Sako info

Runthe9 · September 11, 2018, 07:16 AM

Hoping someone can tell me what model Sako I have. Posting pics of all markings I can find. Bolt 30-06

Don Fischer · September 11, 2018, 10:05 AM

The photo's are normally to big and you have to scowl all over to see them. Your's are a bit to small and I can't see them!

Runthe9 · September 11, 2018, 10:25 AM

Do you have a suggestion of how better to post pics

RC20 · September 11, 2018, 03:54 PM

Maybe just put the markings in text.

ripnbst · September 13, 2018, 03:13 PM

I don't see any pics posted at all

Rifletom · September 13, 2018, 05:39 PM

Me either.

USP45T · September 15, 2018, 07:12 AM

Sako manuals.

https://www.sako.fi/en-us/sako-old-models

RC20 · September 15, 2018, 03:11 PM

Just get the danged data off the side of the barrel and the import marking under it and an SN and we can tell. Don't need no pictures.

All them itty bitty stamps are just mfg and cert stuff to prove its been proofed per the European specs.

Runthe9 · September 18, 2018, 02:51 AM

I see an X stamp with a lion under it and PV stamped. Sako on the barrel below it is the serial number is 1104** with two stamps that I can’t make out next to it

Runthe9 · September 18, 2018, 03:26 AM

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ubuj706n...6QmYSA4Na?dl=0

Runthe9 · September 19, 2018, 08:59 AM

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ubuj706n...6QmYSA4Na?dl=0

RC20 · September 19, 2018, 09:36 PM

These are complicated guns as they were sourced as fully build rifles, barrel actions (someone put in a stock) and separate barrels and receivers and not necessarily did the receiver get a Sako barrel put on it.

A few came into the US as bought in Europe.

The area I would need to see is on the left side under the front scope mount.

There may be something under the front of the barrel label wise. With your SN there should be though Sako can be odd.

Possibly on the left side in the front scope mount area

All those little hashes and stamps are just proofing and inspection stuff that are not documented to any era or gun in particular.

the 110/28 would need a picture of what part of the gun its on to know if its got relevancy. It should have something like AIII stamped in it, AIV, unlikely L61R and some reference to Bofers steel.

You can PM me and I will get you my email if you want to send pictures

Runthe9 · September 20, 2018, 04:10 AM

Rc20 thanks I will send you more detailed pics as far as that 110428 with sako stamped above it that is stamped on the barrel left side.

Runthe9 · September 20, 2018, 06:12 AM

Thank you RC20. I will reach out with more detailed pics. As far as the 110428 with the sako stamp above it that is on the left side of barrel. I thought to be the serial number. Thanks again hopefully speak soon

RC20 · September 20, 2018, 11:43 AM

Most curious. Most interesting.

SN for legal purposes is on the receiver.

For a Sako it should read something like L61R (possibly AIII of AIV) and be on the left side of the receiver between the scope mounts.

A built up gun might put it on the barrel. Will do a bit of sleuthing on that.

Your receiver from what I can tell is Sako.

A good picture of the bolt would clarify era.

Possibly Garcia under the front barrel but I suspect not with this rifle.

T. O'Heir · September 20, 2018, 11:58 AM

Proof marks don't tell you anything about the model number. Berretta USA might be able to tell you by the serial number.
Or rummage around here. Dunno if the "manufacturing year of my old Sako rifle" will help or not.
https://www.sako.fi/support/faq

Jim Watson · September 20, 2018, 11:59 AM

Those are Belgian proof marks.
The action is a commercial '98 Mauser, almost certainly procured from FN by Sako before they tooled up for the long L61 receiver.

RC20 · September 20, 2018, 12:46 PM

Jim,

I took as close a look as I could and it seems clear its not a Sako action. It does resemble a Mauser but I am blowing it up a lot.

Its missing the release button and looks like a lever more like a Model of 1917 (clearly not that of course even Sportarised one)

Certainly no Sako detail on the left side where it should be, good spot.

