CCW in Illinois

Wallyl · July 10, 2013, 11:14 AM

I should be jubilant...as we now have CCW in Illinois. However I have to ask myself...first of all we had that right all along...the 2nd amendment.....something about the right to bear arms not being infringed....so how was it possible that elected officials take an oath to abide by the constitution and then pass laws that violate it? Isn't that criminal in itself? Perhaps they should be incarcerated for this egregious violation and should lose their pensions? If it were up to me, I'd exile them to Afghanistan or Somalia.

The new law regulates who has the legal right for CCW here....but the 2nd amendment clearly states that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed..what is up with that? Why should an honorable, law abiding citizen have to jump through hoops to get permission for CCW...this is a right as per the 2nd amendment isn't it? Can someone straighten me out here? Pay $150 and take a 16 hour course...? Why is the 2nd amendment states I already have that right....

I am very confused---I thought this was a free country..don't we have the right to protect & defend ourselves...or again, is this only so where permitted by law? Where is the ACLU when we really need them?

Mike38 · July 10, 2013, 11:33 AM

I’d say, remember this come Election Day, but we are outnumbered. The majority of the voting public must be okay with what is going on in Washington DC and their state capitol, otherwise things would change.

Wallyl · July 10, 2013, 11:48 AM

I do so with each and every one, but seldom do the candidates that I vote for get elected. I suppose I need to vote, like so many others, with my feet..and just leave the state. But will I miss the taxes, tollways, & corrupt politicians?

Brian Pfleuger · July 10, 2013, 11:51 AM

The legal issues are already under discussion in this thread.

It's obviously not as simple as "The 2A says..." or the whole thing would have been over 225 years ago.

**Spats McGee** · July 10, 2013, 11:51 AM

Concealed Carry Illinois is already under discussion.

July 10, 2013, 11:14 AM	#1
Wallyl Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2011 Posts: 255	CCW in Illinois I should be jubilant...as we now have CCW in Illinois. However I have to ask myself...first of all we had that right all along...the 2nd amendment.....something about the right to bear arms not being infringed....so how was it possible that elected officials take an oath to abide by the constitution and then pass laws that violate it? Isn't that criminal in itself? Perhaps they should be incarcerated for this egregious violation and should lose their pensions? If it were up to me, I'd exile them to Afghanistan or Somalia. The new law regulates who has the legal right for CCW here....but the 2nd amendment clearly states that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed..what is up with that? Why should an honorable, law abiding citizen have to jump through hoops to get permission for CCW...this is a right as per the 2nd amendment isn't it? Can someone straighten me out here? Pay $150 and take a 16 hour course...? Why is the 2nd amendment states I already have that right.... I am very confused---I thought this was a free country..don't we have the right to protect & defend ourselves...or again, is this only so where permitted by law? Where is the ACLU when we really need them?

July 10, 2013, 11:51 AM	#4
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	The legal issues are already under discussion in this thread. It's obviously not as simple as "The 2A says..." or the whole thing would have been over 225 years ago. __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley

July 10, 2013, 11:51 AM	#5
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	Concealed Carry Illinois is already under discussion. __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

July 10, 2013, 11:33 AM	#2
Mike38 Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2009 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 2,710	I’d say, remember this come Election Day, but we are outnumbered. The majority of the voting public must be okay with what is going on in Washington DC and their state capitol, otherwise things would change.

July 10, 2013, 11:48 AM	#3
Wallyl Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2011 Posts: 255	I do so with each and every one, but seldom do the candidates that I vote for get elected. I suppose I need to vote, like so many others, with my feet..and just leave the state. But will I miss the taxes, tollways, & corrupt politicians?