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Old July 12, 2018, 08:44 AM   #1
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What is my history?

Hello from Germany. I'm an old retired Marine and shoot at the local range. An old German gent who I know asked me to see what I could find out about his old rifle (which he still shoots) He describes it as follows: Saxonian Kingdom, Model 1850, cal. 14,64, Mfg Malherbe in Liege (Luettich). In 1862 it was sold to the US Union Army. It has the following mark: 3/194. If anybody can direct me to a good source of info I'd be appreciative. I'd love to tell him to which unit it was sent and when, and in what battles it probably fought. I also have another five photos of the rifle. Thanks very much and Semper Fi, CWO-3 Bill Black, USMC (Ret).
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Old July 12, 2018, 10:33 AM   #2
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It appears to be somewhat of a copy of the French 1859. I can find info that
would suggest it was made by a company in Belgium called Drisket and Waroux.
They made a LOT of different items, and did indeed sell to the Union (and probably
the Confederacy) during the civil war. You might check the bottom of the barrel--
apparently that is a place the Drisket and Waroux might be found.
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Old July 13, 2018, 01:21 PM   #3
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Found the right gun, it was a 1851 Saxon model, never actually used by the Saxons but sold straight from Belgium. Nice description here, can't tell from the pictures how original it is.
This one has an attribution to the battle of Shiloh.
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Old July 13, 2018, 07:13 PM   #4
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Noted it was sold to the Union Army? Or is that not US Union?
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Old July 14, 2018, 08:41 AM   #5
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Suggest you post in the N-SSA forum. There are experts on Civil War firearms there.

I know that during the Civil War, the Union bought virtually everything it could even if it didn't need it. The idea was to grab them up and thereby deny arms to the Confederacy.
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