09:20 AM   #36
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My Ruger SA "Hunter" has decent accuracy. My first Gen "Hunter" came with both 22lr and 22WMR cylinders. I like the thin bladed gold dot front sight and the V-notch rear --- Though I put a Nikon 3x pistol scope on top.
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Old October 25, 2018, 02:26 PM   #37
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My best group with a revolver is 0.517" for five shots at 50 yards. This was from sandbags with a Ruger Single Six Hunter, a Leupold 4x and CCI SV. That was an exceptional group. But typical groups with this gun at 50 yards are around 1.5". I've found S&W 617s to be exceptionally accurate too. But I've never scoped one to really test it. The ironic thing is people will tell you a single six is less accurate with 22 LR ammo (vs 22 mag). I have not found that to be the case.
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Old October 28, 2018, 10:21 PM   #38
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Does anyone have any knowledge about Dan Wesson’s 22.lr revolvers?
Accuracy, reliability etc... compared to m17 or 617 for example
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Old October 30, 2018, 03:21 AM   #39
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The only two I've ever owned................A Ruger single six I got in 1969 (and like a fool sold)......Smith and Wesson 617 I got about 1990 or so.
Either one with the right ammo would do under 2", with the 617 got a one inch group.

*This bench rested at 25 yards...not free hand as I'm damn well not that good!
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Old October 30, 2018, 07:35 AM   #40
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All of my K22s are very accurate more so than I am.
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Old October 30, 2018, 05:23 PM   #41
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What about Colt’s like New frontier or Trooper?
I like the New Frontier, but it may have the same issue you are concerned about with the bore diameter. Personally, I don't think it matters much.

The Colt Trooper Mark III is a tank and a very good DA 22 revolver. The old Troopers are nice too and typically accurate. I have a couple I might let go.

The S&W Model 17 or the current 617 are also known for their accuracy. Got a couple of the 17's and an 18.

The Colt Diamondback is a fine 22 revolver also. My first one (4") was reasonably accurate. Had a 6" but I never really took to it like the 4". They are expensive these days.

Colt Officers Model revolvers are very good too and known for their accuracy.
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Old November 1, 2018, 07:40 PM   #42
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One cannot say that "this model" or "that model" is the "most accurate".
Sure you can. It's the Freedom Arms model 252. Hands down, without question. Second place goes to the Freedom Arms model 97. No Smith & Wesson, Colt or Ruger comes close.
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Old November 2, 2018, 07:06 AM   #43
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Vaqueros are all centerfire revolvers. None of them are chambered for 22 Long Rifle.
While that statement is true, Ruger did make a fixed sight Single-Six, which is along the same lines as a Vaguero.



This is one of the 50 anniversary Single-Six's. I believe they did offer it in a standard version for at least a while. The main reason for bringing it up is to sort of dispute the notion that the fact that is also has a 22 Magnum cylinder hurts the accuracy. There just isn't that much difference. Maybe in theory, but not in the real world. Even with it's hog trough fixed sights, this one is plenty "accurate enough" for soda cans, or pine cones. I've even managed to scare a squirrel or two.

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Does anyone have any knowledge about Dan Wesson’s 22.lr revolvers?
Accuracy, reliability etc... compared to m17 or 617 for example
I've owned three or four Dan Wesson 22's over the years. They shoot like laser beams, and are as reliable as an anvil.

The only down side to them is they are HEAVY. They're made on the same frame as the 357's, which is closer to a Smith and Wesson L than it is to a K frame. The much smaller hole in the barrel and cylinder leave a lot of weight. Not a problem if you're just shooting at the range, but in the field, it's a LOT.

I've settled on the Smith and Wesson K-22, Combat Masterpiece as my standard for 22's. It doesn't get shot much anymore. I find shooting 22's at the range to be about like watching paint dry, and I don't get out into the field much anymore, but this one, from 1953, stays here.



Another that is seldom seen, that I've got some experience with is the old Taurus Model 96. A more or less copy of Smith and Wesson's Model 17, it's a sleeper. The one I had shot very well. I should have kept it.
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Old November 10, 2018, 10:49 AM   #44
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Old November 11, 2018, 06:39 AM   #45
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Old November 11, 2018, 04:47 PM   #46
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I am looking for a .22 revolver that is accurate enough.
I like the looks and feel of a ruger single six, but heard stories about it’s WMR bore size and its effects on accuracy with .22 long rife.
Don't worry about the bore supposedly made for a 22 mag and and made at .224 ID. I have never measured a 22LR bullet that measured .223. Everyone I have measured has been between .224 up to .226. More than enough to fill the bore. Plus the soft lead 22 bullets bump up to fit the the bore and chamber anyway. Every Ruger single action I have owned and shot has been accurate.

I did once take a Single Six and my box of assorted 22 ammo and shoot a couple of cylinders of each load. It was a real eye opener about how much variation in grouping you will get with different brands of ammo. Testing your gun is far more important than worrying about a .001 difference in bore size.

I shot my old S&W model 34 a few weeks ago for the first time in many years. I couldn't believe how accurate that little pistol was. Mine is one of the older Flat Latch versions I bought 2 decades ago for $250 OTD from a pawn shop. What a great field and trail gun.
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Old November 12, 2018, 07:45 PM   #47
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I've never owned a K-22 Masterpiece but thinking seriously about saving up some money and buying one after reading this thread. Have shot a lot of squirrels at respectable ranges with my 6" Ruger single -six with the LR cylinder so I think it is accurate enough for almost any use plus it has the mag cylinder. The most accurate 22LR revolver I have ever had the pleasure of shooting was an H&R with a 12 inch barrel belonging to a land surveyor I worked with during my BLM Cadastral Survey days back in the late 70s-early 80s. We took a lot of small game in MI and MO with those 2 revolvers.
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Old November 13, 2018, 02:14 PM   #48
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I have found the accuracy of the gun is directly proportional to the skills of the trigger puller.
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Old November 14, 2018, 09:28 AM   #49
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I have found the accuracy of the gun is directly proportional to the skills of the trigger puller.


And this is why i want the most accurate gun as i can afford.

When the bullet misses the target, i know for sure that it is not gun’s fault, but mine.
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Old November 14, 2018, 09:59 AM   #50
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Another vote for Model 17, aka .22 Masterpiece, my 17-4 is very accurate and wasn't shot much when I bought it a flea market
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