Kel-Tec announces a KSG in .410.

Dfariswheel · January 24, 2023, 06:35 PM

Kel-Tec is releasing a new double magazine KSG in .410.
It looks like a KS7 model only with two magazines.

https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/shotguns/ksg410/

JasoninSD · January 24, 2023, 11:34 PM

I saw that at SHOT Show last week and it is cute. Had a retail price of $500. It was much more slim than the 12 ga version. By my estimation, it is not really practical....but a lot of guns are purchased with no particular practicality.

stuckinthe60s · January 25, 2023, 09:12 AM

classic snake oil!

Dfariswheel · January 25, 2023, 05:24 PM

Mossberg made a lot of money selling .410 home defense guns.
For certain Kel-Tec has done a market study that indicated a good market, or they wouldn't have made it.

MTT TL · January 25, 2023, 09:27 PM

They should have made it with quad magazines and a 50 round capacity. You could load one magazine with slugs, one with buck shot, one with bird shot and one with naval flares.

This way you could truly be ready for anything a .410 can handle.

ballardw · January 25, 2023, 11:13 PM

At least as practical as the .410 lever actions with more ammo.

stinkeypete · January 26, 2023, 02:25 AM

What's the cast on that stock? It looks neutral to me!

The Happy kaboomer · January 27, 2023, 11:02 AM

keltec has never made a firearm that I would buy. Wouldn't want to be given one either.

Dfariswheel · January 27, 2023, 11:18 PM

Kel-Tec has long had a reputation for marketing very innovative designs that have quality problems.
They appear to be changing that with their new bullpup rifles and shotguns.

The KS7 is especially good quality without the problems of the KSG double magazine complexity.
The KS7 and KSG are versions of the John Browning Ithaca Model 37, which is one of the best of the old pre-war "tank" shotgun designs.

TruthTellers · January 29, 2023, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dfariswheel

Mossberg made a lot of money selling .410 home defense guns.
For certain Kel-Tec has done a market study that indicated a good market, or they wouldn't have made it.

Kel Tec doesn't listen to popular misconceptions that have been repeated ad naseum for so long they've become truth. That's why they still make a .32 pistols and no longer a .380, that's why they did a bullpup shotgun when every FUDD is clinging to his traditional bird gun with wood stocks and 3 rd tubes.

3 inch .410's are overlooked and while they're not going to throw as much shot as 20 or 28 gauge, they're not incapable. The clear benefit for .410 is in a home defense role with its limited recoil and decent effect on target. 5 000 buck pellets do a darn good job and the lightweight bullpup design is going to make quick shooting a breeze.

And it looks as tho the price is going to be around $350. Given the poor reviews I see of the Mossberg .410 pumps, I would pick a Kel Tec .410 in a heartbeat over anythign else.

January 24, 2023, 06:35 PM	#1
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	Kel-Tec announces a KSG in .410. Kel-Tec is releasing a new double magazine KSG in .410. It looks like a KS7 model only with two magazines. https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/shotguns/ksg410/

January 25, 2023, 09:12 AM	#3
stuckinthe60s Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2017 Location: Va., Ct., Mo.. Posts: 877	classic snake oil! __________________ Retired Military Aviation Former Member Navy Shooting Team Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner

January 25, 2023, 09:27 PM	#5
MTT TL Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2009 Location: Quadling Country Posts: 2,780	They should have made it with quad magazines and a 50 round capacity. You could load one magazine with slugs, one with buck shot, one with bird shot and one with naval flares. This way you could truly be ready for anything a .410 can handle. __________________ Thus a man should endeavor to reach this high place of courage with all his heart, and, so trying, never be backward in war.

January 25, 2023, 11:13 PM	#6
ballardw Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 1,411	At least as practical as the .410 lever actions with more ammo. __________________ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ All data is flawed, some just less so.

January 26, 2023, 02:25 AM	#7
stinkeypete Senior Member Join Date: July 22, 2010 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 1,293	What's the cast on that stock? It looks neutral to me! __________________ My book "The Pheasant Hunter's Action Adventure Cookbook" is now on Amazon. Tall tales, hunting tips, butchering from bird to the freezer, and recipes.

January 24, 2023, 11:34 PM	#2
JasoninSD Member Join Date: March 21, 2006 Posts: 86	I saw that at SHOT Show last week and it is cute. Had a retail price of $500. It was much more slim than the 12 ga version. By my estimation, it is not really practical....but a lot of guns are purchased with no particular practicality.

January 25, 2023, 05:24 PM	#4
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	Mossberg made a lot of money selling .410 home defense guns. For certain Kel-Tec has done a market study that indicated a good market, or they wouldn't have made it.

January 27, 2023, 11:02 AM	#8
The Happy kaboomer Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2009 Posts: 226	keltec has never made a firearm that I would buy. Wouldn't want to be given one either.

January 27, 2023, 11:18 PM	#9
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	Kel-Tec has long had a reputation for marketing very innovative designs that have quality problems. They appear to be changing that with their new bullpup rifles and shotguns. The KS7 is especially good quality without the problems of the KSG double magazine complexity. The KS7 and KSG are versions of the John Browning Ithaca Model 37, which is one of the best of the old pre-war "tank" shotgun designs.