That puts it pre 1962?

T: O Hair: The only info is the old records and those are spotty. You can make some guesses on Sako but its ball park.

This does not look like a made Sako, assembled maybe. If I had to guess it looks like Garcia or latter but can 't see the details I need.

RC20 · September 20, 2018, 01:01 PM

Runthe9:

As noted above, I think Jim nailed it. Kudos for him, not one I was familiar with.

Sako Barrel installed on a Mauser action.

Look at this link and blow up the picture at the barrel receiver area

https://www.gunsamerica.com/94892112...er-in-30-0.htm

While not a lot this is some more information on the history of that combo

https://www.chuckhawks.com/sako_high-power_rifle.htm

Runthe9 · September 21, 2018, 04:02 AM

How do you guys find this stuff. That’s so great. Thank you for following up and helping out. Much appreciated.

RC20 · September 21, 2018, 12:17 PM

JW looks to know the proof marks on Belgium really well.

I missed the receiver though when blown up I could see what he was talking about in it being a Mauser.

Sometimes to run a search all you need is a clue. With what JW supplied I ran one on a Mauser Sako and got a number of hits and the one link was the solid one.

Chuck Hawks also popped up and that gave some timeline and history. That was fun and interesting.

Often these things are a collaboration where more than one person contributes a part.

In my case I am more the Vixen and Finnbear era knowledge as that was my interest in the Family 270 Finnbear.

JW clearly had a link into the Belgium end.

September 11, 2018, 07:16 AM	#1
Runthe9 Junior Member Join Date: September 10, 2018 Posts: 9	Sako info Hoping someone can tell me what model Sako I have. Posting pics of all markings I can find. Bolt 30-06

September 11, 2018, 10:25 AM	#3
Runthe9 Junior Member Join Date: September 10, 2018 Posts: 9	Do you have a suggestion of how better to post pics Last edited by Runthe9; September 11, 2018 at 10:32 AM.

September 11, 2018, 03:54 PM	#4
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	Maybe just put the markings in text. __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not

September 15, 2018, 03:11 PM	#8
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	Just get the danged data off the side of the barrel and the import marking under it and an SN and we can tell. Don't need no pictures. All them itty bitty stamps are just mfg and cert stuff to prove its been proofed per the European specs. __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not

September 18, 2018, 03:26 AM	#10
Runthe9 Junior Member Join Date: September 10, 2018 Posts: 9	Pics https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ubuj706n...6QmYSA4Na?dl=0

September 11, 2018, 10:05 AM	#2
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	The photo's are normally to big and you have to scowl all over to see them. Your's are a bit to small and I can't see them!

September 13, 2018, 03:13 PM	#5
ripnbst Senior Member Join Date: November 24, 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 1,552	I don't see any pics posted at all

September 13, 2018, 05:39 PM	#6
Rifletom Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2011 Location: So-Cal Posts: 786	Me either.

September 15, 2018, 07:12 AM	#7
USP45T Junior Member Join Date: October 28, 2002 Posts: 12	Sako manuals. https://www.sako.fi/en-us/sako-old-models

September 18, 2018, 02:51 AM	#9
Runthe9 Junior Member Join Date: September 10, 2018 Posts: 9	I see an X stamp with a lion under it and PV stamped. Sako on the barrel below it is the serial number is 1104** with two stamps that I can’t make out next to it

September 19, 2018, 08:59 AM	#11
Runthe9 Junior Member Join Date: September 10, 2018 Posts: 9	https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ubuj706n...6QmYSA4Na?dl=0

September 19, 2018, 09:36 PM	#12
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	These are complicated guns as they were sourced as fully build rifles, barrel actions (someone put in a stock) and separate barrels and receivers and not necessarily did the receiver get a Sako barrel put on it. A few came into the US as bought in Europe. The area I would need to see is on the left side under the front scope mount. There may be something under the front of the barrel label wise. With your SN there should be though Sako can be odd. Possibly on the left side in the front scope mount area All those little hashes and stamps are just proofing and inspection stuff that are not documented to any era or gun in particular. the 110/28 would need a picture of what part of the gun its on to know if its got relevancy. It should have something like AIII stamped in it, AIV, unlikely L61R and some reference to Bofers steel. You can PM me and I will get you my email if you want to send pictures __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not Last edited by RC20; September 19, 2018 at 09:55 PM.

September 20, 2018, 04:10 AM	#13
Runthe9 Junior Member Join Date: September 10, 2018 Posts: 9	Rc20 thanks I will send you more detailed pics as far as that 110428 with sako stamped above it that is stamped on the barrel left side.

September 20, 2018, 06:12 AM	#14
Runthe9 Junior Member Join Date: September 10, 2018 Posts: 9	Thank you RC20. I will reach out with more detailed pics. As far as the 110428 with the sako stamp above it that is on the left side of barrel. I thought to be the serial number. Thanks again hopefully speak soon

September 20, 2018, 11:43 AM	#15
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	Most curious. Most interesting. SN for legal purposes is on the receiver. For a Sako it should read something like L61R (possibly AIII of AIV) and be on the left side of the receiver between the scope mounts. A built up gun might put it on the barrel. Will do a bit of sleuthing on that. Your receiver from what I can tell is Sako. A good picture of the bolt would clarify era. Possibly Garcia under the front barrel but I suspect not with this rifle. __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not

September 20, 2018, 11:58 AM	#16
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Proof marks don't tell you anything about the model number. Berretta USA might be able to tell you by the serial number. Or rummage around here. Dunno if the "manufacturing year of my old Sako rifle" will help or not. https://www.sako.fi/support/faq __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

September 20, 2018, 11:59 AM	#17
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,537	Those are Belgian proof marks. The action is a commercial '98 Mauser, almost certainly procured from FN by Sako before they tooled up for the long L61 receiver.

September 20, 2018, 12:46 PM	#18
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	Jim, I took as close a look as I could and it seems clear its not a Sako action. It does resemble a Mauser but I am blowing it up a lot. Its missing the release button and looks like a lever more like a Model of 1917 (clearly not that of course even Sportarised one) Certainly no Sako detail on the left side where it should be, good spot. That puts it pre 1962? T: O Hair: The only info is the old records and those are spotty. You can make some guesses on Sako but its ball park. This does not look like a made Sako, assembled maybe. If I had to guess it looks like Garcia or latter but can 't see the details I need. __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not Last edited by RC20; September 20, 2018 at 12:59 PM.

September 20, 2018, 01:01 PM	#19
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	Runthe9: As noted above, I think Jim nailed it. Kudos for him, not one I was familiar with. Sako Barrel installed on a Mauser action. Look at this link and blow up the picture at the barrel receiver area https://www.gunsamerica.com/94892112...er-in-30-0.htm While not a lot this is some more information on the history of that combo https://www.chuckhawks.com/sako_high-power_rifle.htm __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not Last edited by RC20; September 20, 2018 at 01:18 PM.

September 21, 2018, 04:02 AM	#20
Runthe9 Junior Member Join Date: September 10, 2018 Posts: 9	How do you guys find this stuff. That’s so great. Thank you for following up and helping out. Much appreciated.

September 21, 2018, 12:17 PM	#21
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	JW looks to know the proof marks on Belgium really well. I missed the receiver though when blown up I could see what he was talking about in it being a Mauser. Sometimes to run a search all you need is a clue. With what JW supplied I ran one on a Mauser Sako and got a number of hits and the one link was the solid one. Chuck Hawks also popped up and that gave some timeline and history. That was fun and interesting. Often these things are a collaboration where more than one person contributes a part. In my case I am more the Vixen and Finnbear era knowledge as that was my interest in the Family 270 Finnbear. JW clearly had a link into the Belgium end. __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not